Colin played in defence yesterday in junk time, and was ok but the game was already over. I'm thinking why not play him as a tagger? He is hard enough, play him in a role like Josh Carr, defensive and make him niggle the opponent. If he got on top of his opponent he could hurt the opposition with his skills? Any thoughts?

Doesn't have the engine.

Doesn't have the attitude.

Definitely our best trade bait.

All puff and promise with nothing to show for it.

Tackles too ferociously, would give away too many frees as a pure tagger. I like Col because of the aggression. He can do most things required at this level. He has marking ability, he is not slow, he is strong, he can kick. He does not seem to be high IQ, but he's not Robinson Crusoe there in AFL ranks. If he can learn to manage his aggression and direct it at the main objective... Win the ball... Play the %'s... Team above all, he is a worthy rep in our best 22.

well he's certainly not worse than our other mids (who is better, not more valuable, better; out of brock mclean and sylvia???). not bad enough to be relegated to sandy.

Depends on your definition of better ^

Depends on your definition of better ^

better at the moment. better in terms of disposals, reliability, efficiency, etc. all the normal measures. who is better?

Brock.

Does enough to warrant a tag.

Otherwise, currently, they're as bad as each other

Brock by a mile, Sylvia has more genuine skill, but a lot less desire, dedication and application than brock.

I'd liek to see Sylvia play the sweeper roll in the center square a she can run straight at the opponents and maybe by throwing him in the guts he might actually try a bit harder.

who is better, not more valuable, better; out of brock mclean and sylvia???

Let me know when Sylvia wins us a final.

Better still, let me know when Sylvia wins us a match.

Let me know when Sylvia wins us a final.

Better still, let me know when Sylvia wins us a match.

Could become a tough small back pocket a la Mark Johnson Essendon circa 2000.

Doesn't have the engine.

^ enough said.

That said, at least if he's following a bloke around he won't look so lost.

Keep Sylvia at half back he has tried every other position and failed. He should have been tried there ages ago. I would like to see Jones play more as a tagger. I feel sorry for McLean if he was in any other team he would be a star. I can't think of a player at his age that cops the best tagger week in week out the best players in every team are a lot older if he had quality players helping him out he would be doing what Johnstone is doing at Brisbane probably better actually. He showed what he is capable of when he wasn't tagged in the first half against Geelong getting 20 disposals. Why they thought Jones would be a more damaging player than McLean is beyond me?

Sylvia >Mclean

I'd like to see him tag a player like Judd, Kerr, Ablett etc. even for just a few short spells so he can directly see how hard these guys work. to play the way they do.

sylvia < Mclean.

and that's coming from sylvinator!

i want the kid to have a break out season more than anyone, but Mclean and Jones are the only 2 good players at our club atm

Sylvia couldnt tag a pair of jeans.. he'd sook after a quarter !!

I can't think of a player at his age that cops the best tagger week in week out

Marc Murphy.

And he was still getting the pill

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And he was still getting the pill

thats arguable

I honestly thought in the early days that Col was a goer.. he now just strikes me as a Junk Time Wonder-warrior...and he's not alone .. <_<

averaged 18 touches a game

averaged 18 touches a game

is that alot?

I'd be happy with that.

Melbourne only had 2 (?) players last year that averaged more than 20 touches

*edit*

also the same as what McLean averaged, and 5 more than what Sylvia averaged (and they're both 2 years older)

Sylvia >Mclean

I don't remember Sylvia ever winning us a game of football, let alone a final.

Also don't remember him ever finishing in the top 5 in our B&F.

If you stop touching yourself for a minute, you'll see that McLean > Sylvia.

Be warned folks. Dont confuse touches ( stats) with effectiveness, not that you can other than invariably being there or watching the game. Take note of when and how touches are garnered.

We are a champion club of reent times at accumulating players...that are all promise ..little result. This can be through injury , attitude or incorrect original appraisal.