Dustin Martin

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

So will Caro now retract her scathing critique of Dusty and proclaim him as the reformed prodigal son? Doubt hugely that she'll continue her attack on him now that he's back in the fold. Rarely a harsh word to be said about her beloved Toiges.

Why should she? A 2 year deal is a limp endorsement of an alleged star.....all be it with a mountain of baggage.

FWIW, I am not sure what the Tigers have done wrong with Martin other than re sign him for less than the original offer.

Martin and his associates have shot themselves in the foot with their handling of this whole episode. His manager should be deregistered.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Has re-signed for less than toiges originally offered.....shrewd negotiating skills there for sure !!! what a fwit !!! lol

George Costanza like with his negotiating there lol

[Little Richard 6,262]

George Costanza like with his negotiating there lol

Shane Martin ftw

[Moonshadow 17,675]

Why should she? A 2 year deal is limp endorse of an alleged star.....all be it with a mountain of baggage.

FWIW, I am not sure what the Tigers have done wrong with Martin other than re sign him for less than the original offer.

Martin and his associates have shot themselves in the foot with their handling of this whole episode. His manager should be deregistered.

She canned Martin as a bad influence on the club and gave her blessing for him to move on. She painted a very poor picture of him in this article, where she bluntly alludes to the reason for his mess being "crystal clear"

Martin move best for Richmond

And now he's signed on again for 2 years, with no other club wanting to go near him.

Great spin by the tigers to claim victory by allegedly paying him about 10% less than first offered (big deal), nevertheless, they could not get what they wanted in return for a potential trade. What they did wrong was not offload him and get even a half decent draft pick in return. Hollow victory tigers.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

She canned Martin as a bad influence on the club and gave her blessing for him to move on. She painted a very poor picture of him in this article, where she bluntly alludes to the reason for his mess being "crystal clear"

Martin move best for Richmond

And now he's signed on again for 2 years, with no other club wanting to go near him.

Great spin by the tigers to claim victory by allegedly paying him about 10% less than first offered (big deal), nevertheless, they could not get what they wanted in return for a potential trade. What they did wrong was not offload him and get even a half decent draft pick in return. Hollow victory tigers.

So what's the beef with Caro then? She has painted Martin correctly as a talented but wayward social misfit. And other clubs aren't prepared to take the risk..on the ball.

The Tigers know Martin better than others. And at best they have the chance to get the best out of a talented footballer at a cheaper rate. At worst they have a troubled fool who has the capacity to destroy his career. He has shown himself unable to conduct negotiations in a mature and good faith manner. He has burnt a lot of bridges. If he fecks it up then Richmond can state they tried to support him through his career and did everything but poor Dustin couldn't etc etc..... And it's only for 2 years.

I don't think the Tigers have claimed a victory but negotiated itself through a difficult period with a high maintenance footballer.

I can't see what your hand wringing is all about.

[Demonland 71,613]

She canned Martin as a bad influence on the club and gave her blessing for him to move on. She painted a very poor picture of him in this article, where she bluntly alludes to the reason for his mess being "crystal clear"

Martin move best for Richmond

Awesome article from Ms. Wilson and it just goes to show that a week or so is a long time in football!

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

Now there is on less serious suitor for Taylor Adams. Dusty staying with the Tiges may prove beneficial for us

[sue 9,096]

....So what's the beef with Caro then?

.....

I can't see what your hand wringing is all about.

RR, you must control your desire to defend CW at every turn . Moonshadow's poke at her was not based on the correctness of her assessment of DM. It is based on her being a blatant Richmond supporter, a bias a serious journalist should try to overcome. Read it again:

So will Caro now retract her scathing critique of Dusty and proclaim him as the reformed prodigal son? Doubt hugely that she'll continue her attack on him now that he's back in the fold. Rarely a harsh word to be said about her beloved Toiges.

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[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Hyperbole sue.

[nutbean 8,838]

I cant see it as anything but a win for Richmond

1/ firstly and most importantly they best know the nature of the beast they are dealing with. He is already in their enviroment so they are best placed to manage him (IMO)

2/ they paid under the first offer for him

3/ they only gave him two years which means an inexpensive out if it all goes pear shaped.

The scathing condemnation should go to his manager.

Edited October 1, 2013 by nutbean

[sue 9,096]

Hyperbole sue.

Hey, I might change my name to that

[DemonFrog 1,354]

Has re-signed for less than toiges originally offered.....shrewd negotiating skills there for sure !!! what a fwit !!! lol

Yes but he will make back the shortfall once he releases his new book "How to Successfully Negotiate Players Contracts in the AFL"

As clearly he a genius and us simple minded MFC Fans are not up to the task of understand his logic.

[Moonshadow 17,675]

RR, you must control your desire to defend CW at every turn . Moonshadow's poke at her was not based on the correctness of her assessment of DM. It is based on her being a blatant Richmond supporter, a bias a serious journalist should try to overcome. Read it again

.

Don't bother Sue. You know what they say about arguing with a fool. Your assessment is spot on.

[Machsy 2,858]

I cant see it as anything but a win for Richmond

1/ firstly and most importantly they best know the nature of the beast they are dealing with. He is already in their enviroment so they are best placed to manage him (IMO)

2/ they paid under the first offer for him

3/ they only gave him two years which means an inexpensive out if it all goes pear shaped.

The scathing condemnation should go to his manager.

Did you see his haircut at the Richmond B&F???

Oh dear...

[Moonshadow 17,675]

I cant see it as anything but a win for Richmond

1/ firstly and most importantly they best know the nature of the beast they are dealing with. He is already in their enviroment so they are best placed to manage him (IMO)

2/ they paid under the first offer for him

3/ they only gave him two years which means an inexpensive out if it all goes pear shaped.

The scathing condemnation should go to his manager.

This could be true, the counter says...

1/ they are using up a lot of resources managing a player that looks set to self explode

2/ reports now are they paid 480k, not much less than the original offer of 500k

3/ using a top 3 pick on an "inexpensive out" is expensive (even though we took $cully and Trenners at 1&2)

But you are absolutely correct in that his manager should be condemned.

Edited October 2, 2013 by Moonshadow