Training - Wednesday 5th June, 2019

[Wrecker45 3,378]

On 6/5/2019 at 3:25 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

How does Kyle Dunkley look on the track?

Not as good as Saty

[Bitter but optimistic 22,250]

12 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Yes Uncle I know what your saying. I stopped playing golf about 10 years ago after a year of intensive faulty practice that ingrained a slice off my tee shot and the next approach shot, basically my game was shot. Thus the use by many golfers of a swing doctor to detect any changes in their swing that may lead to errors under the pressure of competitive play. Is set shot goal kicking similar in that kicking techniques can change slightly without the player realising and suddenly, a la TMac, they can’t kick straight? I think so, thus my query about the lack of review of goal kicking technique by our key forwards. Yes they may kick freely at practice but freeze up, tighten up in a game and hook the ball off line.  

golfers have to deal with this to make a living, how to make the clutch putt on payday. They have to stay loose and go through their routine and not think of the consequences of failure. 

Quite so Earl.

Pro golfers are very disciplined in their practice. They will continually hit a specific shot until it is ingrained and  automatically repeatable.

On the irregular occasions I attend training, goal kicking seems a relaxed casual ad hoc sort of exercise rather than a continuous and repetitive process whereby a an attempt is made to master a  very specific skill or particular kick.

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

6 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Quite so Earl.

Pro golfers are very disciplined in their practice. They will continually hit a specific shot until it is ingrained and  automatically repeatable.

On the irregular occasions I attend training, goal kicking seems a relaxed casual ad hoc sort of exercise rather than a continuous and repetitive process whereby a an attempt is made to master a  very specific skill or particular kick.

They are told to relax and practice their technique, that's half the issue in games, overthinking it

Pro golfers get the putting yips, so the comparison is not the perfect one

[Bitter but optimistic 22,250]

57 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

They are told to relax and practice their technique, that's half the issue in games, overthinking it

Pro golfers get the putting yips, so the comparison is not the perfect one

This is my issue Saty.

You may not have read my earlier post about "practise making permanent" but if you are repeating a flawed technique you will not improve. Quite the contrary most likely.

Trac is a fine example, his ball drop is a shocker, and will  never be a reliable action. To what extent do we try to improve technical issues?

I don't know, I'm certainly not an expert in this - but to what extent are these issues addressed ?

[ding 5,126]

57 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

This is my issue Saty.

You may not have read my earlier post about "practise making permanent" but if you are repeating a flawed technique you will not improve. Quite the contrary most likely.

Trac is a fine example, his ball drop is a shocker, and will  never be a reliable action. To what extent do we try to improve technical issues?

I don't know, I'm certainly not an expert in this - but to what extent are these issues addressed ?

They tried to do something with Tracs ball drop at one stage. I remember the footage of him using a tennis ball instead of a footy, to do *something to improve his drop. 

Clearly didnt work.

*something = im not sure what using the tennis ball was going to improve... Ball drop, ball height etc, speed etc etc.

[Moonshadow 17,677]

 

59 minutes ago, ding said:

They tried to do something with Tracs ball drop at one stage. I remember the footage of him using a tennis ball instead of a footy, to do *something to improve his drop. 

Clearly didnt work.

*something = im not sure what using the tennis ball was going to improve... Ball drop, ball height etc, speed etc etc.

I posted this pic in a January training report. Tennis balls are used in training auskick footballers to have careful ball drop (not what you might think, Uncle...). If it lands 5mm from the sweet spot on the foot it will go sideways. It's an approach also used in training teens and adults. Whilst most agree kicking techniques are established by about 15, they can still improve at professional level, otherwise they wouldn't do it at training. Iirc, his ball drop was low and careful with the tennis ball. Go figure!

Edited June 8, 2019 by Moonshadow

[Chook 15,022]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

 

I posted this pic in a January training report. Tennis balls are used in training auskick footballers to have careful ball drop (not what you might think, Uncle...). If it lands 5mm from the sweet spot on the foot it will go sideways. It's an approach also used in training teens and adults. Whilst most agree kicking techniques are established by about 15, they can still improve at professional level, otherwise they wouldn't do it at training. Iirc, his ball drop was low and careful with the tennis ball. Go figure!

Leaning back too far. Foot should be pointed. Head should be looking at the target. Right arm should be higher. 

3/10.

[Earl Hood 6,101]

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

 

I posted this pic in a January training report. Tennis balls are used in training auskick footballers to have careful ball drop (not what you might think, Uncle...). If it lands 5mm from the sweet spot on the foot it will go sideways. It's an approach also used in training teens and adults. Whilst most agree kicking techniques are established by about 15, they can still improve at professional level, otherwise they wouldn't do it at training. Iirc, his ball drop was low and careful with the tennis ball. Go figure!

Oz Open tennis promo I reckon!