Ok, this is a thread for everyone to vent their spleen, mod's please go easy with this thread, it's best if we all have our say, but please no personal comments.

I'll kick it off and have a whinge about our forward structure, our whole game plan revolves around getting the ball to David Neitz, but when he doesn't play we're shiite because we have no one to replace him. We so bereft of key forwards we've been forced to play two of our promising midfielders as fill ins for a CHF. After ten years Daniher still hasn't developed a key forward.

Newton shoulda played tonight. Yet Danners went with Yze.

Problem is with Danners. If the players arnt listening what hope do we have.

Time to rebuild but not a full clean out as some on here would suggest.

Ive only seen a half and the problem is that everyone is going crap.

Melbourne were getting the taps. Richmond were getting the clearances.

When Melbourne got the ball across half back, they had no one to kick to. When Richmond had the ball across half back they had 6 runners free.

This was the most pathetic performance I have ever seen from a Melbourne side. Bar none.

No presence and sadly no view to the future.

ND (and I won't blame the other selectors as I understand that he is autocratic on selection) made the all too predictable selection of Yze > Newton.

Mark McLure is now saying just what I said - they just didn't look to the future.

What future do we have. NONE UNDER THIS COACH.

I am so disappointed for the likes of Brock and Nathan Jones - what do they have to look forward to??????

I will struggle to bring myself to watch another game this year.

Very happy to watch VFL - they play with heart and leadership.

I suppose ND will say something along the lines that we missed Neitz - what - one player????

What we lacked was heart and on and off field leadership.

I have noticed that whenever we are favortites , the team lack harness, and intensity.

The players seem to get too complacent!!

How can a team with only 2 wins for the year get complacent?

Its ridiculous.

besides the obvious no player inside 50 who was a key tall forward (we lost at the selection table), the obvious one was our refusal to follow their loose men in defence...

just one problem????..thats not fair...

but i'll give it a crack..

shizen coach...

so called leaders couldn't lead a marching band...

no forward line structure...

players were supposed ot be fit and running after a new pre season regime...yet they got outrun and out played by a team that has not won a game all year....

too many players with shizen disposal...

too many slow players....

ok now i'll give others a go....

I hate going to Melbourne games, and when your team walks off the ground at half time almost 11 goals down to a winless Tigers, and you hurl abuse at their pathetic performance, other Demon supporters sit there quietly looking at you like you have a disease.

slow and sluggish and deplorable passing by hand and foot.

so far behind the eight ball, outwitted and outsmarted by richmond ffs.

no heart

no effort

no smart deciion making by those on and off the ground

How can a team with only 2 wins for the year get complacent?

Its ridiculous.

what are u talking about...they won 2 games in a row.....in their minds they were GF fav's

i wished i lived in their world...of fairies and goblins and the magic faraway tree

just one problem????

Beat me to it there D2......

There was a hell of a lot more than one problem out there tonight unfortunately :angry:

I hate going to Melbourne games, and when your team walks off the ground at half time almost 11 goals down to a winless Tigers, and you hurl abuse at their pathetic performance, other Demon supporters sit there quietly looking at you like you have a disease.

I was wondering what was going on fence side when they were coming off, don't reckon i could have refrained from hurling something their way had i been closer. when they dish up that crap they deserve some slander.

Melbourne were getting the taps. Richmond were getting the clearances.

When Melbourne got the ball across half back, they had no one to kick to. When Richmond had the ball across half back they had 6 runners free.

This was the most pathetic performance I have ever seen from a Melbourne side. Bar none.

Sums up my thoughts perfectly.

Oh, and the umpires (while generally trying to help us) are ruining the game. Let the players have a crack for Christ's sake. There were so many free kicks tonight that no-one in the crowd had seen, it was crazy. I am rapidly starting to dis-like the AFL game.

i wished i lived in their world...of fairies and goblins and the magic faraway tree

Oh my... has Daniher started reading Enid Blyton to them before games?

no heart

no effort

no smart deciion making by those on and off the ground

good post 84

I have a problem.. not necessarily one with the team, but a problem none the less. (I don't want to start a new thread just for me to vent in)

I was going to bring it up after the Collingwood game, but knew I would be executed particularly after his 7-goal bag (which I'm not by any means trying to take away from him)...but particularly of late I have noticed that Russell Robertson's attitude is appauling.

The words selfish, arrogant and whinger come to mind.

I've been watching this very closely for a while now, and wasn't ever going to say anything but I am honestly about to blow my load, so to speak.

He consistently doesn't celebrate when a fellow Demon gets a goal if he thinks he could have got it himself.

He whinges and whines, and feins (can't spell) injury if he drops a mark or mucks up a passage of play, then miraculously recovers once he discovers he can't fool the umpires for a free kick.

And it just makes you think, players like Neitz and Brock would never, ever, ever pull that sh*t, even if we were 50 points down.

It's infuriating to watch him, and I say good move taking him out of the leadership team.

Oh my... has Daniher started reading Enid Blyton to them before games?

And that would be very funny, if it didn't sound a just little too true :D !!!

I have a problem.. not necessarily one with the team, but a problem none the less. (I don't want to start a new thread just for me to vent in)

I was going to bring it up after the Collingwood game, but knew I would be executed particularly after his 8-goal bag (which I'm not by any means trying to take away from him)...but particularly of late I have noticed that Russell Robertson's attitude is appauling.

The words selfish, arrogant and whinger come to mind.

I've been watching this very closely for a while now, and wasn't ever going to say anything but I am honestly about to blow my load, so to speak.

He consistently doesn't celebrate when a fellow Demon gets a goal if he thinks he could have got it himself.

He whinges and whines, and feins (can't spell) injury if he drops a mark or mucks up a passage of play, then miraculously recovers once he discovers he can't fool the umpires for a free kick.

And it just makes you think, players like Neitz and Brock would never, ever, ever pull that sh*t, even if we were 50 points down.

It's infuriating to watch him, and I say good move taking him out of the leadership team.

i agree with you in some regrds, drops his head very easily and yes the staging for frees is embarrasing.

i don't think he's an overly selfish player per se though, as a relatively small forward, sometimes you have to be adn nor do i think there's anything wrong with being a little cocky.

im not sure about this goal celebratory issue, i find it hard to believe though bc as far as im concerned robbo absolutely bleeds for melbourne and btw he kicked seven last week.

I still can't believe Pettard didn't play in the first qtr.

What's the strategy in bringing Davey off the bench? He'll get tagged when he comes on anyway.

I have a problem.. not necessarily one with the team, but a problem none the less. (I don't want to start a new thread just for me to vent in)

I was going to bring it up after the Collingwood game, but knew I would be executed particularly after his 8-goal bag (which I'm not by any means trying to take away from him)...but particularly of late I have noticed that Russell Robertson's attitude is appauling.

The words selfish, arrogant and whinger come to mind.

I've been watching this very closely for a while now, and wasn't ever going to say anything but I am honestly about to blow my load, so to speak.

He consistently doesn't celebrate when a fellow Demon gets a goal if he thinks he could have got it himself.

He whinges and whines, and feins (can't spell) injury if he drops a mark or mucks up a passage of play, then miraculously recovers once he discovers he can't fool the umpires for a free kick.

And it just makes you think, players like Neitz and Brock would never, ever, ever pull that sh*t, even if we were 50 points down.

It's infuriating to watch him, and I say good move taking him out of the leadership team.

DS06, while the timing of the post might not be right and you will be howled down by others, I agree.

Too often Robbo spends too much time focus on MOTD and GOTD and not maximising the opportunity that comes forward for the side.

I don't see any problems only positives. Because......

We won't see any players in the media this week talking UP finals = POSITIVE

We won't see ND in the media this week telling us we are going to help shape the finals = POSITIVE

ND has shown us, yet AGAIN, that he is hopeless when having to react to other coaches tactics = POSITIVE (he is one week closer to getting the sack).

We are closer to getting the first draft pick = POSITIVE

Juice is one week closer to getting a game = POSITIVE

The 'annual tradition' of losing to the bottom team (or the game we should win) remains in tact = POSITIVE

Seriously, has anyone got a recent snow report? I don't think I'll be going to the footy again this year after that leaderless debarcle.

GO NEALE - just go! :angry:

if I have to pick 1, leadership. True leaders take accountiblility for themselves and their team mates. Im not sure i saw much of that tonight.

Lift Melbourne Lift.