3 hours ago, Choke said:

 

Personally I think anti-vaxers are a bigger threat to our society than Islam.

oh really?   

Just now, daisycutter said:

oh really?   

Well, no, might have exaggerated a bit.

I Don't think Islam is nearly as much as a threat as some here do. It honestly doesn't scare me. It's just another backwards religion, just that it hasn't had a proper clash with modernity like many of the others have.

I Reckon it's going through one now, and we'll be much better off at the end of it.

In an ideal world, I'd be happy if it and any other religion was gone completely. But it's not gonna happen, and it's unfair to vilify the majority for the acts of some fundamentalist morons. And don't say the majority aren't peaceful. They are. We have 600,000 of them here making not many waves at all. We have lots of other religions with stupid things in ancient texts but we don't tar all followers with the fundamentalist brush for them, not sure why we do for Muslims.

10 minutes ago, Choke said:

Well, no, might have exaggerated a bit.

I Don't think Islam is nearly as much as a threat as some here do. It honestly doesn't scare me. It's just another backwards religion, just that it hasn't had a proper clash with modernity like many of the others have.

I Reckon it's going through one now, and we'll be much better off at the end of it.

In an ideal world, I'd be happy if it and any other religion was gone completely. But it's not gonna happen, and it's unfair to vilify the majority for the acts of some fundamentalist morons. And don't say the majority aren't peaceful. They are. We have 600,000 of them here making not many waves at all. We have lots of other religions with stupid things in ancient texts but we don't tar all followers with the fundamentalist brush for them, not sure why we do for Muslims.

That's the most ignorant thing I have seen written anywhere, ever, about any topic.

 

Islam relies on views like that, to spread it's tentacles throughout the world.

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

That's the most ignorant thing I have seen written anywhere, ever, about any topic.

 

Islam relies on views like that, to spread it's tentacles throughout the world.

Funny, if I were to chose a word to describe your post I too would chose 'ignorant'.

5 minutes ago, faultydet said:

That's the most ignorant thing I have seen written anywhere, ever, about any topic.

 

Islam relies on views like that, to spread it's tentacles throughout the world.

No, FaultyDEt, you've just won first prize with that quote. You are brainwashed. 

Just now, Choke said:

Funny, if I were to chose a word to describe your post I too would chose 'ignorant'.

Are you wilfully ignorant to the mass Islamic terrorism that is going on around the world right now, or are you simply indifferent to the people they are murdering on a daily basis? 

Just now, dieter said:

No, FaultyDEt, you've just won first prize with that quote. You are brainwashed. 

The Swedes think like you do.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

 

Can't think why this might be the case. I'm sure a lefty will attempt to slide a Donald Trump potshot in there somewhere.

Just now, faultydet said:

Are you wilfully ignorant to the mass Islamic terrorism that is going on around the world right now, or are you simply indifferent to the people they are murdering on a daily basis? 

I'm aware of what's going on.

I just don't blame Mohammed down the road for it, nor do I want to kick to him out of the country because some people who share an extreme form of his religion are killing people.

My example is figurative, hopefully you get the idea.

 

2 minutes ago, faultydet said:

The Swedes think like you do.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

 

Can't think why this might be the case. I'm sure a lefty will attempt to slide a Donald Trump potshot in there somewhere.

Lol. What a joke of an article.

UN doesn't even use the term third world any more. Article is ridden with proximity fallacies, where you show two stats and infer a causal relationship but show no actual causation.

Just now, Choke said:

I'm aware of what's going on.

I just don't blame Mohammed down the road for it, nor do I want to kick to him out of the country because some people who share an extreme form of his religion are killing people.

My example is figurative, hopefully you get the idea.

 

Islam is a threat to the western world.

Completely incompatible with our way of life.

The appeasers throw the old "dont tar them with the same brush". This only serves to give the bad ones cover.

It is far from simply terrorism related.

Female genital mutilation

Physical violence to women

PAEDOPHILIA

 

These are mainstream muslim beliefs.

Do you agree with them also?

 

39 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Islam is a threat to the western world.

Completely incompatible with our way of life.

The appeasers throw the old "dont tar them with the same brush". This only serves to give the bad ones cover.

It is far from simply terrorism related.

Female genital mutilation

Physical violence to women

PAEDOPHILIA

 

These are mainstream muslim beliefs.

Do you agree with them also?

 

No. Obviously.

As I said before all religious people, even the fundamentalists, will pick and chose which parts of their holy text they find self-serving and which parts they don't. If you want to start a war, a good way to do it is to call on people who share your religion and tell them God wants it too.

Christians don't stone adulterers, and a priest would be insulted if you assumed that he did.

I'm simply extending the same courtesy to all religions.

Just because something is written in a holy text doesn't make it mainstream. Plenty of Christians work on the Sabbath. The issue for Islam is that it hasn't moderated to secular values as a lot of other religions have. IMO it is doing so now.

All religions are dangerous (except maybe Sam Harris's often quoted example of the Jaynes). One in particular is being co-opted by warmongers and fundamentalists, and I refuse to condemn the majority of law-abiding Australian Muslims for the actions of despotic wack jobs in the Middle East.

As I said before, I'd be happy if the entire belief system was relegated to history. But that's not going to happen, and if it is, it will take many more generations than I'm likely to see.

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Are you wilfully ignorant to the mass Islamic terrorism that is going on around the world right now, or are you simply indifferent to the people they are murdering on a daily basis? 

Have you ever considered that invading countries based on lies, or funding 'rebels' to overthrow countries like Libya and Syria might just well be the worst form of terrorism? Do you know how many Iraqis were murdered by the bombs of the 'coalition of the willing'? Did you know, for example, under the last year of the Obama administration the US dropped more bombs in the Middle East than they dropped during all of WW2?

Are you aware of the refugees these kind of terror attacks create?

\I know, it's all because of what's written in the Koran.

 

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Female genital mutilation

 This is not a Muslim practice. Genital mutilation is and has been practiced in the horn of Africa, has been for centuries, and is practiced by Christians, Pagans and Muslims alike. It happens nowhere else in the Muslim world, Christian world, or any other denominational 'world.

Get you facts straight.

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by dieter

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

PAEDOPHILIA

Now, faultydet, you have hit total rock bottom. In light of the scandal about pedophilia in Australia, especially in the so-called Christian world...

Give me a break. 

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Islam is a threat to the western world.

Completely incompatible with our way of life.

The appeasers throw the old "dont tar them with the same brush". This only serves to give the bad ones cover.

It is far from simply terrorism related.

Female genital mutilation

Physical violence to women

PAEDOPHILIA

 

These are mainstream muslim beliefs.

Do you agree with them also?

 

Sacre Bleu, I've just discovered you're a Queenslander. Must be the oxygn up north.

I know, you've told me before, you are originally from Victoria. Good riddance.

Dieter the dupe.

I hope you feel morally pure because you are mentally defending the indefensible .

Id argue paedophiles are all throughout The Muslim world, especially "normal" in Pakistan ,Afghanistan - and are present in larger numbers than in the Catholic Church .

They detest women and the female body.

The clutoris is so evil they cut it off.

The female form must be covered.

Child rape is a basic Muslim tradition.

So is cousin marriage.

Therefore- so is brain damage.

They have that excuse but you have insane theories you develop out of some perceived equivalent in the Western World.

There is none- the West are liberators.War stoppers and knowledge sharers

The beards are cave men.Superstitious zeros heading into oblivion hopefully sooner rather than later.

Its not loony crazy like Scientology.

It"s mental like a rabid dog strapped with explosives.

 

 

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

 

 

 

Id argue paedophiles are all throughout The Muslim world, especially "normal" in Pakistan ,Afghanistan - and are present in larger numbers than in the Catholic Church .

They detest women and the female body.

The clutoris is so evil they cut it off.

The female form must be covered.

Child rape is a basic Muslim tradition.

So is cousin marriage.

 

Cousin marriage is why most European royalty has hemophilia. They must therefore be Muslims because only Muslims marry their cousins. Funny bout that, cos the Ashkenazi Jews also have the same problem, as do Tasmanians, apparently. ( Are you perhaps Tasmanian?)

And, as pointed out in a previous post - detention, Biff, you weren't paying attention, no doubt on Google Map looking for Kurz somewhere in the Mekong highlands - Clitorectomy is NOT  a Muslim practice, rather, it's a traditional form of barbarism practiced in the horn of Africa, by Christians, Pagans and Muslims alike.

And as for detestation of women and the female body, you obviously know nothing about the so-called Roman Catholic doctrine as preached by the lunatic Catholics of my generation.

And, for flucksake, lets just quote the good lord Jesus when he is quoted as saying, ' Let he among you who is free of sin cast the first stone.' We're talking about Pedophilia, man, it's rampant in ALL Christian faiths, Salvos included. Don't you read or hear the local news, or are you so obsessed with finding Kurz you only tune into Radio Hanoi?

Get real Biff, tell some genuine truth for a change instead of frothing prejudice.

10,000 ordinary Brits rallying against Islam.  They're sick of no go zones, Asian rape gangs, and Islamic strongholds taking over their towns.  They're sick of Sharia Courts and a complete lack of integration. They're sick of the welfare these leaches rort from the public.  They're sick of a benighted culture with appalling "values" that are completely incompatible with any civilised society, let alone the West.  They're sick of a twisted political ideology where the protagonists are out-breeding them.

But what would they know ?  Our leftist dopes see no problem at all.  Uneducated fools like Choke, say "nothing to see here".  And I'm being kind saying uneducated. 

Ultimately, it's not worth arguing with leftists.  If they had common sense they wouldn't be leftists in the first place.  

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by ProDee

8 hours ago, dieter said:

Cousin marriage is why most European royalty has hemophilia. They must therefore be Muslims because only Muslims marry their cousins. Funny bout that, cos the Ashkenazi Jews also have the same problem, as do Tasmanians, apparently. ( Are you perhaps Tasmanian?)

And, as pointed out in a previous post - detention, Biff, you weren't paying attention, no doubt on Google Map looking for Kurz somewhere in the Mekong highlands - Clitorectomy is NOT  a Muslim practice, rather, it's a traditional form of barbarism practiced in the horn of Africa, by Christians, Pagans and Muslims alike.

And as for detestation of women and the female body, you obviously know nothing about the so-called Roman Catholic doctrine as preached by the lunatic Catholics of my generation.

And, for flucksake, lets just quote the good lord Jesus when he is quoted as saying, ' Let he among you who is free of sin cast the first stone.' We're talking about Pedophilia, man, it's rampant in ALL Christian faiths, Salvos included. Don't you read or hear the local news, or are you so obsessed with finding Kurz you only tune into Radio Hanoi?

Get real Biff, tell some genuine truth for a change instead of frothing prejudice.

Boy predators and male prostitution is part of Islam.

We know about the JC sects.

We know about what royalty once did.

You know nothing of Islam.

Like Pro said to choke.Have a read and get back to me in a couple of weeks when you have some real knowledge.

You're too flaky to stick to a consistent fact.

8 hours ago, ProDee said:

10,000 ordinary Brits rallying against Islam.  They're sick of no go zones, Asian rape gangs, and Islamic strongholds taking over their towns.  They're sick of Sharia Courts and a complete lack of integration. They're sick of the welfare these leaches rort from the public.  They're sick of a benighted culture with appalling "values" that are completely incompatible with any civilised society, let alone the West.  They're sick of a twisted political ideology where the protagonists are out-breeding them.

But what would they know ?  Our leftist dopes see no problem at all.  Uneducated fools like Choke, say "nothing to see here".  And I'm being kind saying uneducated. 

Ultimately, it's not worth arguing with leftists.  If they had commons sense they wouldn't be leftists in the first place.  

A Britiah has told me the soccer hooligans have formed a truce.

About time.

Hey Biff - do you have any evidence for your assertion about Muslims and paedophilia in an Australian context?

 

I know many Muslims who would be as horrified by it as we are - the people I know seem to adapt pretty quickly to Australian mores, and the next generation seem more or less solid citizens (mind you, I work in a university - I suppose they're the success stories - maybe things are different in North Altona, I don't know, but I've never seen statistics to suggest that there is a problem in Australia - I know there was that single case recently of an iman marrying off a child).

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

Boy predators and male prostitution is part of Islam

Of course it is, never, ever happens in Christian societies, never ever.

You know, Biff, it's just occurred to me - it's called early morning wisdom - your assertions are becoming so shrill and silly that you just have to taking the puss, as they say over the Tasman.

Edited June 28, 20178 yr by dieter

7 minutes ago, Jara said:

Hey Biff - do you have any evidence for your assertion about Muslims and paedophilia in an Australian context?

 

I know many Muslims who would be as horrified by it as we are - the people I know seem to adapt pretty quickly to Australian mores, and the next generation seem more or less solid citizens (mind you, I work in a university - I suppose they're the success stories - maybe things are different in North Altona, I don't know, but I've never seen statistics to suggest that there is a problem in Australia - I know there was that single case recently of an iman marrying off a child).

He's taking the puss, he can't be so stupid. Or, can he???

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

You're too flaky to stick to a consistent fact.

I like my flake with salt and vinegar.

Why has Greece never won a world Cup?

Because every time they get a corner they open a fish and chip shop.

Or, they did once, before the Asians bought them out...

Don't get me started on the quality of fish and chip shops in this country these days...

3 hours ago, Jara said:

Hey Biff - do you have any evidence for your assertion about Muslims and paedophilia in an Australian context?

 

I know many Muslims who would be as horrified by it as we are - the people I know seem to adapt pretty quickly to Australian mores, and the next generation seem more or less solid citizens (mind you, I work in a university - I suppose they're the success stories - maybe things are different in North Altona, I don't know, but I've never seen statistics to suggest that there is a problem in Australia - I know there was that single case recently of an iman marrying off a child).

We've had 12 terrorist attacks thwarted by the AFP.

The Bali bombings were an attack on Australians,Lindt siege and more recently Brighton .

Many Australians killed in London and Manchester last month.

It's a global problem that we help fight and try to control over here.

So far,most of the Jihadis here were so abominably stupid that the were arrested before they executed.

I generally don't invite people into my home when I know that their  core belief is that I am their mortal enemy .

I encourage you to read the Koran as well.

Until you study Islam for yourself you will never understand their viewpoint.