Trying to be kind.

lol

I have been limited in my viewing of both Patton and Boyd but can say I have watched a fair amount of Daniher and Hogan including watching them both at Windy Hill in the VFL this year. The one thing that I think Hogan has over all is presence. The one thing I am confident he has over all of them is a bit of mongrel.

Yes I think there should have been a weighting score given to the various categories. If we look at the player histories of the likes of Dermie or Wayne Carey,even Arron Hamill, I think agression is a Hugh plus. How would Dermie have scored on this table, under sized, probably little endurance, speed? Not sure! What he did have was aggression, football smarts and the will to succeed. I am backing Hogan at this stage, he meets my criteria that should be a given for all our kids, he likes physical contact. Here is hoping that he can stop jarring his knees and that he re-signs at the end of the year.

I just hope we can keep him.

Jeremy Cameron. The kid was all-australian in his second year.

It's going to be an on-going debate for years to come and I think Jesse Hogan will thrive with the competition.

Ha! Trolling? Surely.

How many did Gunston Kick on Grand Final day, as someone else mentioned Cameron is better than all of them , the 3 best forwards taken in the draft since 07 I think are Tex Walker , Jeremy Cameron and Jack Gunston.

In the Melbourne side I would definately go for Hogan, we have Clarke and Dawes and are not looking for Hogan to play the game the Daniher and Patton will be required to do. I can see Hogan roaming a bot more than a traditionla key forward, a bit more like Franklin does when Roughead plays up front.

I think we finally have the makings of an A grader in the side with Hogan and rcon hw will win a couple of games for us this year.

QUESTIONS:

1. Who will be better in season 2014 (assuming both remain fit) - Hogan or Mitch Clark?

2. Who will be best in three years time (assuming all remain fit) - Hogan, Watts, Clark or Fitz?

Who is the best up and coming Young Gun Forward ???

Actually, to the question posed, nobody has the answer and time will tell. Even then there may well be debate.

Jeremy Cameron. The kid was all-australian in his second year.

It's going to be an on-going debate for years to come and I think Jesse Hogan will thrive with the competition.

Agreed. Is an absolute star and love watching him play. Made most long term AFL defenders look ordinary and has a lot of sh!t in him. Gotta love that.

How many did Gunston Kick on Grand Final day, as someone else mentioned Cameron is better than all of them , the 3 best forwards taken in the draft since 07 I think are Tex Walker , Jeremy Cameron and Jack Gunston.

Gunston isn't a key forward. Gunston is an athletic flanker. Gunston benefited by taking the third tall defender, while the opposition tried to counter Roughead and Franklin.

Gunston weighs 84 kilos and Hogan now weighs 100 kg. Hogan is a key forward. Key forwards are FAR more valuable than flankers. Hogan monsters Gunston like a rag doll.

To compare a flanker to key forwards is stupid.

Gunston isn't a key forward. Gunston is an athletic flanker. Gunston benefited by taking the third tall defender, while the opposition tried to counter Roughead and Franklin.

Gunston weighs 84 kilos and Hogan now weighs 100 kg. Hogan is a key forward. Key forwards are FAR more valuable than flankers. Hogan monsters Gunston like a rag doll.

To compare a flanker to key forwards is stupid.

Everyone put your hand up that thought Watts was going to be a power forward , doesn't matter what size you are dumb ass when you boot 4 goals in a winning grand final side, and by the way he never kicked them from the flank. Just on a side note Hogan's standing behind me with a strap on his knee [censored]

And he doesn't look in very good spirits .

Hogan just kicked the ball to Byrnes as he was running off the ground, he's walking around bouncing the ball, seems to be a keepings off training session, they seem to better focused than last year.

To compare a flanker to key forwards is VERY stupid.

Gunston isn't a key forward. Gunston is an athletic flanker. Gunston benefited by taking the third tall defender, while the opposition tried to counter Roughead and Franklin.

Gunston would have received probably the 5th choice defender not third noting Hale started in a FP and Cyril just lurked around.

Gunston would have received probably the 5th choice defender not third noting Hale started in a FP and Cyril just lurked around.

I said third "tall". I doubt a "tall" takes Cyril.

I assume you get my drift.

How many did Gunston Kick on Grand Final day, as someone else mentioned Cameron is better than all of them , the 3 best forwards taken in the draft since 07 I think are Tex Walker , Jeremy Cameron and Jack Gunston.

Gunston ain't that great.

Watts would have done even better if he had been at Hawthorn the last 2 seasons, being manned by the 3rd best defender.

See how he handles a bit more responsibility with Franklin gone.

Cameron has been great, but he's also had the opportunity to play AFL and prove himself, which the other 4 haven't to date, bar a handful of games for Daniher & even less for Patton.