surprised its taken this long, but nice work mousey

Thanks for that mousey

I will admit to not knowing anything about Scully and I can only go from the limited vision I have seen, but is his greatness a Forumulated Opinion or is it genuine?

I will admit to not knowing anything about Scully and I can only go from the limited vision I have seen, but is his greatness a Forumulated Opinion or is it genuine?

Method:

Scully 7mins 29 secs footage

Trengrove 4mins 51 secs footage

Conclusion:

Scully enjoys more pill than Trengrove.

Formulated enough for u?

As I said on the other thread, he was fairly quiet today at Visy - of what I saw - but he does look good when he gets near the pill.

The vision there from the carnival was probably one of trengoves quieter days.

And yes scully is a gun i no first hand.

Scully may well be a ball magnet, but from that footage his foot skills were very poor. He hit one target, and that was a shot for goal. I haven't seen any other footage, so I'm not saying he's a bad kick of the footy, just that in this particular footage he does not demonstrate great foot skills. His hands were top notch though. I would like an opinion from someone who has seen a bit more of him as to how good or bad his kicking is. If he has just average foots kills, I can't get that excited, as we already have too many players on our list with this deficiency.

15.4 beep test for Trengove and Scully runs a 9.27min 3 km run

I hope people can appreciate how amazing those times and results are. Add in Cale Morton and Jack Grimes who can do a 15 + beep test as well and it's getting exciting. I think last years best scores in the draft camp for the beep test was 14.6 and for the 3km run was 10.20 min or close to it.

Watching that video Scully had a few clangers and not to many effective kicks going inside 50. Just being picky though

Edited August 23, 200915 yr by Mr Morton

Scully may well be a ball magnet, but from that footage his foot skills were very poor. He hit one target, and that was a shot for goal. I haven't seen any other footage, so I'm not saying he's a bad kick of the footy, just that in this particular footage he does not demonstrate great foot skills. His hands were top notch though. I would like an opinion from someone who has seen a bit more of him as to how good or bad his kicking is. If he has just average foots kills, I can't get that excited, as we already have too many players on our list with this deficiency.

Yea ive seen him play school footy, his skills can be absolutely superb one kick from a clearance i remember was about 2 mtrs of the ground i was soo fast and strait it nearly knocked the kid of his feet.

During the game his disposal was fine if not really good.

It should be noted he received a knock early that day, and played the game out with his nose taped to stop bleeding, similar to Judd early his year. It effected his breathing and probably effected his game.

Usually his kicking is good. He is equally capable on both feet, and has good penetration. He's no Gilbee, Hodge etc, but he is more than capable and would be ranked towards the top end of prospective draftees.

His handball is the best I've ever seen at that level. It's Simon Back-like.

His reflexes are amazing also, I'd compare them to Aaron Davey.

He's got good pace, and is a decent mark for his size. He will at worst be a good midfielder for us. He definitely has the potential to be a great player though (hence his #1 pick status ).

i am also a little concerned bout his kicking, but all the experts say he is the chris judd, and he moves like him too

The only thing you can really take from that video is how quick he moves and fires out handball's in contested situations. His kicking was no better or worse then the other young players. There was one mark he took which was strong but nothing special.

When your in a dark hole, light seems brighter than it actually is.

that's just a highlights reel from one game...all midfielders have bad disposals throughout the game and if they showed everysingle disposal of one particular person for an entire afl game, you might have a few doubts about their general disposal (besides davey round 1, 2 and 3 this year)...his work at the stoppages and his in close handballs seem first rate.

In his defence, it looks like he never really got free... Lots of times in the first minutes he was just under the pump. His judgement may have been a bit off with the bloody great bandage on his face.

In general I don't know what everyone's whinging about. I was barring up watching those two vids.

They just ooze class. WHat Scully lacks by foot, Trengove makes up for. That's one of the prettier looking kicks I've seen in a while. So clean, perfect ball drop, lightning-quick decision making. You can see why people were saying he might knock off Scully.

As for Tom, his hands are unbelievable. He'll fit in beautifully at MFC. Though it may be interesting watching him develop. If he's as up-and-under as he was in that vid... and if he looks for the handball option first before kicking, it may end up limiting his super-stardom. Don't get me wrong, as long as he brings players like Blease and Morton into the action, I'm fine with it.

Edited August 23, 200915 yr by Dappa Dan

That goal at 3.55 is Blease-like...

This is all confirms what I was already thinking about Trengove, incredibly talented midfielder with a hard edge, great tackling and bumping, he will play round 1 for sure. He looks to be the best ready-made senior player of this year's draft; the Daniel Rich so to speak. I really hope we use that second pick on him.

I went to that game and my opinion at the game vs in the youtube clip was somewhat different.

At the game Scully was far more impressive than in the video, amazing endurance and pace. And trengove's clip was far better than I remember him in the game.

Looking forward to the NAB cup.

I don't know what everyone's whinging about.

Exactly. This kid is superb. Plays inside and out, and when you get your own pill in tight like he does, the right choice is to handball to a runner with eyes up. But he kicks when he should, and kicks well. And covers the ground like a Kenyan. Get excited.

I went to that game and my opinion at the game vs in the youtube clip was somewhat different.

At the game Scully was far more impressive than in the video, amazing endurance and pace. And trengove's clip was far better than I remember him in the game.

Looking forward to the NAB cup.

I think what's lost when watching a youtube highlights package, is how much ground Scully covers, how incredibly quickly he does it and how he just goes and goes and goes and goes.

You need to also bear in mind his nose was broken at the start of that game and that his team was getting smashed all over the park by SA - he was one of the few who could hold their head high.

Trengove looked nice, great overhead, semi-decent decision maker, kicks were relatively effective... not sure about the speed though.

But overall a nice package. Nothing I'd rave too hard about, but still clearly 2nd in my mind.

Both very very impressive. Tom scully is just first to the ball all the time, and absolutely gut runs. Trengove looks like another sylvia type. And you cant have enough of them.

Trengove seems better balanced with poise.. Scully has a bit of "hard nut "about him. Think they might complement each other quite nicely whilst adding to what we already have. Jack needs a bit less of the up and under passing technique. Scully very..VERY quick of hand.

What a shame to have to pick between...wait... WE DONT !!!!!! :D :D

Not forgetting that Scully's nose was busted in that game. Not bad for a kid eh?

Scully may well be a ball magnet, but from that footage his foot skills were very poor.

I prefer this youtube of Scully from last year's TAC GF.

As others have said, you really need to see a player live to appreciate their attributes. Scully broke his nose in the first minute of play. He couldn't breathe properly with congealed blood and had watery eyes, but went on to gather 29 disposals, even with a heavy tag. His kicking is good on either side, but it's his clearance work and hands that set him apart. His hands are phenomenal and he just keeps getting to contest after contest. He also has excellent pace. He'll be a star.

Edited August 24, 200915 yr by Hannibal

I prefer this youtube of Scully from last year's TAC GF.

As others have said, you really need to see a player live to appreciate their attributes. Scully broke his nose in the first minute of play. He couldn't breathe properly with congealed blood and had watery eyes, but went on to gather 29 disposals, even with a heavy tag. His kicking is good on either side, but it's his clearance work and hands that set him apart. His hands are phenomenal and he just keeps getting to contest after contest. He also has excellent pace. He'll be a star.

Thanks for posting this clip - and thanks mousey too.

Agree, Scully was clearly not right after the incident early in the Vic Metro v SA game. How ironic that it was Trengove who pushed Scully to ground in the opening minutes that caused his broken nose. Now we look as though we might be drafting both. Agree with your summation of Scully.. again.

Trengove has terrific poise. Playing well at Sturt which goes well for his development and preparation for AFL level. Scully will fit right in.