7 hours ago, Turner said:

Ben Brown done

a 1st round pick done or the draft picks in hand obviously outlining our intentions to secure one

official word of APhillips trade or commitment as a DFA

one of TPhillips, Narkle, CCox in a trade

only then will i be satisfied ?

A first rounder is not on the Agenda if u can believe the talk last week What has Ben done for Josh Mahoney to alter that stance 

Pick 31 plus 50 should suffice and another player or a first round pick should be traded for  us to have a hand later today on a class reject from one of the Clubs that are not wAnted.

If we just look at a regular AFL player then Tom Phillips George Hewitt ( exchange for Oscar or dome deal involving Tom) or Cat Narkle or Brodie from Gold Coast. All would be cheap and still allow our top trade ambitions to survive.

BUT I would like Josh  Mahoney To contact JUSTIN WESTHOFF from Port to come out of retirement.

Is versatile and Perfect third/ fourth defender or attack and is good kick fir goal to boot and  great Clubman  with Experience for say  2 years. 

4 hours ago, MadAsHell said:

In all honesty I haven't seen it anywhere outside of this site. I mentioned him after he was delisted and have seen one or two other posters mention his name in whispers.

But he does make sense IMO. Seasoned 27 year old small defender/HB with a bit of pace and good kicking skills. Kind of what we need.

By golly This would have the Oscar haters confused. Who to criticise the most. Why did Pies move him on and NOW why when Roos are having a fire sale would you take Marley?

Lockhart is twice the player and 3/4 years younger and makes far less mistakes than Zmarleh who is a coach killer at worst and disposal not great at best.

We font need half backs we need goal scorers and outside runners oh and Ben Brown!! 

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Unsure about Tmcd.  Happy to see Tmcd stay or go. If he goes, 1- try to use the pick to get Narkle. 2- need Andrew Phillips from Bombers (save ourselves $450k a year) for a future 4th round. But I’m tipping Tmcd stays. 
 

Really want

1- Ben Brown - MFC pick 31 and pick 68 to Kangas 

2- Dogs pick 14 - swap for MFC pick 26,33. Gets Dogs 1290 points  

### End up with 3 picks 14, 43 , 50. ###

Pretty much agree SONS 

7 hours ago, olisik said:

Joel Smith, though hopefully he also is traced  Why Ol would Joel be traded after gettin a deal for 2 years about a month ago???

The two obvious ones are to secure Ben Brown and to improve our draft position if possible (although we know the latter can be done at any time right up to and including the actual draft). 

I don’t have any further hopes or expectations for today but I would like to think that Tom McDonald, if he stays, can revitalise his career and show all the naysayers that they were wrong.

Get side show Bob?

 Phillips, or another out side- mid?

4 hours ago, 58er said:

By golly This would have the Oscar haters confused. Who to criticise the most. Why did Pies move him on and NOW why when Roos are having a fire sale would you take Marley?

Lockhart is twice the player and 3/4 years younger and makes far less mistakes than Zmarleh who is a coach killer at worst and disposal not great at best.

We font need half backs we need goal scorers and outside runners oh and Ben Brown!! 

Have you looked at our list recently? If we don't need half backs, why on earth were we trying to reinvent Harmes as a half back this year?

We have Salem & Rivers who can hold spots down for some time, though they may eventually want Rivers to move to a wing. Hibberd and Jetta are both the wrong side of 30 and that leaves us with either unproven or NQR options like Lockhart, Hore and Smith.

Oh and as for disposal, since 2016 Williams lowest disposal efficiency in any season is 71%, a mark Lockhart is yet to hit in his two seasons.

Given this stage of trade week, I only want TMac to go IF we can secure T Phillips for the wing spot.  Otherwise happy for him to stay, get fit and prove us all wrong...

My wish would be for TMAC to stay and prove everyone wrong, and also for the club to make sure that AVB realises he is a wanted and valued player, despite what was in the papers.

Its quite a day.

Ben Brown,  

2020 draft picks. 18, 19, 28, 50.

risky to trade out future 1st in 2021 but it shows our aggressive and creative style 

hoping it carries over to the 2021 coaching and playing style