Mark Williams and Lance Franklin loom as the danger men on Monday against the hawks to be honest i am quite scared they have a habit of smashing us to bits and with wat our defence was on friday night we could be up for some more troublesome times.

the question is who will get the match ups ..... We are all expecting rivers back in..... Perhaps Wheatley as well at the expense of Bell? i think would be a bold move by daniher as he didnt really do alot wrong friday night but i dont think he can go with Franklin.

carrol on williams

wheatley on franklin

your thoughts?

I would love to see Furgi play on Franklin. Second preference to Rivers if he is unfit. Not sure about Williams. That one does scare me a little bit. Whelan hopefully if he is right, otherwise Bell or even give Bartram a crack. He played well on a forward last year when given the task. Can't remember which game.

I would love to see Furgi play on Franklin. Second preference to Rivers if he is unfit. Not sure about Williams. That one does scare me a little bit. Whelan hopefully if he is right, otherwise Bell or even give Bartram a crack. He played well on a forward last year when given the task. Can't remember which game.

If i remember correctly, Bell has played on Williams once before and kept his influence on the game to a minimum.. i'd be willing to give him another chance to do so again on Monday

Off the topic.

Why is Franklin known as "Buddy"?

it was his dads nickname, also lance buddy franklin ,ex wa hockey champ

it was his dads nickname, also lance buddy franklin ,ex wa hockey champ

Cheers.

Off the topic.

Why is Franklin known as "Buddy"?

always good to here wat u have to say

even if it is the most random comment ever... makes me laugh

Does Holland have a match up this week? I think most likely not. I think Warnock and Wheatley could be good inclusions.

Does Holland have a match up this week?

Roughhead and will the Hawks play an extra tall down forward?

Rivers will murder the soft overrated Franklin

Carroll will murder that litle poof WIlliams

i love reading your comments yze_magic, and that was one of the best lol

I would love to see Furgi play on Franklin. Second preference to Rivers if he is unfit. Not sure about Williams. That one does scare me a little bit. Whelan hopefully if he is right, otherwise Bell or even give Bartram a crack. He played well on a forward last year when given the task. Can't remember which game.

haha, ferguson on franklin, why not just give him 10 goals before the game starts...

franklin cant mark overhead, does ok on his chest

his main strength is causing the contest, and getting the ball when it hits the deck, sweeping onto his left and goals/passing it off

warnock would be ok pace-wise, but is he smart enough? bell is the same, put the height difference might be just too much

start off with bell on him, hopefully carroll or holland can crash a pack with buddy in the middle, and soften him up, then he wont put his hed anywhere near the ball, if bell doesnt work, rivers can shut him down effectively (but we then lose his creativity)

whelan starts on williams, bell 2nd option

dutchy takes roughead, carroll will get boyle/resting ruckman

I'm willing to bet Bell will get Williams. How everyone could miss the fact that Bell is a quality hard-working defender who beat him in the NAB cup when he played on him is beyond me. If, somehow, Williams finds form then there's always wrecker. Personally I'm just as happy for Whelan to be let loose a bit to gather possessions.

As for Franklin, it's Riv all the way. But I think Daniher will probably persist with Carroll. Roughhead, if they still play him forward, could get Holland or Carroll. And Croad and Miller can wear one-another all day, whichever end of the ground they end up at. Unfortunately there aren't too many options here. Croad's too fit for Holland, he'd run him up and down the ground. Miller has the engine to keep up with him, but will be up against it as Croad is a pretty good player who likes to hurt us. There's a possibility Holland won't play, and it'll be Rivers - Franklin, Carroll - Roughie, Croad - Miller. Or Holland can play and Rivers can be the extra man. Something he likes to do, and does well.

You can see where our weaknesses are when we are talking about playing miller back.

We really need a good Chb.

i love reading your comments yze_magic, and that was one of the best lol

??? If political incorrectness is funny... I guess. I loved YM's optimism too, and agree that these two have a good chance of holding Franklin and Williams if the midfield gives them some help. But maybe a different choice of words re Williams would have been nice. We wouldn't want to be seen as bigots on this site. I'm sure you meant nothing by it YM...?...

Rivers will murder the soft overrated Franklin

Carroll will murder that litle poof WIlliams

Classic YM

Lets smash them out of the centre & it simply doesn't matter who picks up Softy & Poof!

Playing Miller as the default CHF is an issue in itself. But playing Miller at CHB is even more concerning - especially as we have other options there.

I think he is our new Craig Nettlebeck - not quite anything but looks good on the promotional poster.

And don't start me on the strength of our ruck division or the delivery from our running HB line.

Sheez.

I think he is our new Craig Nettlebeck - not quite anything but looks good on the promotional poster.

You cant stop the Buddy magic..

You cant stop the Buddy magic..

Come back & troll if your 16th placed side ever makes the 8 this decade.

Buddy has done sweet F all in his career to date.

May it long continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a side note Williams managed to score -1 in the herald sun dream team last week.

We have the match ups even should the dorks decide to go three talls.

It is control of the midfield, clearances and stoppages that has me worried.

Come back & troll if your 16th placed side ever makes the 8 this decade.

Buddy has done sweet F all in his career to date.

May it long continue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

50+ goals in 2 years is a fair effort.. AA this year, mark my words..

Oh and we made the finals in 00 and 01, thats apart of this decade..

I think Old Man Rivers thinks you're a Richmond supporter Richo_15. Whereas I know you're a Hawk. You were keen on a Fergs trade last year.

As for Buddy and Co., I think they'll be full of run and confidence on Monday, and it'll be a challenge for our boys.

I'm looking forward to it.

I would NOT be dropping Holland on last weeks form.

If there is no direct match up (probably Tim Boyle) he can pinch hit at the other end of the ground and stretch the Hawks short defence. Also this would allow ND decides to rest White and Jamar on the bench instead of the forward line, so they can come back on completely refreshed and smash their younger less experienced opponents.

As for Franklin, I have it on good authority, from some Hawthorn supporter mates, that he still hasn't taken a mark over his head.

Forget about his height and weight and put someone on him who can beat him on the ground. I would give Bell first crack.

The other way to shut him down would be to close up the space in front of him be using a creative player there who is comfortable going back with the flight and can find space and time with their back to our goals. My first choice would be Rivers. The Hawks coaching staff won't allow this for too long, unless our forwards are killing them and they have their own loose man in our defence. So if they do put someone on Rivers it just means more traffic in front of Franklin; and Williams for that matter.

FWIW On paper their backline has got far more headaches than ours.

Go Dees - let's get on the board.

50+ goals in 2 years is a fair effort.. AA this year, mark my words..

Oh and we made the finals in 00 and 01, thats apart of this decade..

Gee 00 & 01

That would of made Buddy about 12 years old when you last experianced September action.

50+ goals in 2 years. Now there's something to be excited about.

No doubt the boy has potential simply doesn't have the runs on the board @ present to support the 07 hype.

Happy to continue this conversation after Easter Monday