30 minutes ago, Colm said:

Somebody supposedly IDk, had said that Richmond met with Cumming in Mildura over the weekend and told him he was one of 3 they are consisting for their 2 picks so the above may be true.

Would be stoked if Taylor slipped to us.

This is true. Richmond are leaning towards Sam Cumming now. Interesting if they then choose Taylor or Robey.

3 minutes ago, BC_1718_DC said:

This is true. Richmond are leaning towards Sam Cumming now. Interesting if they then choose Taylor or Robey.

The person who leaked that original rumour also said they were leaning towards taking Sharp as well - any intel on that @BC_1718_DC ?

10 minutes ago, BC_1718_DC said:

This is true. Richmond are leaning towards Sam Cumming now. Interesting if they then choose Taylor or Robey.

Yeah just seen that confirmed on the AFL site reported by Cal Twomey. Met with him like they did Lalor before but unlike Lalor didn't confirm with him (Cumming) they will take him. But the inference is there.

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41 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I rate Xavier Taylor very highly. Excellent mark. Good pace (below 3 secs for 20m sprint). Smart. Can lockdown forwards. Determined. Has footy aggression. Doesn’t shirk a contest. Plays like Daniel Turner or Nick Vlastin type defender.

some suggest he can also become a big bodied mid in the future.

unpopular opinion but I would like to see him up forward. He is a solid mark and a great reader of the ball and could be a handy swingman. Happy to be proved wrong,

sidenote he is probably better a a defender due to his intercepting capabilities but I'm curious

Intersting Dovaston had recently (in the last few days) received an invite to the first night of the draft and putting the peices together it's around the same time as Essendon were dealing for pick 9, and Dovaston and Taylor (best mates) were seen at Essendon training..

Could there be something to this?

22 minutes ago, demoncat said:

The person who leaked that original rumour also said they were leaning towards taking Sharp as well - any intel on that @BC_1718_DC ?

Have not heard the Sharp part. Think he’s a lock for the Dons.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Would be stoked if Taylor slid to us. He looks certain to make it as at least a good AFL player.

Nairn doesn't excite me at all though. The supposed interest from us with a top ten pick baffles me. Not against a bolder, but I don't see attributes worth stumping up a premium pick. Players like Sharp or Cumming look far more desirable and bankable to be good players for us.

Fingers crossed for a Taylor and Sharp double.

12 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Let’s hope so, as trading up has not really been a winning strategy for us. It did net us Kozzie, but it’s also landed us with Laurie, Tholstrup, and Jefferson

El Jeffe? I thought he was the second of the Jackson picks, not an upgrade?

To me pick 9 to the Bombers is all about Sharp, they knew we aren't keen on him and so this allows them to take 2 more preferred options and still get Sharp. It's a very smart play by them.

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

To me pick 9 to the Bombers is all about Sharp, they knew we aren't keen on him and so this allows them to take 2 more preferred options and still get Sharp. It's a very smart play by them.

Our only card to play now if it goes that way is putting it out there that our pick 8 is available to the highest bidder.

Another team could still be desperate to land Sharp and happy to pay up for that pick, meaning hopefully this possibility spooks the Bombers into taking him with one of their earlier two picks.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Dee Boys

14 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Admittedly I've only seen a couple of highlights of Nairn and I don't like his kicking, it doesn't look smooth.

Neither does Gryan Miers !

3 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Our only card to play now if it goes that way is putting it out there that our pick 8 is available to the highest bidder.

Another team could still be desperate to land Sharp and happy to pay up for that pick, meaning hopefully the Bombers are spooked into taking him with one of their earlier two picks.

I have actually heard a few teams have been trying to move 2025 first rounders in 2026 with very limited success, teams just value the 2026 picks a lot more highly than anything really in this draft.

I am really really surprised we aren't keen on Sharp, i feel like he'd make us better right away, offset a bit of what we've lost and the word is he's a brilliant leader.

My preference for our 2 picks is any 2 of Robey, Srlj, Cumming, Sharp or Farrow. But it feels like we're going to potentially get/take none of them

25 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

To me pick 9 to the Bombers is all about Sharp, they knew we aren't keen on him and so this allows them to take 2 more preferred options and still get Sharp. It's a very smart play by them.

I read it this way also. If this is the case we should trade 7 or 8 for WCE 13 and future 2nd.

WC will take Duursma and CDT. They will want a midfielder and Sharp will be there. We get Nairn at 13 and gain a good 2nd round pick.

4 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I have actually heard a few teams have been trying to move 2025 first rounders in 2026 with very limited success, teams just value the 2026 picks a lot more highly than anything really in this draft.

I am really really surprised we aren't keen on Sharp, i feel like he'd make us better right away, offset a bit of what we've lost and the word is he's a brilliant leader.

My preference for our 2 picks is any 2 of Robey, Srlj, Cumming, Sharp or Farrow. But it feels like we're going to potentially get/take none of them

I'm not that surprised we're passing on Sharp if he's there when our first pick is up, which is looking likely with the Bombers potential plan. That Carlton trade as you rightly mentioned is looking a savvy move to get him with that Carlton pick.

The knock on Sharp seems to be his lack of versatility due to average kicking, outside game and pace. He might make us better right away but long term we could face a similar issue we've had with Oliver and Viney having a player is only really effective as an inside mid. Doesn't seem to line up with King's likely game plan either or our recent draft prioritese of players with sound kicking skills from the jump.

From rookie central:

Sharp remains entrenched in the ever evolving footballer vs. athlete debate. He is the type who has a high floor, but arguably lower ceiling than others in the same draft range

On pure performance, Sharp was among the best of the crop, but a crystal ball approach may favour others in the draft class. The way top level football is headed leans towards fast transitional play, where leg speed and foot skills are king. Sharp's skillset fits outside that category, but still has a place in the modern game to help enhance those who thrive on that style.

My dream out come would be…

X Taylor at 7

Send 8 & 37 to the crows for 16 & F1

Crows take sharp lol at the bombers

We take Nairn at 16

3 first rounders next year is a great hand to land BH

2 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

I'm not that surprised we're passing on Sharp if he's there when our first pick is up, which is looking likely with the Bombers potential plan. That Carlton trade as you rightly mentioned is looking a savvy move to get him with that Carlton pick.

The knock on Sharp seems to be his lack of versatility due to average kicking, outside game and pace. He might make us better right away but long term we could face a similar issue we've had with Oliver and Viney having a player is only really effective as an inside mid. Doesn't seem to line up with King's likely game plan either or our recent draft prioritese of players with sound kicking skills from the jump.

From rookie central:

Sharp remains entrenched in the ever evolving footballer vs. athlete debate. He is the type who has a high floor, but arguably lower ceiling than others in the same draft range

On pure performance, Sharp was among the best of the crop, but a crystal ball approach may favour others in the draft class. The way top level football is headed leans towards fast transitional play, where leg speed and foot skills are king. Sharp's skillset fits outside that category, but still has a place in the modern game to help enhance those who thrive on that style.

I spoke to someone about him and this is what i was told

"All of the clubs in his draft range would be weighing up if he's Joel Selwood or Dev Robertson."

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

I spoke to someone about him and this is what i was told

"All of the clubs in his draft range would be weighing up if he's Joel Selwood or Dev Robertson."

Thats a great call. I think thats why we don't take the risk. Leave that to Essendon hopefully. With Cumming looking likely to go to Richmond now I think Essendon have to take the risk on Sharp as they're desperate for decent mids.

Edited 34 minutes ago34 min by Young Blood

The way I’m reading it is we see a big tier break after Robey, Taylor, Cumming, Farrow, Nairn. If only Nairn is available with 2 picks I could definitely see us shopping the other pick for a club looking to get up for Sharp. It would seem incredibly risky for Essendon to bank on us not trading the pick if they rate Sharp as their best player with the picks before us. Would imagine in the top 10 you just have to pick best available.

5 minutes ago, Gawndog98 said:

The way I’m reading it is we see a big tier break after Robey, Taylor, Cumming, Farrow, Nairn. If only Nairn is available with 2 picks I could definitely see us shopping the other pick for a club looking to get up for Sharp. It would seem incredibly risky for Essendon to bank on us not trading the pick if they rate Sharp as their best player with the picks before us. Would imagine in the top 10 you just have to pick best available.

The recent mail is that Cumming is now likely to go to Richmond

If that’s the case does it make it more likely that Essendon has to take Sharp with 5 or 6 lest they miss out on an inside mid (presuming Robey is also unavailable in this scenario)?

As you say it’s incredibly risky to let him slide to us as we would be getting offers if he’s still on the board

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What I don't understand is why we would make it apparent that we're not into guys like Sharp or Grijl. Is it in our best interest to make it that obvious we don't rate them or they don't fit with our side/plans?

Wouldn't it make sense for us to at least make it known that those two players are still in our mix so teams get spooked or feel the heat to pick them?

I understand draft recruiters would back themselves in and probably don't pay much attention to where other recruiters rate players. But in this instance with Essendon and Sharp they know we aren't likely to pick him so they're looking to do the Carlton Trade so they can grab him later. That means they can use their first two picks to grab higher ceiling players.

If it goes as currently planned Essendon could end up with Taylor, Farrow and Sharp. Leaving us to pick from to pick from guys like Schubert, Lindsay and Phillipou.

I don't get why its made so obvious whom clubs aren't into. I would have thought creating some mystery might help us being late top 10 picks.

Edited 12 minutes ago12 min by Young Blood

10 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

What I don't understand is why we would make it apparent that we're not into guys like Sharp or Grijl. Is it in our best interest to make it that obvious we don't rate them or they don't fit with our side/plans?

Wouldn't it make sense for us to at least make it known that those two players are still in our mix so teams get spooked or feel the heat to pick them?

I understand draft recruiters would back themselves in and probably don't pay much attention to where other recruiters rate players. But in this instance with Essendon and Sharp they know we aren't likely to pick him so they're looking to do the Carlton Trade so they can grab him later. That means they can use their first two picks to grab higher ceiling players.

If it goes as currently planned Essendon could end up with Taylor, Farrow and Sharp. Leaving us to pick from to pick from guys like Schubert, Lindsay and Phillipou.

I don't get why its made so obvious whom clubs aren't into. I would have thought creating some mystery might help us being late top 10 picks.

I don't think it's a deliberate play to make it obvious, but when you have finite resources, you need to put them towards those you are interested in. And when players or managers don't get attention from clubs, that's where the mail comes from.

I don't think JT and team should be travelling and spending time meeting players they aren't going to draft.

how about

we give 7,38,gws future 3rd

for wce 13, 30