The Dustin Martin Thread

[fuchsia 37]

interesting change of draft telecast ..

normally on the saturday morning.

moved from 28th nov.morning to 26th nov.thursday evening.

Now with a bit of soap opera come reality show effect. for ratings.

changed to thursday night at 6.30 through to 8pm to be live on fox sports..

WITH A DIFFERENCE..

BEFORE THE TELECAST

CLUBS WITH THE TOP 10 PICKS ; will go into a private room to make their choices,

then the TOP 10 WILL BE COUNTED DOWN FROM 10 TO 1 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LIVE TELECAST !!

FOR DRAMATIC EFFECT !!

CURTAILS ALL THE LATE NIGHT SHOPPING ME THINKS..

I AM ALSO PUTTING A CASE FORWARD for " DUSTIN MARTIN "who plays for bendigo pioneers/ vic. country.

gee this kid seems underated ??

have not seen much press or a case being made since trengove hit the scene ,but this kid is a gun.

He has been single handedly holding his own tac side together.

his stats have been as good as scully's. with more b.o.g.'s

IN TAC CUP. d.martin has averaged 26.6 disposals in 10 games ;;played 11 but( 1 game injured )

he was no "1" best in 4 games , and 1 each of 2nd, 3rd & 4th best..out of 10 games playing for a bottom club ie; flower esq.

in the u 18's champs.for vic.country he averaged 21.4 disposals with a ,ke. of 63% & de. 68%.

(kicks effective= ke%; disp.effective= de% )

went inside 50 on 27 occasions ,he is a solid taller attacking onballer who kicks both feet.

best on ground with 28 disposals against WA in grand final game at edihad..who were u18 champs.

all australian;picked in centre..( how he did not get MVP for vic country bemuses to the extreme)

garry rohan got mvp with 12 ave. disposals

whereas "scully" played 6 games for his tac club.dandy. he averaged 26.3 disposals.

was "1" best only once for dandy stingrays with one each of a 2nd ,4th & 6th best..

his stats for u18's champs were 25.4 ave disposals with a ke. 61% & de. 76%.

and mvp for vic/metro.- ALL AUSTRALIAN. r/r

OBVIOUS GUN AND NO 1.

and lastly "TRENGOVE" u18's champs.had 22.8 disposals ave.

with a ke.70% & a de. 72%.

and MVP FOR SA.AND please note he has mentioned in interview how he would like to stay in his home state of SA.

probable no 2 pick but !!!can u envisage him spending the next 10 years away from his home ???

is an obvious quality kid and any club and supporter would be rapt to have but is he a risk of doing a "thompson" ??

NO problem with one D.MARTIN WANTING TO PLAY & STAY IN VICTORIA..

will be very interested on how he is rated by prendy and clubs generally..

just a bit of by play for anyone who was interested and unaware ..

Edited September 8, 2009 by fuschia

[dee-tox 4,835]

I am making a case forward for DUSTIN MARTIN who plays for bendigo pioneers/ vic. country.

gee this kid seems underated ??

have not seen much press or a case being made since trengove hit the scene ,but this kid is a gun.

He has been single handedly holding his own tac side together.

his stats have been as good as scully's. with more b.o.g.'s

IN TAC CUP. d.martin has averaged 26.6 disposals in 10 games ;;played 11 but( 1 game injured )

he was no "1" best in 4 games , and 1 each of 2nd, 3rd & 4th best..out of 10 games playing for a bottom club ie; flower esq.

in the u 18's champs.for vic.country he averaged 21.4 disposals with a ,ke. of 63% & de. 68%.

(kicks effective= ke%; disp.effective= de% )

went inside 50 on 27 occasions ,he is a solid taller attacking onballer who kicks both feet.

best on ground with 28 disposals against WA in grand final game at edihad..who were u18 champs.

all australian;picked in centre..( how he did not get MVP for vic country bemuses to the extreme)

garry rohan got mvp with 12 ave. disposals

whereas "scully" played 6 games for his tac club.dandy. he averaged 26.3 disposals.

was "1" best only once for dandy stingrays with one each of a 2nd ,4th & 6th best..

his stats for u18's champs were 25.4 ave disposals with a ke. 61% & de. 76%.

and mvp for vic/metro.- ALL AUSTRALIAN. r/r

OBVIOUS GUN AND NO 1.

and lastly "TRENGOVE" u18's champs.had 22.8 disposals ave.

with a ke.70% & a de. 72%.

and MVP FOR SA.AND please note he has mentioned in interview how he would like to stay in his home state of SA.

probable no 2 pick but !!!can u envisage him spending the next 10 years away from his home ???

is an obvious quality kid and any club and supporter would be rapt to have but is he a risk of doing a "thompson" ??

no problem with one D.MARTIN WANTING TO GO ANYWHERE BUT VICTORIA..

will be very interested on how he is rated by prendy and clubs generally..

just a bit of by play for anyone who was interested and unaware ..

[btdemon 482]

What do you mean by 'anywhere but Victoria' ?

Edited August 26, 2009 by btdemon

[Carn dees 108]

Hopefully the club has a good talk to jack, make sure he can commit to staying away from home.

[Akum 2,660]

Fuschia, you make a very good argument indeed for Dustin Martin - I agree that he seems to have been forgotten amid the "Trengove vs Butcher" debate.

The only advantage Trengove seems to have over Martin is having played against men in the SANFL rather than against other boys in the TAC. Then again, as you say, the one reservation that a number have expressed about Trengove is not an issue for Martin - how much weight is put on this issue will be a matter for the face-to-face interview.

[Doggo 32]

My understanding of Dustin is that he's a late starter to footy and has been a very fast developer and improver. Has come from nowhere in the last 2 years. Likely to be a really good player, but i do have one concern. Watching him live, he seemed to be a bit one-paced. Not a great turn of speed or acceleration, but good endurance. I question whether he is the type of player we are looking for, as he gets the majority of his footy in close and is similar to what we already have.

Scully has real pace, and while i'm not sure of Trengove's speed, his undoubted football ability/background, his love of carrying the footy and delivering nicely on both feet, and the fact he has played and done well against men in the SANFL has him ahead in my books. Martin will go top 10 though, no doubt, maybe even top 5.

[Akum 2,660]

My understanding of Dustin is that he's a late starter to footy and has been a very fast developer and improver. Has come from nowhere in the last 2 years. Likely to be a really good player, but i do have one concern. Watching him live, he seemed to be a bit one-paced. Not a great turn of speed or acceleration, but good endurance. I question whether he is the type of player we are looking for, as he gets the majority of his footy in close and is similar to what we already have.

Scully has real pace, and while i'm not sure of Trengove's speed, his undoubted football ability/background, his love of carrying the footy and delivering nicely on both feet, and the fact he has played and done well against men in the SANFL has him ahead in my books. Martin will go top 10 though, no doubt, maybe even top 5.

INteresting comments. By contrast, what impresses about Rohan is his burst of real acceleration that allows him to break lines.

[Doggo 32]

INteresting comments. By contrast, what impresses about Rohan is his burst of real acceleration that allows him to break lines.

Might be what's keeping Martin from being rated in the top 3 or 4 possibly.

I was also very impressed with Rohan at the championships, and rate him higher than Martin. On the final day, i actually thought he was the most impressive player i saw, behind Scully, and i wouldn't be upset if we took him at 2, depsite probably not being the best available. Has the potential to be the best of the lot down the track IMO.

[Carlos Danger 380]

Disagree with the top 10 countdown, just seems stupid and unecessary. But atleast they will put it at the start of the telecast, when I first heard about it I figured they would hold it out until the end. Should be interesting to see how they do it, will be a lot different watching it on a Thursday evening than listening to it on a Saturday morning. Best part of it all being that it's gonna be 2 days earlier.

[Doggo 32]

Disagree with the top 10 countdown, just seems stupid and unecessary. But atleast they will put it at the start of the telecast, when I first heard about it I figured they would hold it out until the end. Should be interesting to see how they do it.

Agree, seems like a bit of a w@nk really. As long as we have 1 & 2, i couldn't really care less to be honest!

BTW, nice profile pic!

[Longsufferingnomore 1,647]

Might be what's keeping Martin from being rated in the top 3 or 4 possibly.

I was also very impressed with Rohan at the championships, and rate him higher than Martin. On the final day, i actually thought he was the most impressive player i saw, behind Scully, and i wouldn't be upset if we took him at 2, depsite probably not being the best available. Has the potential to be the best of the lot down the track IMO.

Ta;lking to some Richmond fans today and they said they will be very happy to have Martin. They had seen him play and said that he is really outstanding and given that Scully and Trengove are taking all the limelight hoping that he doesnt go early.

[fuchsia 37]

INteresting comments. By contrast, what impresses about Rohan is his burst of real acceleration that allows him to break lines.

OBVIOUSLY ROHAN IS SPEED PERSONIFIED.. ( cooney like-red head and all)BUT HE DOESN'T GET ENOUGH OF THE BALL..

HE WAS MARKED AT 13 AVE. DISPOSALS IN U18'S CHAMPS.& and his kicking can be rushed and sloppy..

he had a couple of shots on goal 20 meter's out and sprayed it..

in tac cup he played 9 games & got 120 disposals= 13.3 ave..

he was "1" best once- with a 4th & 6th best once each.-out of 9 games.

there is no way he got near martin in stats and effectiveness in that last game against wa.

martin got 20 touches in the first half alone and was the only reason for vic/country staying in the game he obviously tired in the last quarter which was fair enough..

What a pre season would do.!! his speed is not an issue considering class gets u out of trouble with weaving and winding around opponents- do u remember james hird-diesel williams-even buckley& voss didn't posess great speed but seemed to go ok..

but his goal in the first quarter was a fantastic effort when he chased the wa boys out of his forward pocket,

got the ball back on the wing, ran along boundary and pinged without any fuss.really class act.

BAILEY HAS STATED THIS WEEK THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF DELIVERY WITH FORWARD 50.ENTRIES % ACCURACY WILL BE

THE EMPHASIS ON WHAT THEY WILL CHOOSE IN DRAFT...

AS THAT IS HOW THEY SHOULD GO..

[Ryan Dee 140]

Anyone got video of Dustin?

[Doggo 32]

Check him out on youtube:

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

I remember watching the Vic Country/WA game and thinking he was an absolute gun. They did comment during the game that he was a late bloomer, and no he doesn't have pack busting speed, but he just continually found the footy and used it on both sides of his body better than any of the players I watched on Fox that day.

Is he worth a no.2 pick over Trengove or Butcher though? I am not sure, but I wouldn't be unhappy if we took a punt on him.

Edited August 27, 2009 by Jerry Lundergard

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

In light of Tim Harrington putting Dustin Martins name forward as a possibility for the No.2 pick, i am bumping this topic.

[jacey 333]

In light of Tim Harrington putting Dustin Martins name forward as a possibility for the No.2 pick, i am bumping this topic.

I actually thought that there was a lil twinkle/ lil passion when he was talking about Dustin Martin too.

From recent drafts the mantra has been players who are great kicks and great decision makers.

& Tim rates Dustin Martin as the best kick and decision maker in the whole 09 class. Strong over the ball, very quick off the mark, a ball magnet and a booming kick.

Interesting times.

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

Dustin Martin (Bendigo Pioneers, VIC)

Height: 187cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 26/06/91

Recruited from: Castlemaine

Attacking onballer with great balance and ball winning ability. Averaged 21 possessions per game for Vic Country at NAB AFL U18 Championships, winning All-Australian honours. Good skills on both sides of this body.

I know much of the debate about our 2nd pick is centered around Trengove, Morabito ad Butcher, I am throwing Dustin Martins name firmly in the ring as well. Now i don't profess to know anymore about these kids other than watching the U/18 champs on Foxsports, so i am going on the performance of Dustin on that day and his impressive TAC stats in a struggling Bendigo team.

I thought Martin was the outstanding player at Etihad Stadium playing against WA. He can find the pill, is an elite user by foot on both sides of his body ad can also take a grab and kick a goal. He doesn't seem to have outstanding speed, but his engine and workrate didn't seem to be an issue. If i were to compare him to a current AFL player,i would probably say he is a Dal Santo/Pendlebury type.

From what i could gather from the commentry, it seems Dustin is a late bloomer and has just started coming on this year, and best of all he is a Victorian boy so there would be no go home factor with him.

If anyone has seen him play in the TAC or has anymore useful info on him, please post away. I am officially heading up the bandwagon.

Video Footage

Dustin Martin

Profile taken from contestedfooty.com(with a BP quote)

Position: Midfielder

Dustin Martin is a good quality attacking midfielder who can kick well off both feet. He also has good balance and can keep his feet when in a contest. Martin averaged over 21 touches in the AFL under 18 championships, which is a decent effort for a midfielder. Martin is also an AFL under 18championships All-Australian player. He was named in the team as a centre.

Dustin Martin will attend the AFL draft camp in late September which is hosted by the AIS in Canberra. Martin has been touted as a first round pick “Dustin is a great chance of being in the top 10 at the national draft,” said Ray Byrne, Bendigo Bank Pioneers regional manager. Dustin Martin was the CVGT Rising Star award winner in the Bendigo Bank Bendigo Football Netball League in 2008.

Martin is also very good at getting the ball inside 50, as he is very attacking; he has had 27 inside 50 entries in the AFL under 18championships. Dustin was instrumental, along with Andrew Hooper, in Vic Country’s win over Tasmania. He has been consistently in the bests this year for Vic Country. He amassed 20 touches in a half to steer Vic Country to victory early in the match. He did slow in the second half though, only gathering another 8 possessions for the rest of the match.

Dustin Martin has been working on his fitness and work rate this year, which enables him to play as ruck rover for large amounts of game time. He is also able to break free of tackles and keep his feet, which is a good sign in a midfielder. He has shown he is quite strong and can take a clean mark.

Martin has been played deep in the forward line at times. The only negative thing that I have seen said about him is by Melbourne’s national recruiting manager Barry Prendergast who said that “Dustin Martin has struggled in some games, but has really stepped up today [July the 1st]”.

Martin is a good height at 187cm and weighs 86kg, so he has a fair amount of bulk and looks to have a good sized frame for a midfielder.

[Carn dees 108]

Id be happy with either martin, trengove or morabtio.

Id be extremely happy if we could package away some unwanted players with pic 34 or even 18 to get another first rounder.

[DeeMfc 621]

Best skills by foot in the draft.

By a country mile.

Followed by Rohan and Trengove.

The way he can weight the ball into a tight position is poetry in motion.

[MadAsHell 4,215]

Very good player but I don't know about pick 2. I've got no doubt he could go as high as pick 5, however I have a feeling that he could be the driffter in this draft and end up at Carlton at pick 11, ala Daniel Rich to Brisbane pick 7 in 2008 National Draft.

[Axis of Bob 11,853]

Why would he drift, TD?

I he may be right in the mix for 2.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Why would he drift, TD?

I he may be right in the mix for 2.

I agree, particularly if we are not sold on Trengove.

[Jurrah Coffee 0]

Is this guy fast?

We really need a quick midfielder not someone with Brock McLean's speed (no disrespect to Brock).

[e25 5]

Martin has been played deep in the forward line at times. The only negative thing that I have seen said about him is by Melbourne’s national recruiting manager Barry Prendergast who said that “Dustin Martin has struggled in some games, but has really stepped up today [July the 1st]”.

BP foxing maybe? Trying to throw others off the scent..?

Although, I've no idea why he would -- its not like we'll undersell him and he'll end up being available at pick 18 as a result