How can you say Dawes should be captain? He's played 2 moderately good games after being cut from another team in favour of the Q-stick.

Sure he may be impressive, but to say everyone else should step aside and make him captain is absurd at this stage.

Agreed. He's been here five minutes. Saying he's the obvious choice for captain because of a few well spoken press conferences is pretty cringeworthy and reeks of desperation. Grimes is a worthy captain of this club,

Agreed. He's been here five minutes. Saying he's the obvious choice for captain because of a few well spoken press conferences is pretty cringeworthy and reeks of desperation. Grimes is a worthy captain of this club,

Roos: "Leadership is captains and leaders on the ground directing players"

Agreed, Dawes has been at the club only this year, but he comes from a successful club, and takes responsibility. It was he who said: effort is a given at AFL; it does not need coaching. I have the feeling he has the presence to get this message to other players (see the Roo's quote above); not sure there are any others who can command that.

And, these changes won't be made until the end of the year, if at all. Lets see how it pans out

Agreed. He's been here five minutes. Saying he's the obvious choice for captain because of a few well spoken press conferences is pretty cringeworthy and reeks of desperation.

Terrible post.

The guy gives 110% out on the field, throws his weight around and protects the kids. Not to mention hes a premiership player.

Thats why hes a good leader, not cos of some things he said in a press conference.

With new coach, coaching staff and board for 2014 it would only seem imnent to take the Captaincy of both Grimes and Trengove and just let them learn there trade and develop into quality players. They clearly arent coping with the burden of the captaincy well so Jones Captain and Dawes Vice would seem a much better fit?

Leadership 2014:

Jones- Captain

Dawes- Vice

Clark

Frawley

Garland

totally agree

Terrible post.

The guy gives 110% out on the field, throws his weight around and protects the kids. Not to mention hes a premiership player.

Thats why hes a good leader, not cos of some things he said in a press conference.

Firstly, protects the kids? What does this even mean? What is he "protecting" them from? The big bad opposition? It's a contact sport.

Secondly, he has played FIVE games. He's done admirably, probably about par for what we gave up for him. But there is very little doubt that his comments in the media have raised his profile enormously with supporters. His words have resonated with supporters, and rightly so. He makes the right noises. But you can't tell me it doesn't have alot to do with why his name is suddenly being raised on here as captain material.

Yes he was part a premiership team. So was Shannon Byrnes. If your'e going to strip Grimes of the captaincy and hand it to someone who has just literally walked in the door, I think it would want to be a bigger player than Chris Dawes. It screams knee jerk to me.

I'm not questioning his leadership qualities. Early signs are that he has alot to bring to thetable in that regard. But frankly he hasn't been in the team long enough to make a sound judgement on him as a captain. The way people are carrying on you'd swear it was Jonathon Brown we were discussing here.

Finally, coming from someone who has stated he would spit in the face of Cameron Schwab if he saw him, and who thinks a new coach will be some kind of magic wand that will suddenly turn us into world beaters, I don't think your judgement on terrible posts carries much weight.

Let the MFC only have one Captain next year as two or more Captains is a joke and disrespectful.

Agree that Grimes should stay Captain and appoint as many V/Captains as needed.

I guess the same goes for Sydney then ( last years premiers )?

Captain - Dawes. The only premiership player in the team oozing leadership.

Co Vc - Grimes (goes close to Captain material but prone to injury and butchers the ball too often)

Co Vc - N Jones (the mid field man. Dont argue)

Co Vc - C Sylvia (Needs the responsibility and might relish the challenge. Time to step up. Might go some way towards convincing him to continue on with us next year. Worth asking and offering).

Co Vc - Frawley (As for Sylvia but has earned it IMO. Gets the big role almost every week and often comes away with the scalp. Great for his ego and a nice reward for many years of hard work and effort. Captain of the ship down back).

Co Vc - M Clark (when he's finally fit)

Yeah but, as they say, too many VC's spoils the....oh hang on. You may as well go for it.

I see only two posters who have listed the leadership group in full, and only one has Trengove out of it (the OP), so not sure where you're coming from there.

If you read before my first post you will see that only one Demonlander has Trengove in the leadership post. Thankfully subsequent posters have given it more thought!

Dawes the only man in the team at the moment. Must be captain

If you read before my first post you will see that only one Demonlander has Trengove in the leadership post. Thankfully subsequent posters have given it more thought!

This was your post:

Unbelievable how all posters except one have demoted Trengove completely out of the leadership group! No wonder the MFC is on its knees if this is how loyalty is rewarded!

Only two posters had listed their entire ins and outs from the leadership group, and only one, the OP, had omitted Trengove. Your post had no basis, particularly as i think those who would want Trengove out of the leadership group altogether would be in the minority.

I also not sure what rewarding loyalty has to do with Trengove's case. Has he really been here long enough for that to be a factor? You could make a case for Frawley based on loyalty perhaps.

This was your post:

Only two posters had listed their entire ins and outs from the leadership group, and only one, the OP, had omitted Trengove. Your post had no basis, particularly as i think those who would want Trengove out of the leadership group altogether would be in the minority.

I also not sure what rewarding loyalty has to do with Trengove's case. Has he really been here long enough for that to be a factor? You could make a case for Frawley based on loyalty perhaps.

You could equally make a case for loyalty for Trengove, Frawley and Grimes, not only for the MFC but also for their beleaguered coach. In Trengove's case however I am specifically alluding to him vs Scully.

JT is learning from Ling and has improved since he started just a fortnight ago. Notice his rev up in the race that he's started doing, along with the marked increase in form due to less weight on his back?

Hmmm change Captains.....

that'll fix things

I must admit I cannot see a better Captain for Melbourne than Chris Dawes.

Jones deserves it more than anyone else, Grimes has done a great job so far, Clark was also another potential, but Chris Dawes just "ticks all the right boxes". I am definitely not a fan of any first year player being captain so fast, but unfortunately we ain't a normal team at the moment.

Yeah but, as they say, too many VC's spoils the....oh hang on. You may as well go for it.

WA with the regular number of injuries at this place every year i reckon we may as well too. Need all the back up we can get!