http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...2-19742,00.html

Could we get our hands on it? Come on BP and Bails, get it done.

  Deemissioner said:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...2-19742,00.html

Could we get our hands on it? Come on BP and Bails, get it done.

For what purpose? At what cost?

I think we need to introduce a 'Just Think' campaign for posting leading up to trade week...

  Deemissioner said:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...2-19742,00.html

Could we get our hands on it? Come on BP and Bails, get it done.

How about this for a trade: McNamara, Bell & Pick 18 for pick 8!

I'm sure Port would love that trade!

Offer pick 2 for Boak and pick 8, through in a fringe player if needed. That is the only way we get pick 8, we lose pick 2 but iwould be happy with that. Port might consider to get Trengove

  drdrake said:

Offer pick 2 for Boak and pick 8, through in a fringe player if needed. That is the only way we get pick 8, we lose pick 2 but iwould be happy with that. Port might consider to get Trengove

Boak is not going to be anywhere near as good as Trengove/Morabito. What does Boak have that they both dont?

  Enforcer25 said:

For what purpose? At what cost?

I think we need to introduce a 'Just Think' campaign for posting leading up to trade week...

For what purpose? Hmmm lets think. We have a list at the moment in which a lot of our young brigade will be peaking at the same time, and pushing for a premiership. We have GC draft concessions in the next few years, and we have Jamar who is a decent enough ruckman but not untouchable. Then we have Port who's ruck stocks are in dire straits. Not saying Jamar is worth pick 8, but a package could do the trick. For what purpose?! That question is as ignorant as it comes. We are building for the future and another top 10 draft pick in this particular draft would be invaluable.

  Enforcer25 said:

I think we need to introduce a 'Just Think' campaign for posting leading up to trade week...

How about no posting if over 0.05. You've got to wonder sometimes.

  Clanger King said:

Boak is not going to be anywhere near as good as Trengove/Morabito. What does Boak have that they both dont?

Boak is a very good midfielder, what that deal does is give us another quality mid and then a chance to get at a good tall with Pick 8. We may get Trengove or Morabito and they may be better then Boak but will when you combine Boak with a good key forward you need to consider.

This is the only way we get pick 8 if we want it.

Butcher won't be available at 8, what other quality talls would you be willing to pass on Trengove/Morabito to grab at 8?

  Tall Defence said:

How about this for a trade: McNamara, Bell & Pick 18 for pick 8!

I'm sure Port would love that trade!

This joke has been used on just about every trade thread on here. Leave the jokes to HT.

  drdrake said:

Offer pick 2 for Boak and pick 8, through in a fringe player if needed. That is the only way we get pick 8, we lose pick 2 but iwould be happy with that. Port might consider to get Trengove

So they lose Boak and Pick 8 for Trengove? hmmm Depends on how much they value him. If that went down I would be happy as can be.

  Clanger King said:

Boak is not going to be anywhere near as good as Trengove/Morabito. What does Boak have that they both dont?

Boak has proven himself at AFL level and performs on a consistant basis. At this point in time Trengove and Morabito are only worth what you imagen them to be.

  Deemissioner said:

For what purpose? Hmmm lets think. We have a list at the moment in which a lot of our young brigade will be peaking at the same time, and pushing for a premiership. We have GC draft concessions in the next few years, and we have Jamar who is a decent enough ruckman but not untouchable. Then we have Port who's ruck stocks are in dire straits. Not saying Jamar is worth pick 8, but a package could do the trick. For what purpose?! That question is as ignorant as it comes. We are building for the future and another top 10 draft pick in this particular draft would be invaluable.

Ok, so for the purpose of blindly acquiring extra draft picks at the expense of a required player whom is our best option in a position that is currently a weakness of this club.

That you think alone is not worth that pick, so we'd have to include something else as well.

For a pick that you have no clear idea of what you want to do with it.

Clever.

This isn't, for example, trading Travis Johnstone whilst he still has some good value, but we know he has plateaued and will be of no use to us during a rebuild.

This is purely an attempt at stockpiling draft picks for the sake of having another draft pick so you can drool over the choices.

No clear aim, purpose, plan or idea of what it will actually cost.

This is my point.

You don't suggest acquiring for the specific reason of taking, for example Talia, as he won't last past then.

You emplore BP and Bailey to 'get it done' implying that pick 8 is something we need to have.

If we need it, why do we need it? Surely it would be handy to have, but we don't need it.

'Getting it done' implies at whatever it costs. Hence the question - at what cost? and for what purpose?

  Deemissioner said:

Butcher won't be available at 8, what other quality talls would you be willing to pass on Trengove/Morabito to grab at 8?

What's Talia's ability like to play forward? I know he'll be a very good KP defender. Question would be can he do a Hurley and do it at both ends of the ground?

  Enforcer25 said:

I thought it would be obvious to those taking part in the Tall v Mid debate regarding pick two. If we have another top 10 pick in a midfielders draft, it would leave the door open for us to take arguably the best tall in the draft at pick number 2 and grab a quality midfielder at 8. I am not blindly suggesting we "get it done" for the sake of drooling over the prospects...that is ludicrous. I genuinely think that PJ and Martin/Meesen could handle the brunt of the ruck duties and we would be fine. It is not a swipe at Jamar nor an oversight of the general consensus that our ruck division is a glaring weakness. It is just an outcry to may hay while the sun shines, or get the best young talent into the club in the last uncompromised draft. The cost in my opinion would be Jamar + Pick 18. Jamar is good when he is on the park. but in my opinion that isn't often enough and age isn't on his side either. You have to keep an eye on the future E25. If GC weren't entering the league and killing the draft then I would not feel the need to say "get it done", in fact I would probably laugh at the suggestion too. We need to be ruthless in our rebuild.

Who says Boak wants to move?

If he does then ...

Picks 2, 18 and 34 for Boak and Pick 8

Gives Port the SA boy Trengove and a decent pick at 18 and a filler at 34

Gives us a quality Victorian midfielder and a much earlier crack at a KP with 8.

The balance is probably still in our favour

The alternative might be:

Pick 2 for Pick 8 and Pearce

  Deemissioner said:

I thought it would be obvious to those taking part in the Tall v Mid debate regarding pick two. If we have another top 10 pick in a midfielders draft, it would leave the door open for us to take arguably the best tall in the draft at pick number 2 and grab a quality midfielder at 8. I am not blindly suggesting we "get it done" for the sake of drooling over the prospects...that is ludicrous. I genuinely think that PJ and Martin/Meesen could handle the brunt of the ruck duties and we would be fine. It is not a swipe at Jamar nor an oversight of the general consensus that our ruck division is a glaring weakness. It is just an outcry to may hay while the sun shines, or get the best young talent into the club in the last uncompromised draft. The cost in my opinion would be Jamar + Pick 18. Jamar is good when he is on the park. but in my opinion that isn't often enough and age isn't on his side either. You have to keep an eye on the future E25. If GC weren't entering the league and killing the draft then I would not feel the need to say "get it done", in fact I would probably laugh at the suggestion too. We need to be ruthless in our rebuild.

uh.... fancy reading the opening post again in that case?

  old55 said:

Who says Boak wants to move?

If he does then ...

Picks 2, 18 and 34 for Boak and Pick 8

Gives Port the SA boy Trengove and a decent pick at 18 and a filler at 34

Gives us a quality Victorian midfielder and a much earlier crack at a KP with 8.

The balance is probably still in our favour

The alternative might be:

Pick 2 for Pick 8 and Pearce

HAHAHA... your kidding aren't you. You want to give up our pick 2 for a player that is behind K.Cornes, S.Burgoyne and will get over taken by H.Hartlett in the near future in Port Adelaides midfield pecking order. WE WILL NOT TRADE pick 2. If you think we would then you either under the age of 12 or just loosing the plot with getting alot of picks in a WEAK draft.

  Enforcer25 said:

uh.... fancy reading the opening post again in that case?

Sorry, not following. I've read my opening post and as far as I'm concerned we need to get it done if the opportunity presents itself. If you don't like my opinion, too bad I guess.

They are fishing Port Adelaide. But are they fishing for a current established player or are they fishing for pick 2?

It's been mentioned on this thread and other threads:

Pick 2 in exchange for pick 8 and T.Boak. They get access to picking Trengove, Morabito or whoever. Melbourne gets pick 8 - perhaps access to a Butcher/Cunnington/Martin/Talia and Boak (former No.5 pick) as a mid.

An option, although the club must weigh up the Trengove/Morabito (or whoever for arguments sake) vs Boak/pick 8.

It's all speculative but interesting. I'd stick with pick 2 as a keep for the draft.

I think I'd actually do that trade.

It really depends on how BP rates that second tier of players compared to the first couple and I'm in no position myself to have any real idea.

For picks 1 & 2 Scully Boak and Talia/Cunnington/Martin/Rohan/Lucas could be a very good return

Some of the prospective trades in this thread are ridiculous.

  Deemissioner said:

For what purpose? Hmmm lets think. We have a list at the moment in which a lot of our young brigade will be peaking at the same time, and pushing for a premiership. We have GC draft concessions in the next few years, and we have Jamar who is a decent enough ruckman but not untouchable. Then we have Port who's ruck stocks are in dire straits. Not saying Jamar is worth pick 8, but a package could do the trick. For what purpose?! That question is as ignorant as it comes. We are building for the future and another top 10 draft pick in this particular draft would be invaluable.

Sure it could. Like what, Bell, Newton and Jamar for pick 8?

You've got to think about what Port Adelaide will actually accept.

  Mr Morton said:

This joke has been used on just about every trade thread on here. Leave the jokes to HT.

  titan_uranus said:

Sure it could. Like what, Bell, Newton and Jamar for pick 8?

You've got to think about what Port Adelaide will actually accept.

I reckon Jamar & 18 for Pick 8 is a win for both parties.

  Deemissioner said:

I reckon Jamar & 18 for Pick 8 is a win for both parties.

jamars taken 6yrs to come good, why trade him, and who do you think will replace him?who do we get for pick8, who many ruckman this year kicked 5goals in a game, jamars not in the market, why ? theres no replacement.

  Mr Morton said:

This joke has been used on just about every trade thread on here. Leave the jokes to HT.

Have you read HT's jokes?

Go back and re-read. Do a search. I'll wait...

Yeah, not great...

We all get the wrong impression on things from time to time...

Thought Garland was crap. Boy is my face red.

  delicious jurrah coffee said:

jamars taken 6yrs to come good, why trade him, and who do you think will replace him?who do we get for pick8, who many ruckman this year kicked 5goals in a game, jamars not in the market, why ? theres no replacement.

Fair to say we won't see Jamar kick another bag of 5 any time soon.

Jamar has taken 6 years to come good? He was good in 2006 and got injured when we needed him most in the SF against Fremantle. That is the story of his career, injured when we need him. He's played 31 games in 3 seasons, and 7 in 2009. I'm not willing to back him to remain injury free (especially at 27 next year) for an entire season so we are better off using him to get pick 8 which could deliver us a Ben Cunnington or Dustin Martin.