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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 5 , 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

May leap frogs Clarry to take the lead (just) for the first time in season 2022.  Tracc up two places from last week into 3rd and Viney jumps three places into 4th, neck and neck with Harmes to round out the top 5.  Pretty sure both Jackson and Maxy would be ahead of Viney & Harmes if hit outs to advantage could somehow be captured.

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
Steven May 4.575 1 3.926 16.53 3 2
C Oliver 4.525 2 5.258 -13.94 1 -1
C Petracca 4.400 3 4.041 8.88 2 -1
Jack Viney 4.045 4 3.171 27.56 8 4
J Harmes 4.000 5 3.520 13.64 6 1
A Brayshaw 3.890 6 2.836 37.17 12 6
L Jackson # 3.600 7 2.355 52.87 21 14
Jake Bowey 3.475 8 2.881 20.62 11 3
Max Gawn # 3.370 9 3.439 -2.01 7 -2
Ed Langdon 3.215 10 3.092 3.98 9 -1
Alex N-Bullen 3.185 11 2.388 33.38 19 8
J Jordon 3.160 12 2.908 8.67 10 -2
T Sparrow 2.920 13 2.023 44.34 28 15
T Rivers 2.531 14 2.658 -4.78 13 -1
Joel Smith 2.367 15 1.375 72.12 32 17
Ben Brown 2.175 16 1.855 17.25 30 14
Jake Lever 2.063 17 3.661 -43.65 5 -12
A Tomlinson 1.956 18 2.475 -20.97 16 -2
B Fritsch  1.865 19 2.155 -13.46 25 6
T Bedford* 1.825 20 - - - -
S Weideman 1.817 21 1.055 72.23 27 6
C Spargo 1.770 22 2.068 -14.41 27 5
Jayden Hunt 1.570 23 2.597 -39.55 14 -9
T McDonald # 1.530 24 2.516 -39.19 15 -9
K Pickett 1.390 25 2.378 -41.55 20 -5
Average Team Score - Top 22 66.73   67.23 -0.75    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

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Round 6, 2022 MCG (Anzac Eve) - Tigers vs Demons

Even with so many missed opportunities last night's team score was a massive 71.40 which was 6% above the average team score from season 2021!   Pretty much matching our best score from all rounds last season which strangely enough was also this same Rnd 6 vs The Tigers @ 71.93  Also bettering our Grand Final performance of 69.50 for the second week running.

However, the conversion rate was a massive 47% less than last week (76%) at a pretty ordinary 29%.

Clarry returns to the top this round with 27 effectives @ 65.90% efficiency, 2 one percenters, 13 clearances (next best was Prestia with 6 and for us Sparrow with 5), 3 rebounds, 9 inside 50s, 3 tackles (one inside 50), 10 score involvements (equal second best for us on the night alongside Tracc with ANB having the most with 11.  The best on the night the Tiger's Vlastuin with 13), 4 intercepts, 684 meters gained and a moderate 5 turnovers.

A fabulous game from Lingers as well posting a massive score (for this role / position) of 5.45

Very impressive (statistically) first up result from Dunstan to finish inside the top 10!

Top 5 Meters gained (Demons).... Clarry 684 (second behind Short of the Tigers who had a massive 763), Langdon 599, Sparrow 489, Tracc 437 & May 413

Player Score Rank
C Oliver 6.825 1
Ed Langdon 5.450 2
A Brayshaw 4.400 3
Jake Bowey 4.400 3
Steven May 4.225 5
C Petracca 4.200 6
L Dunstan 4.150 7
Trent Rivers 3.875 8
Alex N-Bullen 3.325 9
H Petty 3.325 9
Luke Jackson 3.125 11
J Harmes 3.100 12
J Jordon 3.100 12
T Sparrow 3.075 14
Max Gawn 2.825 15
C Spargo 2.350 16
Jayden Hunt 2.000 17
B Fritsch 1.975 18
S Weideman 1.600 19
Joel Smith 1.550 20
K Pickett 1.300 21
Ben Brown 1.225 22
Team Score 71.40  
Top 6 29.50  
Bottom 6 9.65  

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 6, 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 4.908 1 5.258 -6.66 1 0
Steven May 4.517 2 3.926 15.05 3 1
C Petracca 4.367 3 4.041 8.07 2 -1
L Dunstan* 4.150 4 - - - -
Jack Viney 4.045 5 3.171 27.56 8 3
A Brayshaw 3.975 6 2.836 40.16 12 6
J Harmes 3.850 7 3.520 9.38 6 -1
Jake Bowey 3.629 8 2.881 25.96 11 3
Ed Langdon 3.588 9 3.092 16.04 9 0
L Jackson # 3.521 10 2.355 49.51 21 11
Max Gawn # 3.279 11 3.439 -4.65 7 -4
Alex N-Bullen 3.208 12 2.388 34.34 19 7
J Jordon 3.150 13 2.908 8.32 10 -3
T Sparrow 2.946 14 2.023 45.63 28 14
T Rivers 2.800 15 2.658 5.34 13 -2
Joel Smith 2.163 16 1.375 57.31 32 16
Jake Lever 2.063 17 3.661 -43.65 5 -12
A Tomlinson 1.956 18 2.475 -20.97 16 -2
Bayley Fritsch  1.883 19 2.155 -12.62 25 6
C Spargo 1.867 20 2.068 -9.72 27 7
Ben Brown 1.858 21 1.855 0.16 30 9
T Bedford* 1.825 22 - - - -
S Weideman 1.763 23 1.055 67.11 27 4
Jayden Hunt 1.642 24 2.597 -36.77 14 -10
T McDonald # 1.530 25 2.516 -39.19 15 -10
K Pickett 1.375 26 2.378 -42.18 20 -6
Average Team Score - Top 22 69.55   67.23 3.45    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Round 7, 2022 MCG - Demons vs Hawks

Maxy BOG for the second week running for mine with Tracc just nudging him out for the No.1 place on these tables.

Would usually add approx 0.75 to Maxy's score as a rough estimate for hit outs to advantage (with that many hit outs anyway).  This would bring him up on par with Clarry and just a tad behind Tracc with a score of 5.50 tonight.

Tracc's top of the table on here included... 26 effectives @ 83.9% efficiency, 2 marks inside 50, 3 clearances (Maxy the most for us with 9!), 3 rebounds, 8 inside 50s (equal with Clarry...some pretty wasteful entries from both though from memory?), 2 tackles, 10 score involvements, 637 meters gained (second only to Maysie), a moderate 4 turnovers plus a goal.

Really loved Bowza's first half tonight and aside from a few too many turnovers afterwards i thought he played another VG game.  Shout out to Weid for his third quarter ruck effort in the middle.  Some very nice tap work i thought and managed to get more involved after a pretty quiet first half.  I also thought plugger Mac really stepped up in the third and showed he still has some value to add.  Just wish he had of let the Harmes goal go through.  Would have been in the goals of the week for sure.

Player Score Rank
C Petracca 5.625 1
C Oliver 5.500 2
Max Gawn # 4.750 3
A Brayshaw 4.100 4
Steven May 3.950 5
J Jordon 3.675 6
Jack Viney 3.325 7
Jake Bowey 2.975 8
T McDonald # 2.775 9
Ben Brown 2.750 10
J Harmes 2.500 11
L Dunstan 2.325 12
Jake Lever 2.250 13
T Bedford 2.250 13
T Rivers 2.050 15
B Fritsch 1.900 16
J Melksham 1.825 17
J Hunt 1.625 18
Joel Smith< (59% TOG) 1.625 18
Charlie Spargo 1.550 20
Sam Weideman # 1.500 21
Ed Langdon  1.350 22
K Chandler> (16% TOG) 0.550 23
Team Score 62.18  
Top 6 27.60  
Bottom 6 9.48  

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 7 , 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 4.993 1 5.258 -5.04 1 0
C Petracca 4.546 2 4.041 12.50 2 0
Steven May 4.436 3 3.926 12.99 3 0
A Brayshaw 3.993 4 2.836 40.80 12 8
Jack Viney 3.925 5 3.171 23.78 8 3
J Harmes 3.539 6 3.520 0.54 6 0
Jake Bowey 3.536 7 2.881 22.74 11 4
L Jackson # 3.521 8 2.355 49.51 21 13
Max Gawn # 3.489 9 3.439 1.45 7 -2
H Petty* 3.325 10 2.086 59.40 26 16
Ed Langdon 3.268 11 3.092 5.69 9 -2
L Dunstan 3.238 12 - - - -
Alex N-Bullen 3.208 13 2.388 34.34 19 6
T Sparrow 2.946 14 2.023 45.63 28 14
Jake Lever 2.770 15 3.661 -24.34 5 -10
T Rivers 2.675 16 2.658 0.64 13 -3
J Jordon 2.604 17 2.908 -10.45 10 -7
Ben Brown 2.081 18 1.855 12.18 30 12
T Bedford 2.038 19 - - - -
Joel Smith 1.957 20 1.375 42.33 32 12
A Tomlinson 1.956 21 2.475 -20.97 16 -5
Jayden Hunt 1.936 22 2.597 -25.45 14 -8
Bayley Fritsch 1.886 23 2.155 -12.48 25 2
J Melksham* 1.825 24 1.853 -1.51 31 7
C Spargo 1.821 25 2.068 -11.94 27 2
T McDonald # 1.738 26 2.516 -30.92 15 -11
S Weideman # 1.710 27 1.055 62.09 27 0
K Pickett 1.375 28 2.378 -42.18 20 -8
Average Team Score - Top 22 69.98   67.23 4.09    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

 

Player Focus (averages from both seasons)...

#36          K Pickett 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 6.00 3.00 -50.0
UP 6.27 5.83 -7.0
ED 7.64 5.33 -30.2
DE% 61.79 67.22 5.4
CM 0.14 0.00 -
Mi50 1.09 1.00 -8.3
1% 0.91 0.83 -8.3
CL 1.05 0.17 -84.1
R50 0.36 0.33 -8.3
i50 2.59 1.50 -42.1
T 3.68 3.67 -0.4
Si 5.27 2.67 -49.4
MG 227.05 143.50 -36.8
TO 2.09 2.33 11.6
ITC 1.45 0.50 -65.6
T50 1.64 2.33 42.6
TOG% 77.18 79.00 1.8
G 1.59 1.00 -37.1

 

#29              J Hunt 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 4.50 3.14 -30.2
UP 10.44 8.14 -22.0
ED 11.11 8.00 -28.0
DE% 79.31 68.09 -14.1
CM 0.17 0.29 71.4
Mi50 0.06 0.00

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1% 1.22 4.43 262.3
CL 0.67 0.14 -78.6
R50 2.50 2.29 -8.6
i50 3.11 1.29 -58.7
T 2.72 1.57 -42.3
Si 3.00 2.00 -33.3
MG 327.44 238.57 -27.1
TO 3.17 2.86 -9.8
ITC 4.89 4.57 -6.5
T50 0.06 0.00 -
TOG% 82.83 84.57 2.1
G 0.11 0.00

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#6                    L Jackson 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 6.48 8.00 23.5
UP 6.81 7.83 15.0
ED 9.90 12.50 26.2
DE% 73.28 83.93 14.5
CM 0.90 1.67 84.2
Mi50 0.81 0.67 -17.6
1% 1.52 2.00 31.3
CL 1.48 2.17 46.8
R50 0.33 0.83 150.0
i50 1.33 1.67 25.0
T 1.95 2.83 45.1
Si 4.43 5.17 16.7
MG 117.05 145.83 24.6
TO 2.19 1.00 -54.3
ITC 1.38 3.00 117.2
T50 0.67 0.67 0.0
TOG% 75.43 77.17 2.3
G 0.71 0.83 16.7

 

#26                    S Weideman 2021 2022 % Change 
CP 4.60 5.00 8.7
UP 3.20 3.60 12.5
ED 4.00 5.60 40.0
DE% 55.20 68.38 13.2
CM 1.00 1.40 40.0
Mi50 1.60 1.60 0.0
1% 1.00 0.20 -80.0
CL 0.00 0.20 -
R50 0.00 0.20 -
i50 0.80 1.00 25.0
T 1.80 1.20 -33.3
Si 3.20 4.00 25.0
MG 103.00 102.80 -0.2
TO 2.20 1.40 -36.4
ITC 0.60 0.80 33.3
T50 0.40 0.40 0.0
TOG% 74.20 74.20 0.0
G 0.60 1.80 200.0
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In another thread Watson 11 quoted a stat that we are 16th in tackles for the year.  From your data, any individuals standing out in changes from 21, or have other teams just gone past us?

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On 5/4/2022 at 11:55 AM, buck_nekkid said:

In another thread Watson 11 quoted a stat that we are 16th in tackles for the year.  From your data, any individuals standing out in changes from 21, or have other teams just gone past us?

Yes, last year we were 1st in tackles and 1st in tackles inside 50, this year 16th and =4th.

Here are the average tackles per match this year compared to last year (values in brackets are the number matches played):

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Player stats: https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats.html

Team stats: https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats_team.html

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It is not the sort of drop off that you expect from a defensive oriented team.

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On 5/4/2022 at 11:55 AM, buck_nekkid said:

In another thread Watson 11 quoted a stat that we are 16th in tackles for the year.  From your data, any individuals standing out in changes from 21, or have other teams just gone past us?

 

11 hours ago, DeeZone said:

It is not the sort of drop off that you expect from a defensive oriented team.

While the (general) tackle stat is one indicator of pressure and sure we are well off our overall position last year, i would not discount that this might be by design vs an actuall drop off.

By design i mean the FD may have asked for a certain level / system to be played and met by the boys.  Given our results/ladder position we would appear to have well and truly implememted / met the level & methods being asked so far.

Some of these aspects being asked might be more critical to efficiency of ball usage and movement out of & away from stoppage/congestion.  Including efficiency of transition off HB such as cleaner ball use, utilising space a tad better, presenting to the right places & effective delivery etc.

Defensively the FD might be asking a tad less of most players from a general tackle count at this early phase of the season....preferring instead to build and bring the heat slowly as the season progesses, ensuring more players have more left in the tank for some of the bigger matches to come??

Also if the boys are turning the wick up on efricency of ball movement, winning contested at a high level et al then it might also explain the lower general tackle count vs 2021 as we are in possession much more of the time??  The time in possesion stat might be handy here!

In a defensive aspect it would appear we are keeping the forward half pressure up by the looks of the inside 50 tackle count vs last season or at least, not very far off our best of last season.

Pressure acts inside 50 (averages) and scores from turnovers inside 50 would also be interesting to know vs last season.

While it is a fact the general tackle stat is off i would like to think this has more to do with good management and well designed playing styles/methods & executions (uncluding talent) vs a lack of willingness from some (or many) players to bring enough heat till now. 

It would be interesting to compare the tackle averages pre bye vs roughly 6 to 8 rounds post the bye and see how we sit both individually and in a team averages sense vs the rest of the comp.

All up we are leading in so many other key aspects of the game.

+20 in stoppage clearances the last two weeks one nice example.

No.1 in contested possession averages differential as per 2021.

Improved one place in uncontested possessions differential from 7th in 2021 to 6th at the moment.

No.1 in meters gained differential as per 2021.

Average meters gained is up by 200 meters a game vs 2021.

Obviously Sam Mitchell saw this part as a huge asset he needed to try and curb as much as possible which he did successfully last week by locking down Lingers who had only 178 meters gained vs a massive 599 the previous week vs the Tiges.  In a team sense we went from 6305 meters to 5960 vs the Hawks.

My only concern might be that i am wrong about all of the design aspects above and maybe, just maybe, a few too many  players are coasting a little too easy on the pressure front (aside from what happens inside 50!??) and might be leaning a little too much on our amazing defensive linemen & zoning system to always save the day.

Hopefully not the latter and would be very surprised if this were the case.

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The way the record tackles isn't always consistent with what supporters expect either. The official definition is:

Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal.

And Effective Disposals are defined as:

A handball to a teammate that hits the intended target; or

A kick of more than 40 metres to a 50/50 contest or better for the team or a kick of less than 40 metres that results in the intended target retaining possession.

So if you grab and take someone to ground or spin then around and around, but they handball off, it isn't recorded as a tackle. This happens a lot in close quarters.

If they slap it on the boot as you tackle and it goes 40 m it probably isn't a tackle.

If you gang tackle, everyone involved gets a stat.

 

So it is possible we are creating pressure without getting credited with tackles. Corralling players into ineffective disposal perhaps. Or tackling players unsuccessfully (they handball off but still creates pressure) and then the final player fumbles without the tackle being applied. Or perhaps we are starting out of the contest and having one person tackles instead of 2 or 3 person tackles.

Unfortunately, it's a case of "they don't give us the real stats".

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3 hours ago, deanox said:

The way the record tackles isn't always consistent with what supporters expect either. The official definition is:

Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal.

And Effective Disposals are defined as:

A handball to a teammate that hits the intended target; or

A kick of more than 40 metres to a 50/50 contest or better for the team or a kick of less than 40 metres that results in the intended target retaining possession.

So if you grab and take someone to ground or spin then around and around, but they handball off, it isn't recorded as a tackle. This happens a lot in close quarters.

If they slap it on the boot as you tackle and it goes 40 m it probably isn't a tackle.

If you gang tackle, everyone involved gets a stat.

 

So it is possible we are creating pressure without getting credited with tackles. Corralling players into ineffective disposal perhaps. Or tackling players unsuccessfully (they handball off but still creates pressure) and then the final player fumbles without the tackle being applied. Or perhaps we are starting out of the contest and having one person tackles instead of 2 or 3 person tackles.

Unfortunately, it's a case of "they don't give us the real stats".

Thanks, it would be interesting to know which measures the club uses, and how we compare acros the comp…

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5 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks, it would be interesting to know which measures the club uses, and how we compare acros the comp…

The club would have a whole bunch of other stats, which I'm pretty sure champion data records but doesn't release. I haven't seen the stats but I would expect measures like:

Total tackle attempts: self explanatory

Ineffective tackles: the tackle sticks but they get an effective disposal

Broken tackle: physical contact is made but the attacker breaks free

Missed tackle: player tried to tackle but doesn't grasp or gets side stepped or tries with one arm only.

They'd also have data on the types of "pressure act" like corralling a player with a ball, instead of just group them all in as "pressure acts".

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4 hours ago, deanox said:

The club would have a whole bunch of other stats, which I'm pretty sure champion data records but doesn't release. I haven't seen the stats but I would expect measures like:

Total tackle attempts: self explanatory

Ineffective tackles: the tackle sticks but they get an effective disposal

Broken tackle: physical contact is made but the attacker breaks free

Missed tackle: player tried to tackle but doesn't grasp or gets side stepped or tries with one arm only.

They'd also have data on the types of "pressure act" like corralling a player with a ball, instead of just group them all in as "pressure acts".

 

9 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks, it would be interesting to know which measures the club uses, and how we compare acros the comp…

Yeh Deanox has pretty much covered the fact that club's analysts (i would guess more so than coaches / line coaches) would be drilling down with more detailed specifics vs the basics we see.

Would be surprised if the old 'tackle stat' is used much at all.  The "effective tackles" stat superseded that many years ago is my understanding.

One of the non public ones i would love to get hold of is the player kick rating showing how effective player's are at hitting up targets under various match situations & pressure ratios.

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Round 8, 2022 MCG - Demons vs Saints

You can't keep a good man down!  Lingers bounces back with his highest score on these tables since joining the club.  Beating his next highest two weeks ago vs the Tigers (5.45)

Let's have a quick look at how he accumulated that amazing score today...

31 Effectives @ 79.5% efficiency (AFL average approx 73%), 1 mark inside 50, 2 clearances, 4 rebounds, 6 inside 50s, 3 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 intercepts, only 4 turnovers and a pretty big 566 meters gained (only 3rd behind Tracc on 629 & Sinclair for the Saints with 610).

Top 5 Meters gained for the MFC;  Tracc 629, Langdon 566, Gus 496, Harmes 467 & Clarry 355

Player Score Rank
C Oliver 6.325 1
Ed Langdon 6.100 2
C Petracca 4.000 3
A Brayshaw 3.875 4
T Sparrow 3.725 5
Jake Lever 3.350 6
Steven May 3.325 7
J Harmes 3.300 8
K Pickett 3.125 9
H Petty 2.950 10
J Jordon 2.625 11
Jack Viney 2.575 12
T McDonald # 2.325 13
Jayden Hunt 2.250 14
Ben Brown 2.150 15
Alex N-Bullen 2.050 16
C Spargo 1.975 17
Jake Bowey 1.900 18
Max Gawn # 1.750 19
Luke Jackson # 1.475 20
Trent Rivers 1.000 21
Bayley Fritsch 0.900 22
Team Score 63.05  
Top 6 27.38  
Bottom 6 9.00  

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 8, 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 5.159 1 5.258 -1.88 1 0
C Petracca 4.478 2 4.041 10.81 2 0
Steven May 4.297 3 3.926 9.45 3 0
A Brayshaw 3.978 4 2.836 40.27 12 8
Jack Viney 3.732 5 3.171 17.69 8 3
Ed Langdon 3.622 6 3.092 17.14 9 3
J Harmes 3.509 7 3.520 -0.31 6 -1
Jake Bowey 3.331 8 2.881 15.62 11 3
Max Gawn # 3.272 9 3.439 -4.86 7 -2
L Dunstan 3.238 10 - - - -
L Jackson # 3.229 11 2.355 37.11 21 10
H Petty 3.138 12 2.086 50.43 26 14
T Sparrow 3.057 13 2.023 51.11 28 15
Alex N-Bullen 3.043 14 2.388 27.43 19 5
Jake Lever 2.867 15 3.661 -21.69 5 -10
J Jordon 2.606 16 2.908 -10.39 10 -6
T Rivers 2.436 17 2.658 -8.35 13 -4
Ben Brown 2.095 18 1.855 12.94 30 12
T Bedford 2.038 19 - - - -
Joel Smith 1.957 20 1.375 42.33 32 12
Jayden Hunt 1.957 20 2.597 -24.64 14 -6
A Tomlinson 1.956 22 2.475 -20.97 16 -6
C Spargo 1.841 23 2.068 -10.98 27 4
J Melksham* 1.825 24 1.853 -1.51 31 7
T McDonald # 1.821 25 2.516 -27.62 15 -10
Bayley Fritsch 1.763 26 2.155 -18.19 25 -1
S Weideman 1.710 27 1.055 62.09 27 0
K Pickett 1.625 28 2.378 -31.67 20 -8
Average Team Score - Top 22 69.00   67.23 2.63    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Round 9, 2022 OPTUS - Eagles vs Demons

Some game from Jack!  Very briefly, 24 effectives @ 88.9% (when has Jack ever gone that efficiently!?), 7 clearances, 3 one percenters, 2 rebounds, 12 tackles (3 of those inside 50), 7 score involvements, 5 intercepts and only 3 turnovers.

Kozzie finding some good form and loved the game from Plugga, especially his mark against McGovern in the last quarter.

ANB BOG in the first quarter?

JJ very reliable and overall probably played one of his best games.  My only criticism...missed a couple of obvious handballs (over the top) to a free Spargo just forward of the wing which would have seen Spargo running it in to 50.  Instead JJ ignored the Spargo option and kicked shallow to a forward flank where the Eagles easily defended.  Spargo is our best ball user coming inside so hope the coach reviews this aspect with JJ at some stage.

Another impressive game from Gus.

Top 5 meters gained (MFC):  Jordan 612 (most for either team), Gus 496, Tracc 466, May 464 & Langdon 433.

Player Score Rank
Jack Viney 6.550 1
C Petracca 5.150 2
C Oliver 4.800 3
K Pickett 4.300 4
J Jordon 4.150 5
Alex N-Bullen 3.800 6
Ed Langdon 3.750 7
Luke Jackson # 3.700 8
Tom Sparrow 3.650 9
Jake Bowey 3.575 10
C Spargo 3.200 11
Steven May 3.100 12
Trent Rivers 2.900 13
Max Gawn # 2.875 14
B Fritsch 2.700 15
A Brayshaw 2.350 16
Jake Lever 2.175 17
T McDonald # 2.150 18
J Harmes< 53% 1.950 19
H Petty 1.750 20
Jayden Hunt 1.575 21
Ben Brown 1.200 22
K Chandler> 13% 0.500 23
Team Score 71.35  
Top 6 28.75  
Bottom 6 10.80  

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 9, 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 5.119 1 5.258 -2.64 1 0
C Petracca 4.553 2 4.041 12.67 2 0
Steven May 4.164 3 3.926 6.06 3 0
Jack Viney 4.084 4 3.171 28.79 8 4
A Brayshaw 3.797 5 2.836 33.89 12 7
Ed Langdon 3.636 6 3.092 17.59 9 3
J Harmes 3.431 7 3.520 -2.53 6 -1
Jake Bowey 3.358 8 2.881 16.56 11 3
L Jackson # 3.288 9 2.355 39.62 21 12
L Dunstan 3.238 10 - - - -
Max Gawn # 3.228 11 3.439 -6.14 7 -4
Alex N-Bullen 3.138 12 2.388 31.41 19 7
T Sparrow 3.131 13 2.023 54.77 28 15
J Jordon 2.778 14 2.908 -4.47 10 -4
Jake Lever 2.768 15 3.661 -24.39 5 -10
T Rivers 2.494 16 2.658 -6.17 13 -3
H Petty 2.092 17 2.086 0.29 26 9
T Bedford 2.038 18 - - - -
C Spargo 1.992 19 2.068 -3.68 27 8
K Pickett 1.959 20 2.378 -17.62 20 0
Joel Smith 1.957 21 1.375 42.33 32 11
A Tomlinson 1.956 22 2.475 -20.97 16 -6
Ben Brown 1.946 23 1.855 4.91 30 7
Jayden Hunt 1.931 24 2.597 -25.64 14 -10
Bayley Fritsch 1.867 25 2.155 -13.36 25 0
T McDonald # 1.863 26 2.516 -25.95 15 -11
J Melksham* 1.825 27 1.853 -1.51 31 4
S Weideman 1.710 28 1.055 62.09 27 -1
Average Team Score - Top 22 68.20   67.23 1.44    

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* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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The stats are backing up Jack and Gus’s rise up the ranks in 2022.!

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Round 10, 2022 Marvel - Blues vs Swans

While one match doesn't make a summer i thought i'd take a look at the Blues tonight.  Their team score was 1.9% higher than our 2021 season average and just above our average score this season by 0.5%.  Ok so they didn't play us but they still played a top 8 (potential top four) contender, so it's not like they played an also ran club.

They're certainly flying at the moment and more than likely (subject to injury issues like most clubs) going to cement a place in the top four with a strong chance of playing off in a prelim (at least).

Appear to have a pretty leaky defence.  They also have a pretty inexperienced team overall with no player having played over 150 games tonight & 9 rookies (less than 50 games).  I would assume most of them have very little finals experience as well.

Having said that, experience didn't seem to help the Swans tonight.  With five players having 150 plus games experience although they also had ten rookies in the team (and i believe history says that with ten or more rookies you really struggle to beat a team with less rookies than you in any given match unless they also have 10 or higher).

Average Attributes  
Carlton  Attribute  Sydney 
187.5cm  Height  187.6cm
86.2kg  Weight  86.7kg
24yr 2mth  Age  25yr 6mth
70.4 Games  104.1

 

Total Players By Games

 
Carlton  Games  Sydney 
9 Less than 50  10
7 50 to 99  3
6 100 to 149  5
0 150 or more  5

 

Player Score Rank
Sam Walsh 5.550 1
G Hewett 5.125 2
M Kennedy 4.825 3
Nic Newman 4.550 4
Adam Saad 4.150 5
Zac Fisher 3.900 6
C Curnow # 3.875 7
Matt Owies 3.775 8
S Docherty 3.525 9
P Cripps # 3.400 10
J Weitering 3.125 11
M Cottrell 3.050 12
L Plowman 2.975 13
L Young 2.850 14
T De Koning 2.300 15
C Durdin 2.300 16
Adam Cerra 2.250 17
L O'Brien 2.150 18
L Stocker 2.050 19
J Silvagni # 1.625 20
J Motlop 0.850 21
J Carroll 0.300 22
Team Score 68.50  
Top 6 28.10  
Bottom 6 9.23  

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Round 10, 2022 Marvel - Kangaroos vs Demons

Clarry a mile in front of the rest of the pack...once again!  Tonight's performance eerily similar to that of his performance in this same round last season vs the Crows, where he almost won the game single-handedly.

Tonight's performance was certainly amazing but not quite to the level of the one against the Crows (statistically) where he tallied a massive career high score of 8.40

Let's take a look at some of his incredible work this evening...

30 effective disposals @ 66.70%, 1 contested, one 1%er, 13 clearances, 13 inside 50s, 6 tackles (2 inside 50), 6 score involvements, 5 intercepts, only 3 turnovers and a very healthy 621 meters gained (2nd most on the night behind North's McDonald with 640).

This round's team score (60.45) 10% off our 2021 average (67.23)

Player Score Rank
C Oliver 7.675 1
C Petracca 4.425 2
Jake Lever 3.750 3
L Jackson # 3.425 4
T Sparrow 3.350 5
S May 3.350 5
L Dunstan 3.075 7
Max Gawn # 2.975 8
C Spargo 2.825 9
B Fritsch 2.700 10
T McDonald # 2.550 11
Jake Bowey 2.350 12
A Brayshaw 2.225 13
J Jordon 2.200 14
T Rivers 2.175 15
A N-Bullen 2.125 16
H Petty 1.925 17
T Bedford > 49% TOG 1.700 18
J Melksham 1.625 19
K Pickett 1.450 20
J Hunt 1.400 21
E Langdon < 25% TOG 1.175 22
Ben Brown  0.800 23
Team Score 60.45  
Top 6 25.98  
Bottom 6 9.28  

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 10, 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 5.375 1 5.258 2.23 1 0
C Petracca 4.540 2 4.041 12.35 2 0
Jack Viney 4.084 3 3.171 28.79 8 5
Steven May 4.083 4 3.926 4.00 3 -1
Ed Langdon 3.665 5 3.092 18.53 9 4
A Brayshaw 3.640 6 2.836 28.35 12 6
J Harmes 3.431 7 3.520 -2.53 6 -1
L Jackson # 3.303 8 2.355 40.25 21 13
Jake Bowey 3.258 9 2.881 13.09 11 2
Max Gawn # 3.203 10 3.439 -6.86 7 -3
L Dunstan 3.183 11 - - - -
T Sparrow 3.156 12 2.023 56.01 28 16
Alex N-Bullen 3.025 13 2.388 26.68 19 6
Jake Lever 2.891 14 3.661 -21.03 5 -9
J Jordon 2.720 15 2.908 -6.46 10 -5
T Rivers 2.458 16 2.658 -7.52 13 -3
T Bedford 2.274 17 - - - -
C Spargo 2.075 18 2.068 0.34 27 9
H Petty 2.050 19 2.086 -1.73 26 7
Joel Smith 1.957 20 1.375 42.33 32 12
A Tomlinson 1.956 21 2.475 -20.97 16 -5
Bayley Fritsch 1.950 22 2.155 -9.51 25 3
T McDonald # 1.939 23 2.516 -22.93 15 -8
K Pickett 1.903 24 2.378 -19.97 20 -4
Jayden Hunt 1.878 25 2.597 -27.69 14 -11
Ben Brown 1.782 26 1.855 -3.94 30 4
J Melksham 1.725 27 1.853 -6.91 31 4
S Weideman 1.710 28 1.055 62.09 27 -1
Average Team Score -Top 22 68.28   67.23 1.56    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

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46 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 10, 2022 vs H&A Season 2021

Player 2022 Score 2022 Rank 2021 Score % Change vs 2021 2021 Rank Change in Rank vs 2021
C Oliver 5.375 1 5.258 2.23 1 0
C Petracca 4.540 2 4.041 12.35 2 0
Jack Viney 4.084 3 3.171 28.79 8 5
Steven May 4.083 4 3.926 4.00 3 -1
Ed Langdon 3.665 5 3.092 18.53 9 4
A Brayshaw 3.640 6 2.836 28.35 12 6
J Harmes 3.431 7 3.520 -2.53 6 -1
L Jackson # 3.303 8 2.355 40.25 21 13
Jake Bowey 3.258 9 2.881 13.09 11 2
Max Gawn # 3.203 10 3.439 -6.86 7 -3
L Dunstan 3.183 11 - - - -
T Sparrow 3.156 12 2.023 56.01 28 16
Alex N-Bullen 3.025 13 2.388 26.68 19 6
Jake Lever 2.891 14 3.661 -21.03 5 -9
J Jordon 2.720 15 2.908 -6.46 10 -5
T Rivers 2.458 16 2.658 -7.52 13 -3
T Bedford 2.274 17 - - - -
C Spargo 2.075 18 2.068 0.34 27 9
H Petty 2.050 19 2.086 -1.73 26 7
Joel Smith 1.957 20 1.375 42.33 32 12
A Tomlinson 1.956 21 2.475 -20.97 16 -5
Bayley Fritsch 1.950 22 2.155 -9.51 25 3
T McDonald # 1.939 23 2.516 -22.93 15 -8
K Pickett 1.903 24 2.378 -19.97 20 -4
Jayden Hunt 1.878 25 2.597 -27.69 14 -11
Ben Brown 1.782 26 1.855 -3.94 30 4
J Melksham 1.725 27 1.853 -6.91 31 4
S Weideman 1.710 28 1.055 62.09 27 -1
Average Team Score -Top 22 68.28   67.23 1.56    

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Great work with all the effort you put into this. This thread is a bit like ANB (I'll let you draw your own conclusions!) 🤩

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13 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Round 10, 2022 Marvel - Kangaroos vs Demons

Clarry a mile in front of the rest of the pack...once again!  Tonight's performance eerily similar to that of his performance in this same round last season vs the Crows, where he almost won the game single-handedly.

Tonight's performance was certainly amazing but not quite to the level of the one against the Crows (statistically) where he tallied a massive career high score of 8.40

Let's take a look at some of his incredible work this evening...

30 effective disposals @ 66.70%, 1 contested, one 1%er, 13 clearances, 13 inside 50s, 6 tackles (2 inside 50), 6 score involvements, 5 intercepts, only 3 turnovers and a very healthy 621 meters gained (2nd most on the night behind North's McDonald with 640).

This round's team score (60.45) 10% off our 2021 average (67.23)

Player Score Rank
C Oliver 7.675 1
C Petracca 4.425 2
Jake Lever 3.750 3
L Jackson # 3.425 4
T Sparrow 3.350 5
S May 3.350 5
L Dunstan 3.075 7
Max Gawn # 2.975 8
C Spargo 2.825 9
B Fritsch 2.700 10
T McDonald # 2.550 11
Jake Bowey 2.350 12
A Brayshaw 2.225 13
J Jordon 2.200 14
T Rivers 2.175 15
A N-Bullen 2.125 16
H Petty 1.925 17
T Bedford > 49% TOG 1.700 18
J Melksham 1.625 19
K Pickett 1.450 20
J Hunt 1.400 21
E Langdon < 25% TOG 1.175 22
Ben Brown  0.800 23
Team Score 60.45  
Top 6 25.98  
Bottom 6 9.28  

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Stats really speak tonight.  Oliver best by a huge margin.  Thanks DD.

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4 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

Great work with all the effort you put into this. This thread is a bit like ANB (I'll let you draw your own conclusions!) 🤩

Thx EO...i think! 😄

Let me guess....mostly goes unnoticed but very consistent and reasonably effective!??

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