34 minutes ago, stuie said:

Right, so I was actually the one to mention the rookie list... Not sure if you guys read before having a crack.

Wtf

1 minute ago, billy2803 said:

If you could be so kind to point out where I "had a crack"

Righto then...

 

Just now, stuie said:

Righto then...

 

That was in relation to what I said in my previous quote.

Again, please highlight where I had a crack regarding the primary/rookie list options for any potential DFA's, as per your previous quoting of my post.

43 minutes ago, stuie said:

No mention of the rookie list and was said to be a "better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer" (who is on the main list in case you didn't know).

No one suggested putting him on the rookie list...

 

No one needed to mention the rookie list. We only have rookie spots left. 

Why are you talking about delisting someone?

3 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

That was in relation to what I said in my previous quote.

Again, please highlight where I had a crack regarding the primary/rookie list options for any potential DFA's, as per your previous quoting of my post.

That's not what I said you did. I just said you had a crack, you clearly did. Don't try and move the goal posts now.

 

Just now, Night Crawler said:

No one needed to mention the rookie list. We only have rookie spots left. 

Why are you talking about delisting someone?

FMD. Just read champ...

 

8 hours ago, ManDee said:

Just delisted by EFC, is he a better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer? 

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8 hours ago, stuie said:

We only have space for rookies now don't we? Can't see us taking a 26 year old in the draft.

 

 

8 hours ago, stuie said:

We only have space for rookies now don't we? Can't see us taking a 26 year old in the draft.

 

So you were uncertain if we had main list spots available? My god. I thought everyone on here would have a basic understanding of how many spots on the list we had left.

 

 

7 minutes ago, stuie said:

That's not what I said you did. I just said you had a crack, you clearly did. Don't try and move the goal posts now.

 

You quoted my post about primary and rookie lists, then accused me of having a crack. There is absolutely nowhere in my post that you quoted that I was having a crack at you.

And you reckon I'm changing the goal posts?

This thread needs to have some of it's cartilage scraped out and to be hauled off to the Hunt for a Red Hot Ruckman section for a spot of recovery. 

10 hours ago, Night Crawler said:

So you were uncertain if we had main list spots available? My god. I thought everyone on here would have a basic understanding of how many spots on the list we had left.

 

 

Lol the misquoting is getting worse... You don't see how me asking that was leading the OP to understand the list situation?

Wow.

 

14 minutes ago, stuie said:

Lol the misquoting is getting worse... You don't see how me asking that was leading the OP to understand the list situation?

Wow.

 

Stuart, the OP actually asked what peoples opinions of him were, specifically comparing him to Spencer.  ManDee was not saying that we should give him a place on the primary list.  Here is what ManDee asked;

"Just delisted by EFC, is he a better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer?"

Most people that have replied, yourself included, have indicated that if they would bring him in, that the rookie list would be the main and/or only way we would do this.  It's just that you took it that step/s further (shock horror) and implied that because Spencer was on our Primary List, that if we are looking at someone as an upgrade on him, that they would naturally have to go on the Primary List too (your post #22).

McKernan would be ideal for us if we'd just won the last three Premierships and were looking for a replacement for a recently retired forward/ruckman while we tried to win one more. Otherwise, I can't see the point.

Yes from me as a rookie spot. Could be interesting to see how he goes as a FB and take on the the big guys like Hawkins, Walker and Tippet. Also gives us insurance if one of the McDonald's go down. 

11 hours ago, stuie said:

No mention of the rookie list and was said to be a "better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer" (who is on the main list in case you didn't know).

No one suggested putting him on the rookie list...

 

And Stuart, just to further confirm what a majority of posters think, you have stated the above in you post #22 that "no one suggested putting him on the rookie list".  You only had to scroll up to my post #19, which, for your benefit, I have quoted below...

12 hours ago, billy2803 said:

We have spots available on the rookie list if it were decided that we would look at any DFA, so no need to delist anyone, Stuart.

Personally, I think there is zero chance that they would be looking at any of the DFAs for any spot on our primary list (as I think we have made all the changes we want to make), or the rookie list (as I think they will try their luck with a couple of project players that aren't "proven" at AFL level.

And when you were scrolling up, you would've gone past CBDees post #20 (the very next one following my above one), where he/she stated;

"None if we rookie him. We only have two live picks (47&69) in the main draft after promoting Wagner but we have rookie pics."

You accuse others of misquoting.  You accuse others of changing the goal posts.  It is truly baffling.

I think he would be worth a rookie spot, mainly as insurance but he may have some upside. I think he could do the FWD/Ruck role better than Spencer and perhaps better then Pedo.

As a rookie who could we get to fill that FWD/Ruck role that is better than McKernan? So for me it is a yes. 

22 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Stuart, the OP actually asked what peoples opinions of him were, specifically comparing him to Spencer.  ManDee was not saying that we should give him a place on the primary list.  Here is what ManDee asked;

"Just delisted by EFC, is he a better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer?"

Most people that have replied, yourself included, have indicated that if they would bring him in, that the rookie list would be the main and/or only way we would do this.  It's just that you took it that step/s further (shock horror) and implied that because Spencer was on our Primary List, that if we are looking at someone as an upgrade on him, that they would naturally have to go on the Primary List too (your post #22).

 

12 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

And Stuart, just to further confirm what a majority of posters think, you have stated the above in you post #22 that "no one suggested putting him on the rookie list".  You only had to scroll up to my post #19, which, for your benefit, I have quoted below...

And when you were scrolling up, you would've gone past CBDees post #20 (the very next one following my above one), where he/she stated;

"None if we rookie him. We only have two live picks (47&69) in the main draft after promoting Wagner but we have rookie pics."

You accuse others of misquoting.  You accuse others of changing the goal posts.  It is truly baffling.

 

19 hours ago, stuie said:

We only have space for rookies now don't we? Can't see us taking a 26 year old in the draft.

 

 

19 hours ago, billy2803 said:

not someone that's always looking for an argument.
 

Ha!

 

13 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

But that's assuming we don't think some combination of Watts or Weideman can do that job for us in the short to medium term. And it doesn't help us find the long term solution either.

Don't forget Jordan Lewis bringing those 3rd man up skills over to us. Should add a new dimension to our midfield rucking stocks.

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I think I'd rather risk that rookie spot on Keilty than McKernan if that's the way we go.

Ha! Stu's recruiting team have suggested to the club that we should recruit Josh Green and Shaun Mckernan to the club to boost our "superstar factor."

why do we need threads about players we're never going to recruit in a million years?

16 minutes ago, jeck wartz said:

Ha! Stu's recruiting team have suggested to the club that we should recruit Josh Green and Shaun Mckernan to the club to boost our "superstar factor."

why do we need threads about players we're never going to recruit in a million years?

Jeck, do we need a FWD/Ruck?

If yes, who is available? 

If no, you are at odds with the FD and most supporters.

Sorry to post a thread about a player that may fit a need at our club.  And to answer your question, we have threads because we love our club and we want it to improve, we like to talk to like minded supporters and to argue about what is best for our club. Also sorry to have an opinion. Please ignore threads that you don't like and don't impose your negativity.

 

 

Just now, ManDee said:

Jeck, do we need a FWD/Ruck?

If yes, who is available? 

If no, you are at odds with the FD and most supporters.

Sorry to post a thread about a player that may fit a need at our club.  And to answer your question, we have threads because we love our club and we want it to improve, we like to talk to like minded supporters and to argue about what is best for our club. Also sorry to have an opinion. Please ignore threads that you don't like and don't impose your negativity.

 

 

We need a player who plays that position, but an AFL standard one. 

surely there has to be some sort of filter though, we have no spots for a DFA so it's not going to happen.

Unlike what stuie keeps suggesting, we're very unlikely to put any DFAs on the primary list.

35 minutes ago, Jesus Hoganshaw said:

Unlike what stuie keeps suggesting, we're very unlikely to put any DFAs on the primary list.

I haven't suggested that once, in fact I've been the one pointing out the list spaces. But nice attempt at trolling champ.

 

7 minutes ago, jeck wartz said:

Let me get this straight...

I have a different opinion so i am a troll now?

who were you planning on getting rid of to make room for these players Stu?

To be fair to Stuart, he did belt us with the "Green on the Rookie List" line ad nauseam in that other thread, so there wouldn't be a need to delist anyone.  Green would need to nominate for the Rookie Draft though for us to get him that way.

My concern about parking a DFA like Green (or McKernan, et al) on the rookie list is that we could be using that spot to develop an untried, speculative pick, similar to what we did with Wagner, AvB, etc (I could've gone back to the likes of Jurrah, Flash, etc, but wanted to keep it recent).