On 24/07/2023 at 02:09, leave it to deever said:

Not that straight forward Jaded.

We kicked 11 and had two rushed.

Crows kicked 14 and had one rushed.

Also their missed shots were easier on the whole.

 

Perhaps, but Brayshaw missing from 15 metres on the left was easiest shot of the day!

  On 24/07/2023 at 04:14, SFebes said:

Commentators made a note of May putting the ball on the ground before kicking long up the centre, has anyone gone back and taken a look into this?

I feel (have for a while now) that kick-ins are definitely an area we can improve a lot in. Imagine if Grundy had Gawns capabilities in overhead marking, that's where this duo could really be an advantage with kick-ins.

Great pickup .  At the game I noticed this and May seemed to be adjsuting his shorts, or making it look like he had to tuck in a jumper, etc.  On one occaison, the Ump told him to get going he was wasting time or something similiar.  The 2 I noticed in the 3rd quarter had him perfectly targetting Max near the centre circle.

Fascinating.  Good use of May showing versatility, but hopefully Bowey and Salem keep doing the shorter clever kick ins.

  On 23/07/2023 at 22:50, sue said:

True, Melmsham did push, but no worse than is often ignored.  It shouldn't be ignored, just paid consistently.   As for the 50m against him (and against others on all teams) how about the AFL digs deep into Gil's retirement fund and pays for enough chalk to put a line across the ground in line with the 9m goal square. 

Yep!

Dotted even, and thinner, but agree should be explicit 

  On 24/07/2023 at 03:05, beelzebub said:

rubbish....love to see you cop the amount of chops, whacks and attention he gets.... and see how you feel about "Soft" ??  yeahhh....nahhh !!

He is the softest player in our forward line lol. You are kidding me right? Bloke has no idea how to attack the football, arms go to jelly as soon as they are hit….. he’s toast and hope he doesn’t play again we need a player that competes in the air not just sticks an arm up. Blind Freddy saw it yesterday hence why he was subbed

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:17, Tracca said:

He is the softest player in our forward line lol. You are kidding me right? Bloke has no idea how to attack the football, arms go to jelly as soon as they are hit….. he’s toast and hope he doesn’t play again we need a player that competes in the air not just sticks an arm up. Blind Freddy saw it yesterday hence why he was subbed

Is it still school holidays in Vic?

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:17, Tracca said:

He is the softest player in our forward line lol. You are kidding me right? Bloke has no idea how to attack the football, arms go to jelly as soon as they are hit….. he’s toast and hope he doesn’t play again we need a player that competes in the air not just sticks an arm up. Blind Freddy saw it yesterday hence why he was subbed

You try playing AFL level football with a knee that is bone on bone and then tell me how soft you are 🙄

Ben Brown has a much better idea of how to play a key position forward role than just about anyone else on our list. His body is unfortunately not what it once was and he’s bravely battling on because nobody else has been able to step it up! 

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:26, Jaded No More said:

You try playing AFL level football with a knee that is bone on bone and then tell me how soft you are 🙄

Ben Brown has a much better idea of how to play a key position forward role than just about anyone else on our list. His body is unfortunately not what it once was and he’s bravely battling on because nobody else has been able to step it up! 

Literally the worst kind of ‘supporter’

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:26, Jaded No More said:

You try playing AFL level football with a knee that is bone on bone and then tell me how soft you are 🙄

Ben Brown has a much better idea of how to play a key position forward role than just about anyone else on our list. His body is unfortunately not what it once was and he’s bravely battling on because nobody else has been able to step it up! 

Why is everyone using his knee as an excuse?

 

this is the reason he shouldn’t be playing. If his body isn’t up to it anymore then he needs to go.

 

he will be dropped this week and everybody going to have a teary?

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:38, Tracca said:

Why is everyone using his knee as an excuse?

 

this is the reason he shouldn’t be playing. If his body isn’t up to it anymore then he needs to go.

 

he will be dropped this week and everybody going to have a teary?

Because his knee is a very valid excuse for why he’s not the player he once was. To call him soft when he’s playing in pain and risking further injury is absolutely a pathetic call from someone sitting in the comfort of their home behind a keyboard. 

Why is he playing? I’ll let you work it out. 

Hint: it’s because he is the smartest and most effective key forward we have in terms of bringing ball to ground, leading and creating space, and not getting out marked. Even with a bung knee. 
 

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:38, Tracca said:

Why is everyone using his knee as an excuse?

 

this is the reason he shouldn’t be playing. If his body isn’t up to it anymore then he needs to go.

 

he will be dropped this week and everybody going to have a teary?

I agree. I would say the main reason he is being played still is because of his size. At 200cm there aren't many other options for genuine size in marking contests. JVR is 193 and competes well but he's best at marking on the run/moving. Ben Brown is able to get those long wobbly arms up in stationary marking contests to bring it to ground which is only ever what is being coached.

I would say when Grundy returns, Brown will come out. Is this the best option? Who knows but they can't keep playing Brown with his inability to move freely around the ground.

Fair to say BBB hasn’t been at his best since coming back in, but he takes heat off JVR, runs good patterns, creates space and brings the ball to ground. 

Will he be best 22 come finals? Maybe not, but “soft”? Unless you’ve kicked 3 in an AFL flag maybe show some respect to a premiership player 

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Fromgotowoewodin

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:46, Jaded No More said:

Because his knee is a very valid excuse for why he’s not the player he once was. To call him soft when he’s playing in pain and risking further injury is absolutely a pathetic call from someone sitting in the comfort of their home behind a keyboard. 

Why is he playing? I’ll let you work it out. 

Hint: it’s because he is the smartest and most effective key forward we have in terms of bringing ball to ground, leading and creating space, and not getting out marked. Even with a bung knee. 
 

This is spot on and BB has and always will be a Demon immortal.  Age catches up with us all unfortunately and as you say we don't have an abundance of TFs knocking the door down at Casey.

However, if his injury is impacting that heavily it might be time to seriously consider bringing the Shack back?

He's a similar height and can also provide a chop out at CB ruck contests instead of Roohey.  In pretty good form at Casey as well.

Allows Max some time behind the ball if needed and also Roohey more time to focus his energy / efforts up forward. 

Getting the ball to our most accurate set shot a few more times wouldn't hurt either.

Edited July 24, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:38, Tracca said:

Why is everyone using his knee as an excuse?

 

this is the reason he shouldn’t be playing. If his body isn’t up to it anymore then he needs to go.

 

he will be dropped this week and everybody going to have a teary?

‘Have a teary’? 

Why do you think he is playing? Let’s flip that around; Goodwin comes up to you and tells you to wipe your nose, close your mouth lest the flies get in, and asks you why you think he is playing. What do you say?

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:49, Young Blood said:

I agree. I would say the main reason he is being played still is because of his size. At 200cm there aren't many other options for genuine size in marking contests. JVR is 193 and competes well but he's best at marking on the run/moving. Ben Brown is able to get those long wobbly arms up in stationary marking contests to bring it to ground which is only ever what is being coached.

I would say when Grundy returns, Brown will come out. Is this the best option? Who knows but they can't keep playing Brown with his inability to move freely around the ground.

Yeah I think you are right re Grundy mate. 
 

I just want our chf to actually compete, not just bring the ball to ground….. take you know a pack mark every now and then :)

hopefully Grundy can become something 

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:56, Fromgotowoewodin said:

Fair to say BBB hasn’t been at his best since coming back in, but he takes heat off JVR, runs good patterns, creates space and brings the ball to ground. 

Will he be best 22 come finals? Maybe not, but “soft”? Unless you’ve kicked 3 in an AFL flag maybe show some respect to a premiership player 

But he is soft? I kicked 1 in an afl game not in a flag tho :)

  On 24/07/2023 at 08:58, Demon Dynasty said:

This is spot on and BB has and always will be a Demon immortal.  Age catches up with us all unfortunately and as you say we don't have an abundance of TFs knocking the door down at Casey.

However, if his injury is inpacting that heavily it might be time to seriously consider bringing the Shack back?

He's a similar height and can also provide a chop out at CB ruck contests instead of Roohey.  In pretty good form at Casey as well.

Allows Max some time behind the ball if needed and also Roohey more time to focus his energy / efforts up forward. 

Getting the ball to our most accurate set shot a few more times wouldn't hurt either.

100%
 

sometimes the rose coloured glasses of our demon faithful need to come off every now and then.

 

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:08, Tracca said:

But he is soft? I kicked 1 in an afl game not in a flag tho :)

So you know it’s not easy, 350+ afl goals don’t come by accident. 

No one’s saying he’s not droppable, but even less than 100% fit he’s the best answer we’ve got right now and he’s giving it a crack. If the club thought Schache could do the job he would’ve been tried more than 1 game this year. 

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:08, Tracca said:

But he is soft? I kicked 1 in an afl game not in a flag tho :)

Put a name to yourself or are you a keyboard warrior? We can then pick apart aspects of your game too. 

 

Brown has his deficiencies and he is clearly impacted by his knee issues which are fairly well known. He's close to the end. That doesn't mean he is soft. 

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:37, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

Put a name to yourself or are you a keyboard warrior? We can then pick apart aspects of your game too. 

 

Brown has his deficiencies and he is clearly impacted by his knee issues which are fairly well known. He's close to the end. That doesn't mean he is soft. 

Looks like we can all have our opinions :)

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:33, Fromgotowoewodin said:

So you know it’s not easy, 350+ afl goals don’t come by accident. 

No one’s saying he’s not droppable, but even less than 100% fit he’s the best answer we’ve got right now and he’s giving it a crack. If the club thought Schache could do the job he would’ve been tried more than 1 game this year. 

Will be interesting to see if we try Love schache again.

 

tbh id rather someone fully fit and trying than someone on one leg.

time will tell!

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:43, Tracca said:

Looks like we can all have our opinions :)

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  On 24/07/2023 at 09:45, OutOfTheCentre21 said:

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Lol enjoy your night:)

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:43, Tracca said:

Looks like we can all have our opinions :)

Yep, just like [censored] holes - everybody has them.

Some stink more than others tho

  On 23/07/2023 at 11:57, layzie said:

Had higher hopes for Brown today, wasn't able to get many good leading patterns going. 

He didn't take a mark in the forward 50, but did have a goal assist. Disappointingly he goes up one handed too often when going for a mark and the ball rebounds too quickly.

  On 24/07/2023 at 09:51, samcantstandya said:

He didn't take a mark in the forward 50, but did have a goal assist. Disappointingly he goes up one handed too often when going for a mark and the ball rebounds too quickly.

@rpfc see not just me champ