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18 hours ago, Sydee said:

last in GF sprint 

 

18 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

Wouldn't read too much into that, Lewis Jetta came second last one year, and he looks like one of the fastest players in the league during games. Half of the runners are probably hung over.

Plus he beat a whole bunch of others to make the final of the sprint in which he came last. So not like he was last out of everyone involved, just last out of those in the final. Think of it as 10th out of the 30 or so involved

 
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I haven't seen hall's name mentioned much here. I know north are reported as his team of choice, but i think he would fit in well at melbourne.

His criticisms are that he is such an outside attacking player, and may not defend or contest hard enough. I feel like we have such a contested team that we may be able to absorb these downsides, similar to the way Sydney and West Coast were able to cover for Lewis Jetta's deficiencies in the contest/defensively.

 

100m results are blunt instruments.  There's a reason the AFL tests at 20m.  Even then someone like Viney who has tremendous starting acceleration may not stand out.


16 hours ago, tiers said:

How about Frost. Tall, strong, can mark, kicks long to position (ask TMac) and runs away from just about anyone. Use him as a target on the way out and as a weapon on the way in.

For those who remember, Richo starred on the wing and, going further back, the toiges used Bourke and Clay, who both played key defence, as wingmen in their heyday.

What a mismatch. Who would want to tag him? Who could keep up in space?

Easy to train and coach. Just tell him to run as hard as he can at the ball and then with the ball.

I really like this out of the box thinking. 

Tackles really well to Frosty. His kicking won't be as precise as we like but he roosts it a mile which can be very dangerous. Defenders hate balls launched into the F50 that travel 5 metres more than they expect / further that 90% of players can kick. 

Agree. It's rare in our game that anyone get's to run in a straight line, unimpeded for 100 metres. That's why Hogan topped the charts for highest speed clocked. I'd suggest that was on a long straight lead out of the goal square up to a wing. 

The really fast players get to top speed (or close to it) quickly, then often make slight adjustments left or right along the way o get through traffic, create an angle, lose an opponent, etc. This slows them down compared to how fast they could go in a straight line but would be much faster than what a player like Hogan could do if he had to do some fancy footwork. 

16 hours ago, tiers said:

How about Frost. Tall, strong, can mark, kicks long to position (ask TMac) and runs away from just about anyone. Use him as a target on the way out and as a weapon on the way in.

For those who remember, Richo starred on the wing and, going further back, the toiges used Bourke and Clay, who both played key defence, as wingmen in their heyday.

What a mismatch. Who would want to tag him? Who could keep up in space?

Easy to train and coach. Just tell him to run as hard as he can at the ball and then with the ball.

It is a simplistic approach and quite sound thinking, too. He has the attributes that you describe, some in buckets, tiers. Just a bit of sound coaching and tweaking needed - down back and / or outside mid. Very plausible. 

 

Fritschkreig.

Genuine marking / intercept ability, cat like skills and ability to evade.  Beautiful reader of the ball even at this early stage.

Best kicking efficiency of any player not playing as a genuine defender... running at 75%.  The AFL average i believe is around 68%? (approx).  Elite by foot and a fabulous option for that most important kick coming inside 50.

Next best by foot that plays a bit of time through mid field is Salem @ 71.3% efficiency.

Hannan has a bit of pace but well below average by foot running @ 60.7% for the season.  Would need to make a huge improvement in this area to have a genuine impact off the wing.

Stretch... FWIW in the 2 matches he did play he averaged 68% kicking efficiency.  A much better indicator is the career stat (38 games) where he averages the same.  Not bad at all and career disposal efficiency is right up there @ 79% (about 6% above AFL average) so he must be elite by hand.  Worth considering but probably not the greatest mark / intercept player which you would think is needed to be effective off a wing.


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