"if you could coach carlton or melbourne next year, who would you take?" jaka...... "carlton". "you think their list is better than the demons?" jaka........ "right now, yes"

interesting.............

Dont blame him! who would want to coach us.

He was watching us get flogged. His freshest memory of a bad team playing was playing out right in front of him. Your team is always going to compare unfavourably in that light, rightly or wrongly.

Throwaway comment from a boring commentator.

I would think commentators who don't see all the games every week, would probably just make a decision based on what they may have viewed that round. Carlton had a crack this week, we didn't. That may change next week.

Yep, carlton at least really had a dip.

Yep, carlton at least really had a dip.

l really have trouble understanding how they are so fragile mentally, they need a hardarse coach, ND was too soft on the leaders and Riley is a clone

Gibbs and Murphy are both going to be excellent midfielders, I'm not sure that any of our young guys are in their league.

"if you could coach carlton or melbourne next year, who would you take?" jaka...... "carlton". "you think their list is better than the demons?" jaka........ "right now, yes"

interesting.............

Yep. I heard it. Hard to believe isn't it? Or maybe as Demons supporters we are blind to the deficiencies of our list. Very little in the way of KPP's, a distinct lack of competitiveness, a lack of on field discipline and an amazing ability for senior players to make public comments about issues which should be kept in house. Our lack of on field leadership is abundantly evident. Unfortunately, Jakovich could well be right.

Mclean and Sylvia are the same quality as murphey and gibbs...

i maintain that we have 3 potential A-graders of our list, mclean, sylvia and bate.

however i shoudlnt speak to soon, because 4 years ago we had 3 potential A-graders in Green, bruce and Johnstone...all 3 are bonafied B-graders

Mclean and Sylvia are the same quality as murphey and gibbs...

i maintain that we have 3 potential A-graders of our list, mclean, sylvia and bate.

however i shoudlnt speak to soon, because 4 years ago we had 3 potential A-graders in Green, bruce and Johnstone...all 3 are bonafied B-graders

I think Sylvia can be a fine player but there is no way that he is as good as Murphy currently is or has the potential to reach.

McLean perhaps, but compare him to Murphy. Murphy has been tagged all year and he is still producing the goods, whereas McLean is struggling even though he's older.

Bate I'm not convinced he has what it takes to be an elite player, he definitely didn't show it today.

I think Sylvia can be a fine player but there is no way that he is as good as Murphy currently is or has the potential to reach.

McLean perhaps, but compare him to Murphy. Murphy has been tagged all year and he is still producing the goods, whereas McLean is struggling even though he's older.

Bate I'm not convinced he has what it takes to be an elite player, he definitely didn't show it today.

Totally agree, Jarka! You have a good grasp of where the list is at.

Yep, carlton at least really had a dip.

Yeah saw that match yesterday on TV, they certainly had a dip and almost won. They are showing a better attitude than our stupid attitude

"if you could coach carlton or melbourne next year, who would you take?" jaka...... "carlton". "you think their list is better than the demons?" jaka........ "right now, yes"

interesting.............

@ this sad point in our history, I agree with Jaka

I hope the next 5 weeks go quick, then lets get the Sheedy/McKenna revival plan into action.

Something about years with 7 involved in them that haunts the Dee's.

The entire 70's a disgrace

1987 we where teased only to have our hearts ripped out @ the end

1997 another disaster with a mid year sacking

2007 this year rivals with the most painful in our history.

Bring on 2008

I think Sylvia can be a fine player but there is no way that he is as good as Murphy currently is or has the potential to reach.

McLean perhaps, but compare him to Murphy. Murphy has been tagged all year and he is still producing the goods, whereas McLean is struggling even though he's older.

Bate I'm not convinced he has what it takes to be an elite player, he definitely didn't show it today.

Gotta disagree with you Jarka, you're only basing Gibbs on his no.1 pick status and what he achieved in lower leagues, he hasn't shown enough at AFL level yet to have judgements placed on him on whether he'll be good or not.

Murphy has more natural ability than Brock (Though it's like comparing Hird to Ricciuto) but Sylvia has more natural ability than any player on our list and dare I say bar Fev more than any on Carltons.

And I'd have our list over Carltons any day of the week. I see Sheahan mentioned future A grade players for Carlton the other day and had Betts as one .

FYI I wouldn't have Flash as an A grade player, and he is far, far better than Betts.

Yep, carlton at least really had a dip.

Wind the clock back 7 days and Carlton got rolled by 20 goals.

Wind the clock back 7 days and Carlton got rolled by 20 goals.

Ratten did extremely well to turn a 20 goal defeat into a 10 point defeat in one week (against a good opponent).

Suddenly they're gallant in defeat, instead of insipid.

It's the demoralising 10+ goal losses that really hurt you in the long run.

Throwaway comment from a boring commentator.

I have to say that generally commentators don't trouble me too much, but I was less than enraptured with Jackovich throughout the call.

This particular comment didn't really help improve him to me, but I guess he was watching a fairly inept performance from a team that should be better.

That being said you do wonder if he was asked the same question while watching Carlton last week against the Lions, would he have said Melbourne?

I have to say that generally commentators don't trouble me too much, but I was less than enraptured with Jackovich throughout the call.

This particular comment didn't really help improve him to me, but I guess he was watching a fairly inept performance from a team that should be better.

That being said you do wonder if he was asked the same question while watching Carlton last week against the Lions, would he have said Melbourne?

carlton lol...... yer id love to coach the worst side in the last 10 years.....

grandstand comment from jackovich provokin a reaction in listners.

the real question is does melbourne want him coaching melbourne.... No he can coach carlton

i watched the game with the brilliant foxtel active function 'audio' option.

all i can say is, wow, when the commentators shut up, your head can relax and you can actually take in the game, it's fantastic. i just hope that it somehow gets registered and they get figures about how many people do the same. grybas' barracking in the last quarter was a joke, but then again, so is his commentary week-in week-out. you guys should do the same