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1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yep no problem. I was thinking more about getting a bit of banter happening on a Saturday, seeing as how a few people are posting now. A group bet is a good thing to organize for that.

I replied to this post in the post above Wadda but the post didn't quote--up (so to speak)

But as for the exotic 6(?) pick should we just include Behemoth as the first choice so we can all pick something else.

Solved the problem of finding the 6th participant as well. 

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

My only thing with that is there are normally 3 or 4 emergencies in these types of races and usually a few scratchings so probably doesnt get finalized till Sat morning anyway if long shots are selected for places.

If you want to run with 3/7/7/7 for example or 1/9/9/9 then ppl might need to nominate more than 1 horse.

6 picks and then people can do whatever they like with them ... allows everyone to have their own flexibility.

So we just list the 6 picks once the 6 are in.  Any scratchings and again,  allow each individual to adjust on their own terms

Keep it as simple as possible.

Otherwise,  it's too cumbersome and high maintenance.

Behemoth as the standard bearer (?) So we then only need 5 others.  We'll probably be done by Friday is my guess.

I might go 3/7/7/7 but adding my own choice to the 6 (but not publicly)

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    49 minutes ago, Macca said:

    I replied to this post in the post above Wadda but the post didn't quote--up (so to speak)

    But as for the exotic 6(?) pick should we just include Behemoth as the first choice so we can all pick something else.

    Solved the problem of finding the 6th participant as well. 

    6 picks and then people can do whatever they like with them ... allows everyone to have their own flexibility.

    So we just list the 6 picks once the 6 are in.  Any scratchings and again,  allow each individual to adjust on their own terms

    Keep it as simple as possible.

    Otherwise,  it's too cumbersome and high maintenance.

    Behemoth as the standard bearer (?) So we then only need 5 others.  We'll probably be done by Friday is my guess.

    I might go 3/7/7/7 but adding my own choice to the 6 (but not publicly)

    Yes, but thats what i mean....if the person who picked the scratching is not around on Saturday morning or doesnt notice, then they cant select a replacement within a reasonable amount of time. Its never straightforward a we know.

    In that case you can either make the 1st emergency replacement horse their pick instead/try and notify the person concerned to make another selection or make a decision with the punters who are around that morning/early arvo.

    Im happy to go with one out for a first go....might be easier.

    So you want 1 out + six selections (1 selection each)?

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    19 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

    Yes, but thats what i mean....if the person who picked the scratching is not around on Saturday morning or doesnt notice, then they cant select a replacement within a reasonable amount of time. Its never straightforward a we know.

    In that case you can either make the 1st emergency replacement horse their pick instead/try and notify the person concerned to make another selection or make a decision with the punters who are around that morning/early arvo.

    Im happy to go with one out for a first go....might be easier.

    If it goes from 6 nominated to 5 because of a Saturday scratching I don't believe we should be too fussed.  Make it low maintenance

    Individuals can add their own private choice or choices from the 5 left over if there's a Saturday scratching.

    If the scratching happens Friday or earlier the person gets another go if they are alerted and aware.

    Otherwise the thing becomes too cumbersome with too much moderation for any individual (and it won't be me as I work Saturdays)

    Any earlier scratching can be worked the same way we work the best bets. 

    By the way,  with the best bets,  I don't view the choices as a 5 or 6 pick multi as first port of call.  Others can but that's their choice.

    I'd much rather single bets,  a double or 2 and maybe a treble.  I'll still have a coffee on the bigger multi but with zero expectations. 

     

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    @Wadda We Sing ... executive decision time.

    If you're going to be around on Saturday and we get a late scratching,  just add one yourself.  But you're going to have to do it early as people here won't want to hang around or wait too long.  I barely get 5 minutes to scratch myself on a Saturday so I don't want to be checking in here too much.  Not everyone is idle during Covid-19.  Half I know are flat out like I am.  The other half are bored witless. 

    Or just leave it at 5 choices (if we had 6 nominated) ... I'll leave it up to you.  We can worry about rotating the sub choice later on but from a personal point of view,  it won't bother me at all if there are only 5 choices ... I'll just add 1 or 2 myself.

    Preview to follow

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    A total of 9 Stakes races at Caulfield & Randwick on Saturday including 2 x G1's,  2 x G2's & 4 x G3's

    Main interest will be with the G1 Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes (our nominated 'Team Exotic') & the G1 George Main Stakes.  Some great racing to be had

    Randwick Saturday (full card) ... Stakes Races 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8

    Caulfield Saturday (full card) ... Stakes Races 6, 7, 8 & 9

     

    Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes G1 1400m $500k (Field, Form & Odds)

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    George Main Stakes G1 1500m $500k (Fields, Form & Odds)

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    @Wadda We Sing  @Dee Zephyr  @JV7  @Biffin  @rolling fog  @Gorgoroth

    The Team Exotic (for want of a better term)

    • The choices (6) can be used for your favourite type of exotic bet (Quinella, Exacta, Trifecta, First4)
    • A total of 6 nominated horses only in a chosen event (so get in early) n.b. One choice each only
    • If your choice gets scratched you get another choice (once alerted)
    • All choices will be collated at the end of the week for your perusal (Friday or Saturday)
    • Nominate 1 horse only - it's not multi choice.  No pre-empting please.
    • If possible,  nominate your choice along with your best bet (in the same post)
    • Remember,  it's all about the team!

    This week's nominated race is the Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes so good luck!

    Executive decision - unless anyone has any objections,  we can include 'Behemoth' as the default 1st pick.  That way, everyone else can look for some value.  So we're really only looking for 5 more choices. 

    And I don't mind in the least if I miss out first time up ... so go to it ladies and gentlemen.  First in,  best dressed.  I'll make a choice on Friday if all the slots aren't filled by then.

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    Best Bet (Saturday)

    Caulfield Race 4 No.7 Front Page (Win) $3.10

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     Saturday Best Bet

    Morphetville Race 9 #9 - Viduka WIN $3.60

    This horse gave me a fright last week nearly holding off the now 1000 Guineas fav so pretty keen on this one in the last again at Morphetville.

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    Best Bet Saturday 

    Caulfield Race 6 No.6 Agreeable $5(W)

    Number 4 Cascadian as the exotic pick.

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    14 hours ago, Macca said:

    Best Bet (Saturday)

    Caulfield Race 4 No.7 Front Page (Win) $3.10

     

    5 hours ago, JV7 said:

     Saturday Best Bet

    Morphetville Race 9 #9 - Viduka WIN $3.60

    This horse gave me a fright last week nearly holding off the now 1000 Guineas fav so pretty keen on this one in the last again at Morphetville.

     

    3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

    Caulfield - Race 3, n 8 Portland sky $6 W

    Age of Chivalry for the 6 exotic pick

     

    2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    Best Bet Saturday 

    Caulfield Race 6 No.6 Agreeable $5(W)

    Number 4 Cascadian as the exotic pick.

    Some nice value there fella's

    I've already worked out a few doubles and a treble as well as using 1 or 2 picks as place options (in small multi's)

    The big multi only has to cost the price of a coffee but there is always value within all the picks. 

    And there's still a couple/few best bets to come in. 

    This is the bounce-back weekend, I know it ?

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    And we have 3 choices already for the 6 pick exotic (Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes)

    #1 Behemoth (Default Pick)

    #4 Cascadian (DZ)

    #11 Age of Chivalry (Gorg)

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    3 hours ago, Macca said:

    And we have 3 choices already for the 6 pick exotic (Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes)

    #1 Behemoth (Default Pick)

    #4 Cascadian (DZ)

    #11 Age of Chivalry (Gorg)

    I'll throw in #6 Dollar for Dollar ?

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    Best Bet:

    Caulfield Race 7 No 12 Dabiyr $4.00 (P)

    Caulfield Sir Rupert Clark Race 8 No13 Pretty Brazen

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    And we now have 5 choices for the 6 pick exotic (Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes)

    #1 Behemoth (Default Pick)

    #4 Cascadian (DZ)

    #11 Age of Chivalry (Gorg)

    #6 Dollar for Dollar (JV)

    #13 Pretty Brazen (Wadda)

    If there aren't any more takers by 6pm tomorrow I'll post up a choice.

    But I like all the choices so far anyway ... My first 3 choices have been taken up but in such a wide open betting race,  there's a few others to choose from

    So we should have it all finalised by tomorrow evening.  Putting a bet on is optional of course and up to the individual in any way they prefer.

    I'm tossing up between a Tri & F4 but I might split my outlay and have 2 smaller bets on either exotic.

    And a small percentage can still deliver a very decent dividend.

    Thanks in advance for participating. 

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    8 of the best finishes youll ever see. The speed on Winx you have to see to believe..

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    The following is the final list of international horses that have entered quarantine in England and Ireland prior to their flight downunder and arrival on Friday October 2nd:

    1. Anthony Van Dyck - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    2. Armory - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    3. Magic Wand - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    4. Tiger Moth - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    5. Santiago - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    6. Wichita - Aidan O'Brien (Ireland)

    7. Buckhurst - Joseph O'Brien (Ireland)

    8. Master of Reality - Joseph O'Brien (Ireland)

    9. Pondus - Joseph O'Brien (Ireland)

    10. Twilight Payment - Joseph O'Brien (Ireland)

    11. Stratum - Willie Mullins (Ireland)

    12. True Self - Willie Mullins (Ireland)

    13. Ashrun - Andreas Wohler (Germany)

    14. Aspetar - Roger Charlton (UK)

    15. Dashing Willoughby - Andrew Balding (UK)

    16. Prince Of Arran - Charlie Fellowes (UK)

    17. Involved - Ciaron Maher and David Eustace

    18. Sir Dragonet - Ciaron Maher and David Eustace

    19. Tinandali - Ciaron Maher and David Eustace

    20. Mr Satchmo - Chris Waller

    21. Selino - Chris Waller

    22. Almania - Kris Lees

    23. Collide - Kris Lees

    24. Le Don De Vie - Anthony and Sam Freedman

    25. Nickajack Cave - Peter Moody

    26. Port Guillaume - Tom Dabernig and Ben Hayes

    27. San Huberto - Matt Cumani

    28. Skyward - Trent Busuttin and Natalie Young

    29. Sound of Cannons - John O'Shea

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    3 x Group 3 races today at Newcastle (including the Newcastle Cup)

    All decent fields too ... Mugatoo being the hot favourite in the Cup

    But I'm doing a few small F4 bets (testing the water for tomorrow!)

    Go to Racenet.com for the fields & form

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    Might best bet has been scratched tomorrow! 

    So I'll go with the below as my replacement:

    RANDWICK RACE 5 #5 - Probabeel $2.70 WIN

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    22 hours ago, Macca said:

    6 pick exotic (Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes)

    #1 Behemoth (Default Pick)

    #4 Cascadian (DZ)

    #11 Age of Chivalry (Gorg)

    #6 Dollar for Dollar (JV)

    #13 Pretty Brazen (Wadda)

    #5 Superstorm is my choice

    I will post up the list later in a separate post but the other 5 choices are in the quoted post

    The all important numbers are  ... 1,  4,  5,  6,  11 & 13.  Use them any way you wish.

    Edited by Macca

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    So we"ve got our 6 choices for the Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes.  If there's a scratching in the morning Wadda can post up the sub choice.

    And we can all get our chance to post up the possible sub (in rotation) but you've got to be available to do so on a Saturday morning

    Might be best to hold off on having a bet in the race post the morning scratchings.  Just a thought.

    But let's hope we can get a collect first time up.  All our choices have been winning or running on well in good company so we're definitely in with a chance.

    Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes 1400m Group1 $500k

    #1 Behemoth (Default Pick) 7-2

    #4 Cascadian (DZ) 12-1

    #5 Superstorm (Macca) 9-1

    #6 Dollar for Dollar (JV) 25-1

    #11 Age of Chivalry (Gorg) 9-1

    #13 Pretty Brazen (Wadda) 15-1

    Edited by Macca

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    2 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

    Tagaloa not nominated by any of us, I do like that horse

    Don't mozz things Gorg!!!  Don't you know the golden rules of punting (unwritten) ?

    Shoosh!

    Let's face it,  there's a heap of chances but you can't have them all. 

    But I know this,  if we do land a Tri or F4 with these picks (in the right combo) the dividend will be healthy.  Esp if Behemoth is run out of the finish.

    But the big boy is the horse to beat.  It's drawn well and Williams shouldn't have too much trouble getting the horse out in a (probable) truly run race.

    The topweight at 60kgs but the lightweight horses are carrying 54kgs (instead of 52kgs)

    As always,  you need a bit of luck.

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    11 minutes ago, Macca said:

    Don't mozz things Gorg!!!  Don't you know the golden rules of punting (unwritten) ?

    Shoosh!

    Let's face it,  there's a heap of chances but you can't have them all. 

    But I know this,  if we do land a Tri or F4 with these picks (in the right combo) the dividend will be healthy.  Esp if Behemoth is run out of the finish.

    But the big boy is the horse to beat.  It's drawn well and Williams shouldn't have too much trouble getting the horse out in a (probable) truly run race.

    The topweight at 60kgs but the lightweight horses are carrying 54kgs (instead of 52kgs)

    As always,  you need a bit of luck.

    Yeah I know, my bad...

    Might drop $10 on that 6 for a f4, if it gets up 3% should be a healthy return especially if as you said behemoth is the fourth or not in it at all.

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