Lol... yeah that's the reason....

Tell me where did I said that's the reason, or learn to read.

The rot started when neeld put watts on brown.

Put watts and Howe up forward with garland and rivers down back.

Nicholson and blease on the ball.

This post is silly.

Magner is a first year footballer at AFL level. Nicholson is a rookie. Spencer is a kid.

Just calling it as i see it

Obviously not watching the game. Don't worry mate, I'll PM you and summarise what you have missed

Really? Magner is our worst today is he? Maybe you should take note of his pressure, tackling, shepherding... There's more to footy than goals mate.

Pretty sure Spencer, Moloney, Bate, Nicholson, Watts, Trengove, and many more have contributed LESS to the team so far today than Magner.

I think Neeld & Craig need the break to get their heads in order. We're being forced to make reactive moves, and it's just pulling the team more & more out of shape.

Agree with the post that said it's now time to ditch the experiments and put everybody back where they're best - at least one of Rivers or Garland to defence, one of Watts or Dunn forward, maybe try Howe key forward. Work out where we want our players to be, not react to where they are making us place them.

the awful truth is that this group of players has zero class/polish between them:

Bate

Spencer

Sellar

Bail

MacDonald

Magner

Nicholson

Martin

bunch of complete hacks really, most sides have 1 or 2 of these in their 22, we have 7 today and thats why we're getting thumped

Yeah, enough with the experimental rubbish.

Brisbane are miles ahead of GWS and they are not going to let us do as we please.

We can't afford to lose games by 12 goals each week. I want proper structures and a better forward effort.

Tell me where did I said that's the reason, or learn to read.

Umpiring hasn't been that bad, not great, but not bad enough to even comment on it, so when you say "we've been bad, BUT..... blah blah umpiring" it sounds a lot like excuses.

Umpiring hasn't been that bad, not great, but not bad enough to even comment on it, so when you say "we've been bad, BUT..... blah blah umpiring" it sounds a lot like excuses.

No it doesn't.

the awful truth is that this group of players has zero class/polish between them:

Bate

Spencer

Sellar

Bail

MacDonald

Magner

Nicholson

Martin

bunch of complete hacks really, most sides have 1 or 2 of these in their 22, we have 7 today and thats why we're getting thumped

Reckon MacDonald has been one of our best so far today actually

No it doesn't.

Yes it does. Ner ner.

How slack is Channel 7?

Tommy Mac has been taken to hospital ......... and all Ch 7 has given us is that "it is something internal" !! What if it had been Jonathon Brown?

Can anyone who doesn't relied on live free-to-air television for their information tell me what the problem is ?

This post is silly.

Magner is a first year footballer at AFL level. Nicholson is a rookie. Spencer is a kid.

I see your point, but do you reckon 2 of these guys have much improvement to come? Nicho has some handy tools and his development should continue but I suspect the other two are pretty much at their limits.

Everything but his head and his heart.

Looks like it.

whats with the nicholson and magner hate hardly been our worst, nicholson has 11 disposals magner 10 been way better than moloney who is supposed to be our best mid, in fact moloney may as well jump the fence and go sit with jones and jamar

Obviously not watching the game. Don't worry mate, I'll PM you and summarise what you have missed

How about you share you wisdom with the rest of us. That's what the forum is for.

Magner is far from our biggest liability.

the awful truth is that this group of players has zero class/polish between them:

Bate

Spencer

Sellar

Bail

MacDonald

Magner

Nicholson

Martin

bunch of complete hacks really, most sides have 1 or 2 of these in their 22, we have 7 today and thats why we're getting thumped

Haha, dont speak so much sense champ.

You are 100% spot on.

You can throw Dunn in there aswell, offers little.

With blokes like those above, we'll never need to deliberately tank, thats for sure.

Reckon MacDonald has been one of our best so far today actually

He has, which says alot in itself.

Reckon MacDonald has been one of our best so far today actually

ive always rated him, but when he has the ball he stuffs it up most times, in this day and age you simply cant play AFL with that defect

I am cringing everytime the ball gets outside a pack, you can just smell a Lions goal. We are getting murdered in transition.

Well wyl and faultydet are into the 3rd san Mig/Red Horse at the local ontrnet cafe in Davao Philippines.

We can't get radio or image so you guys must paint the picture.

Beers are cold girls are smiling...

Have fun over there WYL....Nothing to see here folks.....and its freezing.

No change to the forward/back setups.... WTF?!

geez stef martin could become a really good player if he wants it

I'm happy to keep Garland and Rivers forward. I would like to see Howe play deeper forward too.

the awful truth is that this group of players has zero class/polish between them:

Bate

Spencer

Sellar

Bail

MacDonald

Magner

Nicholson

Martin

bunch of complete hacks really, most sides have 1 or 2 of these in their 22, we have 7 today and thats why we're getting thumped

Reckon Bail is best 22, and Nicholson not far off. The others aren't "hacks"; but not best 25 IMO.