Premiership Quarter:

Melbourne - 22.17

Opposition - 39.38

ROUND 1 3.1 - 4.2 Loss 7 points (quarter), Loss 34 points (match)

ROUND 2 2.2 - 6.4 Loss 26 points, Loss 53 points

ROUND 3 3.1 - 6.7 Loss 24 points, Loss 57 points

ROUND 4 3.4 - 4.1 Loss 3 points, Won 8 points

ROUND 5 1.3 - 1.1 Win 2 points, Loss 17 points

ROUND 6 2.1 - 3.9 Loss 14 points, Loss 43 points

ROUND 7 3.0 - 4.5 Loss 11 points, Loss 8 points

ROUND 8 1.1 - 3.4 Loss 15 points, Loss 7 points

ROUND 9 4.4 - 5.2 Loss 4 points, Loss 22 points

ROUND 10 0.0 - 3.3 Loss 21 points, Loss 37 points

Percentage - 54.78

Won one quarter - 1.3 to 1.1 against the Crows.

This needs to be improved and hopefully will as we increase our fitness.

Premiership Quarter:

Melbourne - 22.17

Opposition - 39.38

ROUND 1 3.1 - 4.2 Loss 7 points (quarter), Loss 34 points (match)

ROUND 2 2.2 - 6.4 Loss 26 points, Loss 53 points

ROUND 3 3.1 - 6.7 Loss 24 points, Loss 57 points

ROUND 4 3.4 - 4.1 Loss 3 points, Won 8 points

ROUND 5 1.3 - 1.1 Win 2 points, Loss 17 points

ROUND 6 2.1 - 3.9 Loss 14 points, Loss 43 points

ROUND 7 3.0 - 4.5 Loss 11 points, Loss 8 points

ROUND 8 1.1 - 3.4 Loss 15 points, Loss 7 points

ROUND 9 4.4 - 5.2 Loss 4 points, Loss 22 points

ROUND 10 0.0 - 3.3 Loss 21 points, Loss 37 points

Percentage - 54.78

Won one quarter - 1.3 to 1.1 against the Crows.

This needs to be improved and hopefully will as we increase our fitness.

Good statistics , but poor summation .

FITNESS is certainly not the problem ,as exemplified by the astonishing statistic that we have outscored the opposition in 6 out of 10 final quarters this year , and had we kicked accurately yesterday it would have been 7 out of 10 .

I don't think we have the fitness to play a match out for four quarters.

I don't really agree with your take on the last quarters. A few of those last quarters were won when the match was over. We have won 6 of the 10, but even then our percentage for the quarter is only 92. We kicked 0.4 in last night's last qyarter but they kicked 1.6 - so you can hardly underline our poor kicking while ignoring theirs.

Perhaps you're right, it may not be fitness but I still bloody want to know what's going on at half time

Maybe yesterday... but in general? You MUST have your players mixed up.

PJ got twice as much of it, and yes used it much worse, but Jamar isn't even in the same league as PJ for disposal. PJ's pass to Frawley is the kind of thing Jamar dreams about doing.

But it isn't PJ's or Jamar's job to be a playmaker and have pin point passing.

He's 199, 105 kg ruckmen. His first job is to be a ruckman. He needs to look in the mirror and realize how freaking big he is and effing use it to his advantage.

I don't think we have the fitness (or attitude) to play a match out for four quarters.

A few of those last quarters were won when the match was over. Perhaps you're right, it may not be fitness but I still bloody want to know what's going on at half time

For the youngsters it might be fitness but the 21 and over brigade, and we have had teams full of those, it is mental.

They do not want to lose the game by leaving their man and trying to win the game so they sit back and lose the game anyway.

They seize up, it is understandable but I want Bailey at half time to come in and not talk about the opposition and just tell them to go and get the pill, and work hard to get the footy, and themselves, forward as often as possible.

They all expect Aaron to get them going and it's wearing thin with me and, I suspect, with Aaron.

He needs help and we need to get it in the corridor, move it quickly, have runners alongside whoever is running through the corridor, and have players blocking or shepparding to aide the movement and we can stop looking at paltry Inside 50 counts (33 against the Saints).

Jamar's work in close, and his contested marking (not to mention his ability to actually win a ruck contest), makes him 10 times more valuable than PJ.

We have plenty of others capable of winning the ball in the middle and actually hitting targets more than once a game, we don't need another. What we need is contested marking around the ground, and getting first use of the ball through the middle. Jamar gives us both of these.

Neither are good enough though.

It was the first time in recent history that I can remember Jamar taking a pack mark and using his brute of a body to his advantage. Let alone taking two or three contested marks. He doesn't do it nearly enough, but he seemed to be able to move very freely last night. Perhaps this is the start of a new leaf for Jamar? His disposal is still a big, big problem. He consistently looks for the handball, as his kicking leaves a lot to be desired. His shot on goal last night was about what I expected.

Good statistics , but poor summation .

FITNESS is certainly not the problem ,as exemplified by the astonishing statistic that we have outscored the opposition in 6 out of 10 final quarters this year , and had we kicked accurately yesterday it would have been 7 out of 10 .

As obvious as it sounds, it's clearly our ability to both make the right decisions, at the right time AND pull those decisions off, with effective disposals. If we do this for four quarters, there's no doubt we'll take it up to most opponents.

It was the first time in recent history that I can remember Jamar taking a pack mark and using his brute of a body to his advantage. Let alone taking two or three contested marks. He doesn't do it nearly enough, but he seemed to be able to move very freely last night. Perhaps this is the start of a new leaf for Jamar? His disposal is still a big, big problem. He consistently looks for the handball, as his kicking leaves a lot to be desired. His shot on goal last night was about what I expected.

Jamar has always taken contested marks, not as many as yesterday, but he'll take one or two a game routinely.

He's also routinely among our top tacklers! Consistent racks up a few every game

I'm thrilled that Jamar has had an undeniably great game. He puts in a huge amount of work and gets far too much crap from people expecting him to be Dean Cox or Matthew Kruezer or something.

I agree Distance. The main job of a ruckman is to create a physical presence in stoppages and clear space for midfielders. Jamar's ability to work hard for his midfielders is very good and this currently makes him by far our best ruckman.

If we're relying on pinpoint passes from ruckmen as a cornerstone of our gameplan, then we are kidding ourselves.

Jamar has always taken contested marks, not as many as yesterday, but he'll take one or two a game routinely.

I disagree. However, he certainly played very well last night and I hope he keeps it going against Fraser next week.

If we're relying on pinpoint passes from ruckmen as a cornerstone of our gameplan, then we are kidding ourselves.

Agreed. Jamar is your 'classic' ruckman. He's not a brilliant ball user or winner, but he competes. Another thing I agree with is that Jamar's a fantastic tackler.

Premiership Quarter:

Melbourne - 22.17

Opposition - 39.38

ROUND 1 3.1 - 4.2 Loss 7 points (quarter), Loss 34 points (match)

ROUND 2 2.2 - 6.4 Loss 26 points, Loss 53 points

ROUND 3 3.1 - 6.7 Loss 24 points, Loss 57 points

ROUND 4 3.4 - 4.1 Loss 3 points, Won 8 points

ROUND 5 1.3 - 1.1 Win 2 points, Loss 17 points

ROUND 6 2.1 - 3.9 Loss 14 points, Loss 43 points

ROUND 7 3.0 - 4.5 Loss 11 points, Loss 8 points

ROUND 8 1.1 - 3.4 Loss 15 points, Loss 7 points

ROUND 9 4.4 - 5.2 Loss 4 points, Loss 22 points

ROUND 10 0.0 - 3.3 Loss 21 points, Loss 37 points

Percentage - 54.78

Won one quarter - 1.3 to 1.1 against the Crows.

This needs to be improved and hopefully will as we increase our fitness.

Good stats. Looks as though it needs to be addressed. I don't think it's our fitness, because in the fourth quarters, I think our returns are better than the third quarters....I think?

Sides have been getting the jump on us, might need to be a bit more switched on, or have more intent on being first to the ball. I wonder how these figures reflect at the stoppages breakdown in the 3rd.....TBH I don't think I want to see those figures. <_<

I could do a Fourth Quarter breakdown if you want, finished placement today WOO