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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 3, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Gonna go out on a bit of a limb here and say... getting Clarry right should possibly be our highest priority between now and post the bye!

How we do that i don't know (very few ready made mids knocking on the door for a 'managed' situation) but the FD and Sports ppl will really need to make sure Clarry's hand gets to a fully recovered state over the next 4 to 6 IF we're to go deep into finals and possibly further.

Does the FD consider resting Clarry for say Kolt or Sestan in order to get Clarry right for the post bye leg?

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 5.320 1 4.707 13.02 2 1
Max Gawn 4.045 2 3.350 20.75 7 5
Jack Viney 3.995 3 3.707 7.77 4 1
Steven May 3.783 4 3.213 17.74 8 4
C Oliver 3.460 5 5.002 -30.83 1 -4
Judd McVee 3.230 6 2.320 39.22 22 16
T Sparrow 3.205 7 2.811 14.02 16 9
A Tomlinson* 3.175 8 2.915 8.92 14 6
T Rivers 3.145 9 3.696 -14.91 5 -4
C Salem 3.025 10 2.993 1.07 12 2
Ed Langdon 2.972 11 3.057 -2.78 10 -1
Jake Lever 2.972 11 3.131 -5.08 9 -2
A N-Bullen 2.805 13 2.532 10.78 20 7
T McDonald 2.688 14 2.054 30.87 27 13
K Chandler 2.630 15 2.265 16.11 23 8
K Pickett 2.569 16 2.101 22.28 26 10
J Billings > < 2.519 17 - - - -
M Hore 2.273 18        
B Howes 2.240 19 - - - -
B Fritsch 2.190 20 2.324 -5.77 21 1
J V Rooyen 2.090 21 2.170 -3.69 25 4
C Windsor < 2.065 22 - - - -
J Bowey* 1.950 23 2.820 -30.85 15 -8
H Petty 1.850 24 2.718 -31.94 19 -5
Ben Brown < 1.658 25 1.941 -14.58 28 3
C Spargo* 1.200 26 1.886 -36.37 29 3
B Laurie* < 0.775 27 2.235 -65.32 24 -3
J Schache* 0.700 28 1.525 -54.10 33 5
T Woewodin* < > 0.378 29 1.406 -73.12 34 5
L Hunter - - 2.939 - 13 -
D Turner - - 1.825 - 31 -
J Melksham - - 1.599 - 32 -
S McAdam - - - - - -
Team Rating 66.40   69.86 -4.96    
Top 6 23.83   24.43 -2.44    
Bottom 6 13.38   15.17 -11.82    

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Thanks Demon Dynasty I can relax now and yes the medical team have to find a way to fix Clayton’s hand but probably don’t want to put him on ice as he doesn’t cope well being out of his game routine. It is a bloody tough one.

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Mods if you could alter my last post's header from round 3 to "to Round 4, 2024" if possible pls 🙏🏼

 

DZ i hear what you're saying but clarry would still be training / at club on a regular basis if he misses a week or even two (if needed).  I'm sure he'll have a busy program to get through.  It just won't involve any work that might impact the hand for a bit till it's back towards normal.

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https://www.afl.com.au/news/1105080

Getting Clarry back towards his usual speed would change this completely.  Presently 30% off his season 2023 rating.

The Clarry of 2019 - 23 would see us sitting alongside Port & the Dogs.  The Swans got off to a hot start but i expect them to come back to the pack as the season rolls along.

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Melbourne v Brisbane (Round 5, 2024)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20240501

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 71.2 76.1 -4.8
Kicking Efficiency 66.8 75.3 -8.5
Metres Gained 5295 5599 -304
Inside 50s 50 58 -8
Shots At Goal 19 22 -3
Shots Per Inside 50 38.0 37.9 +0.1
Contested Possessions 121 134 -13
Ground Ball Gets 72 93 -21
Intercepts 64 61 +3
Intercept Marks 26 17 +9
Centre Clearances 11 11 +0
Stoppage Clearances 24 33 -9
Contested Marks 14 10 +4
Marks Inside 50 9 12 -3
Hitouts 58 27 +31
Hitouts To Advantage 13 8 +5
Tackles 53 82 -29
Tackles Inside 50 5 15 -10
Def One On One Loss % 30.0 12.5 +17.5

Expected scores

Team Shots Score Accuracy xScore +/- xSc. /
Shot
Shot
Rating
Overall
Melbourne 19 8.10.58 42.1% 58.0 +0.0 3.05 +0.00
Brisbane 22 12.8.80 54.5% 82.8 −2.8 3.76 −0.13
General Play
Melbourne 7 1.6.12 14.3% 16.6 −4.6 2.36 −0.65
Brisbane 11 6.4.40 54.5% 37.1 +2.9 3.38 +0.26
Set Position
Melbourne 12 7.4.46 58.3% 41.5 +4.5 3.46 +0.38
Brisbane 11 6.4.40 54.5% 45.6 −5.6 4.15 −0.51
  • xScore: total expected score from all shots taken.
  • +/-: total score above or below expected score.
  • xSc. / Shot: average expected score per shot. This represents the average shot difficulty.
  • Shot Rating: average score above or below expected score per shot at goal.

Notes: Expected scores are calculated by Wheelo Ratings. Each shot at goal is assigned an expected score based on the distance from goal, shot angle, and type of shot (e.g. set shot, general play following contested possession, general play following uncontested possession, ground kick, etc) as a proxy for pressure. The model does not take into account factors like the player, whether the ball was kicked with their preferred or non-preferred foot, and pressure on the player when taking the shot. Rushed behinds are excluded from actual and expected scores.

 

 

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 199 227
2 160 191
3 151 197
4 164 186
Match 168 201

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average
Tom Sparrow 30 76 54.8
Jack Viney 30 59 59.0
Ed Langdon 17 45 33.3
Koltyn Tholstrup 17 39 39.0
Clayton Oliver 19 38 38.0
Kade Chandler 20 36 49.2
Alex Neal-Bullen 13 33 50.2
Caleb Windsor 17 30 33.3
Max Gawn 11 28 30.7
Judd McVee 10 27 14.3
Jack Billings 9 26 25.8
Trent Rivers 10 25 21.2
Christian Petracca 12 22 39.7
Taj Woewodin 10 21 13.8
Tom McDonald 8 20 23.0
Harrison Petty 10 18 23.2
Blake Howes 10 18 19.3
Steven May 6 15 11.8
Jake Lever 7 11 16.5
Jacob van Rooyen 5 6 16.2
Ben Brown 2 3 9.0
Bayley Fritsch 1 2 15.8
Christian Salem 0 0 26.8

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 34% 66%
2 51% 49%
3 42% 58%
4 64% 36%
Match 46% 54%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarter values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Category Score Against Diff
Kick-in 1.0.6 0.1.1 +5
Centre Bounce 1.3.9 1.1.7 +2
Stoppage (Other) 2.3.15 6.4.40 -25
Turnover 4.6.30 5.4.34 -4
Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 6 4.5 1 3.7
Centre Bounce 9 12.2 7 6.8
Stoppage (Other) 15 26.0 40 19.2
Turnover 30 40.7 34 40.7

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in D50 6 4.5 1 3.7
Centre Bounce Centre 9 12.2 7 6.8
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 1.2 0 0.0
Stoppage (Other) Centre 1 0.3 6 2.0
Stoppage (Other) Wing 12 15.8 24 11.2
Stoppage (Other) F50 2 8.7 10 6.0
Turnover D50 0 5.2 1 5.7
Turnover Centre 2 6.0 1 4.0
Turnover Wing 28 21.3 26 26.0
Turnover F50 0 8.2 6 5.0
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season *
D50 6 10.8 2 9.3
Centre 12 18.5 14 12.8
Wing 40 37.2 50 37.2
F50 2 16.8 16 11.0

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season *
31 30.0 20 22.2

* Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Brisbane.

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 22 92% 86.1% 64.9%
Christian Petracca 18 75% 62.3% 61.1%
Jack Viney 16 67% 74.2% 72.1%
Tom Sparrow 15 62% 42.4% 44.9%
Clayton Oliver 10 42% 66.9% 81.4%
Trent Rivers 8 33% 5.3% 3.0%
Alex Neal-Bullen 3 12% 2.6% 2.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 2 8% 12.6% 7.6%
Koltyn Tholstrup 2 8% 8.3%  
Christian Salem 0 0% 27.2% 0.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 0.7%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 5.7%
Kysaiah Pickett     25.2% 11.2%
Josh Schache     8.3% 0.0%
Charlie Spargo     4.2% 0.0%

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2024 % 2023 %
Max Gawn 96 90% 83.8% 57.5%
Jacob van Rooyen 11 10% 13.8% 13.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0% 0.0% 2.3%
Christian Petracca 0 0% 0.0% 0.4%
Clayton Oliver 0 0% 0.0% 0.1%
Harrison Petty 0 0% 0.0% 2.0%
Steven May 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0% 0.0% 9.3%
Tom Sparrow 0 0% 0.0% 0.0%
Josh Schache     13.3% 4.1%

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2024)
To Adv. %
(2023)
Max Gawn 96 51 12 29.2% 30.1%
Jacob van Rooyen 11 7 1 29.2% 31.1%
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 0   0.0%
Ben Brown 0 0 0   0.0%
Christian Petracca 0 0 0   100.0%
Harrison Petty 0 0 0   25.0%
Tom McDonald 0 0 0   20.0%
Josh Schache       100.0% 0.0%

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Oscar McInerney 87 26 8
Joe Daniher 13 1 0
Darcy Gardiner 2 0 0
Eric Hipwood 5 0 0
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23 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 199 227
2 160 191
3 151 197
4 164 186
Match 168 201

Yuck. That says fatigue to me.

25 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:
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Score Source For Against
Match Season Match Season *
Kick-in 6 4.5 1 3.7
Centre Bounce 9 12.2 7 6.8
Stoppage (Other) 15 26.0 40 19.2
Turnover 30 40.7 34 40.7

That’s a smashing at stoppage. Couldn’t generate scores ourselves plus couldn’t stop them. 

Given our strengths are normally contest, stoppage work and pressure it looks to me like a one off where we just physically couldn’t perform rather than a fundamental personnel/game style issue. Wouldn’t want to put up these numbers against the Cats and Blues though. 

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Round 5, 2024 MCG - Demons vs Lions

Absolutely mauled.  Especially the regular midfielders.

Team Rating 20% off 2023.  Bottom 6 off a cliff vs 2023!

Hopefully a one-off off game following the two weeks in Adelaide but who knows.

The numbers are no prettier than last night's showing with a few notable exceptions.

Notably Max, Lever, Rivers, T-Mac & Lingers.

Rivers with 33% CBA and quite serviceable out of the middle.  Probably our best mid on the night.  That has to tell the FD something surely?  Hopefully they come around to playing him in the middle more often and just more!  He just might be the dynamic lift needed and personally i think he has more upside potential here than Salem & Sparrow.

One positive on the rookie front was a 20% improvement by Woe from his wobbly 2023 rating (many subbed results in there).

Fritta & Petty barely registering a positive rating.  BBB not far behind and pretty much the same lowely rating as last week.  Minimal / poor supply obviously didn't help their cause.  Not a great result for Chandler either.

Player Rating Rank 2023 Season Rating % Change vs 2023
Max Gawn 5.025 1 3.350 50.00
Jake Lever 5.025 1 3.131 60.49
T Rivers 4.525 3 3.696 22.43
T McDonald 4.275 4 2.054 108.13
Ed Langdon 4.075 5 3.057 33.30
S May 3.525 6 3.213 9.71
Jack Viney 3.025 7 3.707 -18.40
C Oliver 2.775 8 5.002 -44.52
C Petracca 2.500 9 4.707 -46.89
A N-Bullen 2.500 9 2.532 -1.26
J McVee 2.450 11 2.320 5.60
B Howes 2.375 12 - -
T Sparrow 2.300 13 2.811 -18.18
J Billings 2.150 14 - -
T Woewodin > 69% 1.800 15 1.406 28.02
K Chandler 1.650 16 2.265 -27.15
C Windsor 1.650 16 - -
J V Rooyen 1.525 18 2.170 -29.72
K Tholstrup 1.100 19 - -
Ben Brown 0.950 20 1.941 -51.06
B Fritsch 0.600 21 2.324 -74.18
H Petty 0.075 22 2.718 -97.24
C Salem < 7% (inj) -0.025 23 2.993 -100.84
Team Score 55.88   69.86 -20.02
Top 6 26.45   24.43 8.27
Bottom 6 5.90   15.17 -61.11

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I know we usually play one short at the stoppage and a spare behind play, that seemed to kill us last night.

I do wonder if they should be changing that up against certain sides like Brisbane and Carlton who are really strong in a stoppage scenario.

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4 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I know we usually play one short at the stoppage and a spare behind play, that seemed to kill us last night.

I do wonder if they should be changing that up against certain sides like Brisbane and Carlton who are really strong in a stoppage scenario.

Yes this was something i raised last night just after half time in the game day thread.

If that was the case, especially after half time, then it would be a pretty dissapointing outcome for the brains trust if they allowed this to continue throughout the match or left it too late.

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Jeez the pressure factor was so out of whack for us and then DD our player ratings down 20% on our 2023 average is dreadful. Our six best players can hold their heads up but the Lions had seven of the top ten players out on the ground, we looked fatigue’d right from the get go, also as you mentioned previously need to get Clayton’s hand right before he does any more damage. It was very hard to watch that game last night and a quiet drive home.

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The numbers tell the tale.  Killed in clearance leading to massive time in forward half discrepancy.  Shark inside to outside to i 50 kick and repeat. Lack of pressure, tackles and chase, no groundball skills.

So many players off the boil.

Needs to be addressed before it sets the ‘how to beat the demons’ blueprint.

Also, was that the worst umpiring you have seen in a long time???

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6 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Jeez the pressure factor was so out of whack for us and then DD our player ratings down 20% on our 2023 average is dreadful. Our six best players can hold their heads up but the Lions had seven of the top ten players out on the ground, we looked fatigue’d right from the get go, also as you mentioned previously need to get Clayton’s hand right before he does any more damage. It was very hard to watch that game last night and a quiet drive home.

That first quarter in particular.  Both teams pressure rating was well above AFL average but the Lions' were off the charts and that set the tone for their night.

We couldn't go with their pressure in quarters 2 or 3 either.

I'm still of the belief that if we had a ready made mid to come in and replace Clarry for this match we would have done so and sent him in for surgery post the Crows.

There were a few concerned faces at the Cap's run on Weds when Clarry was leaving the track.

In hindsight his horror rating against the Crows was the canary in the coal mine and he obviously wasn't comfortable with things on the track either post that match.

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

After six matches our Team Rating is down 5% on our 2023 Team Rating.

That's not a long way off but it's still down.  Mostly made up from...

>  Clarry down 33% so far vs 2023

>  No Gus, statistically our 3rd best player in 2023

>  Rivers off just a tad but making up ground in the last few weeks

>  Petty a long way off his 2023 rating following his interrupted pre-season.

Personally feel he should not have been brought back as soon as we did.  I stated that at the time and happy to stand by this call.  At this level you cannot afford to play anyone who is/was this under-done.  I would also argue this for Clarry,  however who would we have brought in to replace for say Port or the Crows?  I would now suggest we use Rivers to cover for Clarry if he needs an extra week or two off to fully recover.  Better this than a recurrence!  Marty covers for Riv?

>  No Bowey (inj).

The Top 6 Rating is off 2023 by 4.5%   That's mostly the Clarry & Gus factor.  If Clarry was playing somewhere close to his 2023 Rating of '5.0' our Top 6 Rating so far in 2024 would be up by 2.5%!

A few significant factors going forward include... getting Clarry and Petty right (if Petty has to miss matches to do a mini pre-season then so be it).  Making sure Kozzy remains in the team and retains his early season form.  Getting McAdam and Melk fit, firing and pushing into this 22.  Getting better performances from our Bottom 6 players who are a fair way off 2023 levels.

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 4.850 1 4.707 3.0 2 1
Max Gawn 4.208 2 3.350 25.6 7 5
Jack Viney 3.833 3 3.707 3.4 4 1
Steven May 3.725 4 3.213 15.9 8 4
T Rivers 3.375 5 3.696 -8.7 5 0
C Oliver 3.346 6 5.002 -33.1 1 -5
Jake Lever 3.345 7 3.131 6.8 9 2
A Tomlinson* 3.175 8 2.915 8.9 14 6
Ed Langdon 3.142 9 3.057 2.8 10 1
Judd McVee 3.100 10 2.320 33.6 22 12
T Sparrow 3.054 11 2.811 8.6 16 5
T McDonald 3.005 12 2.054 46.3 27 15
C Salem < 2.978 13 2.993 -0.5 12 -1
A N-Bullen 2.754 14 2.532 8.8 20 6
K Pickett 2.569 15 2.101 22.3 26 11
K Chandler 2.467 16 2.265 8.9 23 7
J Billings > < 2.445 17 - - - -
T Woewodin* < > 2.432 18 1.406 73.0 34 16
M Hore 2.273 19   -    
B Howes 2.263 20 - - - -
J V Rooyen 1.996 21 2.170 -8.0 25 4
C Windsor < 1.996 21 - - - -
J Bowey* 1.950 23 2.820 -30.9 15 -8
B Fritsch 1.925 24 2.324 -17.2 21 -3
Ben Brown < 1.506 25 1.941 -22.4 28 3
H Petty 1.406 26 2.718 -48.3 19 -7
C Spargo* 1.200 27 1.886 -36.4 29 2
K Tholstrup* 1.100 28 - - - -
B Laurie* < 0.775 29 2.235 -65.3 24 -5
J Schache* 0.700 30 1.525 -54.1 33 3
L Hunter - - 2.939 - 13 -
D Turner - - 1.825 - 31 -
J Melksham - - 1.599 - 32 -
S McAdam - - - - - -
Team Rating 66.33   69.86 -5.1    
Top 6 23.34   24.43 -4.5    
Bottom 6 13.41   15.17 -11.6    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

< Subbed out at least once or more (player rating could be somewhat comprised)

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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1 hour ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

After six matches our Team Rating is down 5% on our 2023 Team Rating.

That's not a long way off but it's still down.  Mostly made up from...

>  Clarry down 33% so far vs 2023

>  No Gus, statistically our 3rd best player in 2023

>  Rivers off just a tad but making up ground in the last few weeks

>  Petty a long way off his 2023 rating following his interrupted pre-season.

Personally feel he should not have been brought back as soon as we did.  I stated that at the time and happy to stand by this call.  At this level you cannot afford to play anyone who is/was this under-done.  I would also argue this for Clarry,  however who would we have brought in to replace for say Port or the Crows?  I would now suggest we use Rivers to cover for Clarry if he needs an extra week or two off to fully recover.  Better this than a recurrence!  Marty covers for Riv?

>  No Bowey (inj).

The Top 6 Rating is off 2023 by 4.5%   That's mostly the Clarry & Gus factor.  If Clarry was playing somewhere close to his 2023 Rating of '5.0' our Top 6 Rating so far in 2024 would be up by 2.5%!

A few significant factors going forward include... getting Clarry and Petty right (if Petty has to miss matches to do a mini pre-season then so be it).  Making sure Kozzy remains in the team and retains his early season form.  Getting McAdam and Melk fit, firing and pushing into this 22.  Getting better performances from our Bottom 6 players who are a fair way off 2023 levels.

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 4.850 1 4.707 3.0 2 1
Max Gawn 4.208 2 3.350 25.6 7 5
Jack Viney 3.833 3 3.707 3.4 4 1
Steven May 3.725 4 3.213 15.9 8 4
T Rivers 3.375 5 3.696 -8.7 5 0
C Oliver 3.346 6 5.002 -33.1 1 -5
Jake Lever 3.345 7 3.131 6.8 9 2
A Tomlinson* 3.175 8 2.915 8.9 14 6
Ed Langdon 3.142 9 3.057 2.8 10 1
Judd McVee 3.100 10 2.320 33.6 22 12
T Sparrow 3.054 11 2.811 8.6 16 5
T McDonald 3.005 12 2.054 46.3 27 15
C Salem < 2.978 13 2.993 -0.5 12 -1
A N-Bullen 2.754 14 2.532 8.8 20 6
K Pickett 2.569 15 2.101 22.3 26 11
K Chandler 2.467 16 2.265 8.9 23 7
J Billings > < 2.445 17 - - - -
T Woewodin* < > 2.432 18 1.406 73.0 34 16
M Hore 2.273 19   -    
B Howes 2.263 20 - - - -
J V Rooyen 1.996 21 2.170 -8.0 25 4
C Windsor < 1.996 21 - - - -
J Bowey* 1.950 23 2.820 -30.9 15 -8
B Fritsch 1.925 24 2.324 -17.2 21 -3
Ben Brown < 1.506 25 1.941 -22.4 28 3
H Petty 1.406 26 2.718 -48.3 19 -7
C Spargo* 1.200 27 1.886 -36.4 29 2
K Tholstrup* 1.100 28 - - - -
B Laurie* < 0.775 29 2.235 -65.3 24 -5
J Schache* 0.700 30 1.525 -54.1 33 3
L Hunter - - 2.939 - 13 -
D Turner - - 1.825 - 31 -
J Melksham - - 1.599 - 32 -
S McAdam - - - - - -
Team Rating 66.33   69.86 -5.1    
Top 6 23.34   24.43 -4.5    
Bottom 6 13.41   15.17 -11.6    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

< Subbed out at least once or more (player rating could be somewhat comprised)

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

Thanks DD some big variations for a number of key personal and that game didn’t help to many players stats. So glad that they have operated on Clarry’s finger, hope they hold him back to give it a chance to recover, agree with Petty he is so out of form it isn’t funny, get Fullarton into the team he could not perform any worse than Benny or Harry.!!

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1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD some big variations for a number of key personal and that game didn’t help to many players stats. So glad that they have operated on Clarry’s finger, hope they hold him back to give it a chance to recover, agree with Petty he is so out of form it isn’t funny, get Fullarton into the team he could not perform any worse than Benny or Harry.!!

Doing some decent work today so far DZ including a nice low down mark on the lead courtesy of Brown dog and then goaled from 50!   Hopefully he can follow this up in the second half and stick his hand up to do just as you are suggesting.

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Christian Salem (Medium Defender  28yo  184cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Salem has played 5 matches so far in 2024.  He started Rnd 5 vs the Lions but was subbed with a hamstring resulting in only 7% game time.  Due to this very early exit i have not included his Rnd 5 output for rating purposes.

Listed as a defender but also plays midfield minutes in some matches.

#3  C Salem 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 6.1 5.9 -3.7
Uncontested Poss 12.9 13.4 4.3
Effective Disposals* 13.3 13.6 2.4
Disposal Effeciency % 67.7 74.7 6.9
Contested Marks* 0.4 0.0 -100.0
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 1.0 1.0 -1.4
Clearances* 1.1 1.6 47.3
Rebound 50s* 3.4 3.2 -6.0
Inside 50s* 2.6 2.2 -15.6
Tackles* 3.5 3.7 7.1
Score Inv'ments* 3.3 3.7 14.1
Meters Gained 315.8 368.6 16.7
Turnovers* 3.6 3.4 -6.1
Intercepts* 4.7 2.8 -41.4
Tackles Inside 50* 0.1 0.0 -100.0
Time On Ground % 82.9 79.9 -3.7
Goals* 0.0 0.2 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.0 3.0 -0.5

Only players who have played 5 matches or more in both season 2023 & 2024 are included in this review series

Some extreme percentage changes from this season (so far) to last may be as a result of very low comparative numbers. 

* Stat used to determine player rating.  All data averaged for comparison purposes.

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Judd McVee (Medium Defender  20yo  185cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Juddy has played all 6 matches so far in 2024.

#4  J McVee 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 4.7 4.7 0.3
Uncontested Poss 8.5 8.3 -1.7
Effective Disposals* 10.1 14.8 46.4
Disposal Effeciency % 77.6 83.1 5.6
Contested Marks* 0.3 0.2 -45.2
Marks inside 50* 0.1 0.0 -
One Percenters* 2.4 2.2 -11.0
Clearances* 0.3 0.5 91.7
Rebound 50s* 2.4 4.8 102.1
Inside 50s* 1.0 0.5 -50.0
Tackles* 1.4 0.7 -53.5
Score Involvements* 2.2 2.7 20.3
Meters Gained 182.7 338.7 85.3
Turnovers* 2.5 2.7 5.7
Intercepts* 5.3 5.2 -3.4
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 78.9 80.3 1.9
Goals* 0.0 0.0 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  2.3 3.1 33.6

Only players who have played 5 matches or more in both season 2023 & 2024 are included in this review series

Extreme percentage changes may arise due to very low comparative base numbers or a change of player's former role from one season to the next.

* Stat used to determine player rating.  All data averaged for comparison purposes.

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Jake Lever (Key Defender  29yo  194cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Jake has completed 5 matches with one additional match effected by injury so far in 2024.

#8  J Lever 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.6 5.3 -5.7
Uncontested Poss 8.7 9.8 13.1
Effective Disposals* 12.4 11.5 -7.7
Disposal Effeciency % 86.6 87.7 1.0
Contested Marks* 0.7 0.7 6.7
Marks inside 50* 0.1 0.0 -
One Percenters* 5.3 6.4 20.7
Clearances* 0.2 0.2 0.0
Rebound 50s* 3.3 5.1 55.6
Inside 50s* 1.0 1.3 27.3
Tackles* 1.1 2.0 76.0
Score Involvements* 2.0 3.5 72.7
Meters Gained 238.3 281.5 18.1
Turnovers* 2.4 2.7 13.2
Intercepts* 8.0 7.6 -5.1
Tackles Inside 50* 0.1 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 97.5 98.4 0.9
Goals* 0.0 0.2 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.1 3.3 6.9

Only players who have played 5 matches or more in both season 2023 & 2024 are included in this review series

Extreme percentage changes may arise due to very low comparative base numbers or a change of player's former role from one season to the next.

* Stat used to determine player rating.  All data averaged for comparison purposes.

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Trent Rivers (Medium Defender  22yo  188cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Trent has played all 6 matches so far in 2024.  Listed as a defender but also plays midfield minutes in some matches.

#24  T Rivers 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 6.3 6.0 -5.3
Uncontested Poss 13.5 11.8 -12.3
Effective Disposals* 15.7 14.2 -9.8
Disposal Effeciency % 76.8 75.2 -1.6
Contested Marks* 0.7 0.3 -49.5
Marks inside 50* 0.2 0.0 -
One Percenters* 2.2 1.7 -22.7
Clearances* 1.1 1.7 51.6
Rebound 50s* 4.0 3.7 -8.4
Inside 50s* 3.0 2.3 -22.0
Tackles* 2.3 2.0 -12.5
Score Involvements* 3.6 4.3 20.2
Meters Gained 393.9 333.7 -15.3
Turnovers* 3.2 3.2 -1.4
Intercepts* 6.6 5.8 -11.0
Tackles Inside 50* 0.1 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 78.2 82.2 5.1
Goals* 0.1 0.0 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.7 3.4 -8.7

Only players who have played 5 matches or more in both season 2023 & 2024 are included in this review series

Extreme percentage changes may arise due to very low comparative base numbers or a change of player's former role from one season to the next.

* Stat used to determine player rating.  All data averaged for comparison purposes.

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Tom McDonald (Key Defender  31yo  195cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Tom missed the opening 'zero' round but has since played the remaining 5 matches, switching from a Key Forward role in 2023 to his new role here of Key Defender.

It's worth noting that Player Ratings for Key Forwards and forwards in general are usually somewhat lower than roles played further up the ground eg; through the middle or back half, simply due to the more limited opportunities to rack up possessions, disposals, tackles & other involvements in general play.

Having said that, if said forward has a day out and is involved in alot of play, especially higher up the ground, and ends up kicking say 4 to 6 goals or more (for example) then the Player Rating will generally also reflect such a performance.

#25  T McDonald 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 5.2 3.8 -26.5
Uncontested Poss 6.2 8.2 33.0
Effective Disposals* 7.8 10.4 32.8
Disposal Effeciency % 77.9 87.1 9.3
Contested Marks* 1.0 1.0 0.0
Marks inside 50* 1.2 0.0 -100.0
One Percenters* 2.0 5.8 190.0
Clearances* 0.5 0.0 -100.0
Rebound 50s* 0.2 4.0 2300.0
Inside 50s* 1.7 1.2 -28.0
Tackles* 1.8 2.4 30.9
Score Involvements* 4.0 2.6 -35.0
Meters Gained 167.0 194.2 16.3
Turnovers* 2.2 1.6 -26.2
Intercepts* 1.3 5.4 305.0
Tackles Inside 50* 0.7 0.0 -100.0
Time On Ground % 77.0 98.8 28.3
Goals* 1.3 0.0 -100.0
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.3 0.0 -100.0
*DD's Player Rating  2.1 3.0 46.3

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Defenders

Steven May (Key Defender  32yo  193cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

May has played in 5 matches but missed the last half of Rnd 2 vs The Hawks and the following match against Port after being injured in the Hawks match.

#1  S May 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 4.5 4.7 4.3
Uncontested Poss 8.4 11.0 30.6
Effective Disposals* 14.2 15.5 9.3
Disposal Effeciency % 82.4 88.7 6.4
Contested Marks* 1.2 2.0 63.4
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 6.5 6.7 3.3
Clearances* 0.1 0.0 -
Rebound 50s* 6.2 5.8 -6.3
Inside 50s* 1.3 0.9 -32.6
Tackles* 1.6 1.6 -2.8
Score Involvements* 2.0 2.7 31.7
Meters Gained 407.3 379.6 -6.8
Turnovers* 4.6 2.9 -36.8
Intercepts* 6.7 5.8 -13.0
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 97.1 93.3 -4.0
Goals* 0.0 0.0 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.2 3.7 15.9

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Midfield (Wing)

Ed Langdon (Wing  28yo  182cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Ed has played all 6 matches so far in 2024.

#15  Ed Langdon 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 6.8 6.2 -8.9
Uncontested Poss 14.0 12.8 -8.3
Effective Disposals* 15.2 14.0 -7.8
Disposal Effeciency % 75.6 77.3 1.7
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.2 266.7
Marks inside 50* 0.5 0.5 10.0
One Percenters* 1.0 1.2 16.7
Clearances* 1.8 1.2 -35.8
Rebound 50s* 2.0 2.8 38.5
Inside 50s* 3.3 2.0 -39.7
Tackles* 2.4 3.2 31.4
Score Involvements* 3.9 3.3 -14.7
Meters Gained 345.4 256.0 -25.9
Turnovers* 4.4 2.5 -43.3
Intercepts* 4.2 3.2 -24.3
Tackles Inside 50* 0.3 0.2 -38.9
Time On Ground % 94.8 92.3 -2.6
Goals* 0.2 0.3 46.7
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  3.1 3.1 2.8

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Midfield (Wing)

Caleb Windsor (Wing  18yo  185cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Caleb has played all 6 matches so far in 2024.

#6  C Windsor 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 0.0 4.6 -
Uncontested Poss 0.0 10.7 -
Effective Disposals* 0.0 9.8 -
Disposal Effeciency % 0.0 70.4 -
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.0 -
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 0.0 1.1 -
Clearances* 0.0 1.8 -
Rebound 50s* 0.0 1.2 -
Inside 50s* 0.0 2.3 -
Tackles* 0.0 2.0 -
Score Involvements* 0.0 3.7 -
Meters Gained 0.0 275.8 -
Turnovers* 0.0 2.8 -
Intercepts* 0.0 2.0 -
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 0.0 83.5 -
Goals* 0.0 0.2 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  0.0 2.1 -

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Player Rating Review - Midfield (Wing)

Caleb Windsor (Wing  18yo  185cm)

Rnd 0 to Rnd 5, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Caleb has played all 6 matches so far in 2024.

#6  C Windsor 2023 2024 % Change 
Contested Poss 0.0 4.6 -
Uncontested Poss 0.0 10.7 -
Effective Disposals* 0.0 9.8 -
Disposal Effeciency % 0.0 70.4 -
Contested Marks* 0.0 0.0 -
Marks inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
One Percenters* 0.0 1.1 -
Clearances* 0.0 1.8 -
Rebound 50s* 0.0 1.2 -
Inside 50s* 0.0 2.3 -
Tackles* 0.0 2.0 -
Score Involvements* 0.0 3.7 -
Meters Gained 0.0 275.8 -
Turnovers* 0.0 2.8 -
Intercepts* 0.0 2.0 -
Tackles Inside 50* 0.0 0.0 -
Time On Ground % 0.0 83.5 -
Goals* 0.0 0.2 -
Hit Outs to Adv* 0.0 0.0 -
*DD's Player Rating  0.0 2.1 -

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

The Dukes doing ok DD.

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