Yencks 8 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 If you were Dean Bailey and were asked to put forward your very best 22 (excluding any draft picks) from the players we have right now (including players with injuries), who would be in your team? here's mine: FB: Mathew Whelan, Mathew Warnock, Colin Garland HB: Simon Buckley, Jarad Rivers, Paul Wheatley C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Cale Morton HF: Mathew Bate, Brad Miller, Russell Robertson FF: Aaron Davey, Brad Green, Austin Woneamirri R: Paul Johnson, James McDonald, Brent Moloney I: Cameron Bruce, Nathan Jones, Mark Jamar, Ricky Pettard unluckies: Clint Bartram, Daniel Bell, Jack Grimes, Lyden Dunn, James Frawley, Addam Maric, (Shane Valenti) what's yours? EDIT: I forgot Martin, so in: Martin...out: Ricky Pettard --also, jamar wouldnt be in there but hes the second ruckman --james mcdonald can be the run with player
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 FB: Whelan Warnock Martin HB: Petterd Rivers Garland C: Morton Moloney Green HF: Sylvia Miller Davey FF: Wonaeamirri Robertson Maric Foll: PJ McLean Valenti Int: Jones Buckley Bate Bruce Emergency: Bell Grimes Newton If the team had to have two ruckmen I would throw Jamar in there. EDIT: I keep forgetting McDonald.
drdrake 3,203 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Whelan Martin Garland Bruce Rivers Wheatley Davey Mclean Morton Green Miller Sylvia Aussie Robbo PJ Jamar McDonald Bartram Jones Bell Buckley Bate Bartram is my prefered run with player and your best 22 needs to include one run with player and I'm still prepared to give Bell one last crack
mo64 5,911 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Assuming that Bailey wants to continue with "run and carry": FB: Whelan Garland Davey HB: Bruce Rivers Petterd C: Morton McLean Green HF: Sylvia Miller Bate FF: Wona Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McDonald Jones Inter: PJ Moloney Wheatley Grimes We need some creativity and run out of the backline, hence Davey in the bp.
Yencks 8 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 We need some creativity and run out of the backline, hence Davey in the bp. you wouldnt want davey kicking goals?
Guest Schtacker Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Whelan Martin Petterd Rivers Garland Green Morton Moloney Davey Sylvia PJ Bruce Miller Newton(Watts) Ozzie Jamar McLean Jones Grimes MWarnock Bate Buckley Dunn Macca Maric Valenti Frawley Wheatley Bell Bartram Robbo Carroll That defense is sheer quality, makes me very happy But the midfield is slow and lacking 'brilliance'... although both Morton and Davey have that in spades. McLean Morton Davey Jones Moloney Buckley Grimes seems like a talented bunch but Gee they are a fair bit off matching it with the best. I really wish we had Daniel Rich Morton is just going to have to become THE man... of course we don't even have a real ruckman as Jamar doesn't count forward line is very poor and I doubt any of those players are likely to improve much on where they are right now. PJ and Sylvia may become the real deal but if they do I don't expect it will be in a way that puts goals on the board - I really do wonder where the hell all are goals are going to come from... does it involve Robbo and Davey? Matty Bate and Juice Newton please stand up. The other massive problem is there is bugger all depth there We have 'smalls' covered all over the park and some good key backs, lots of toughness in the middle but we are missing: Genuine tap ruckman (Spencer?) 2 quick, polished midfielders (Davey, Morton, Buckley?) 2 leading-goalkicking forwards (Watts/Newton?) Problem is I am not confident that our current list has the cattle to mature into these positions - therefore I am forced to conclude the only way is via the draft which is why I was so insistent on getting the PP next year Bloody hell we're ordinary right now!
Guest Schtacker Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Bartram is my prefered run with player I feel ultimately Grimes will take this position and push Bartram out with ease
Al`s DEMONS 0 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Assuming that Bailey wants to continue with "run and carry": FB: Whelan Garland Davey HB: Bruce Rivers Petterd C: Morton McLean Green HF: Sylvia Miller Bate FF: Wona Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McDonald Jones Inter: PJ Moloney Wheatley Grimes We need some creativity and run out of the backline, hence Davey in the bp. i thought Green provieded a bit of that as well as leadership in a young backline, not to mention some of those ripping marks he took this year
Al`s DEMONS 0 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 If you were Dean Bailey and were asked to put forward your very best 22 (excluding any draft picks) from the players we have right now (including players with injuries), who would be in your team? here's mine: FB: Mathew Whelan, Mathew Warnock, Colin Garland HB: Simon Buckley, Jarad Rivers, Paul Wheatley C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Cale Morton HF: Mathew Bate, Brad Miller, Russell Robertson FF: Aaron Davey, Brad Green, Austin Woneamirri R: Paul Johnson, James McDonald, Brent Moloney I: Cameron Bruce, Nathan Jones, Mark Jamar, Ricky Pettard unluckies: Clint Bartram, Daniel Bell, Jack Grimes, Lyden Dunn, James Frawley, Addam Maric, (Shane Valenti) what's yours? EDIT: I forgot Martin, so in: Martin...out: Ricky Pettard --also, jamar wouldnt be in there but hes the second ruckman --james mcdonald can be the run with player Grimes was considered by many a top 10 pick( went at 14) with a full pre season ,if Bailey is true to form ,barring injury will play a lot of games this year with the odd rest thrown in,
Yencks 8 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 Grimes was considered by many a top 10 pick( went at 14) with a full pre season ,if Bailey is true to form ,barring injury will play a lot of games this year with the odd rest thrown in, i agree, but right now, no one could possibly put him in their "very best" 22 after playing one game if we had the premiership tomorrow, he wouldnt be playing
demon3165 2,865 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Assuming that Bailey wants to continue with "run and carry": FB: Whelan Garland Davey HB: Bruce Rivers Petterd C: Morton McLean Green HF: Sylvia Miller Bate FF: Wona Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McDonald Jones Inter: PJ Moloney Wheatley Grimes We need some creativity and run out of the backline, hence Davey in the bp. Davey in the back pocket.........lmfa..........no idea, Davey in the back pocket would be as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike, horses for courses and he ain't that down there.
John Dee 445 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Whelan, Garland, Warnock Petterd, Martin, Rivers Wheatley, McLean, Morton Bruce, Miller, Green Wonaeamirri, Bate, Maric Jamar, McDonald, Jones Johnson, Grimes, Davey, Buckley The real problem is first ruck, we need somebody to stand up; Spencer?
Dappa Dan 2,188 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Ricky Pettard Why are people still doing this? PettErd... It's not even pronounced PettArd... No disrespect or anything, just a small niggle for me... Love your work all the same Nugget...
mo64 5,911 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Davey in the back pocket.........lmfa..........no idea, Davey in the back pocket would be as useful as an ash tray on a motorbike, horses for courses and he ain't that down there. You probably said the same thing when the likes of Akermanis, Chris Johnson (Bris.), Wirrapanda, McLeod, and Johncock where shifted to the back pocket, after starting their careers as forwards. Lateral thinking obviously isn't your strong suit. We were sh#thouse this year at playing rebound footy and transferring play. If you're going to play run and carry, you need to move the ball quickly through the lines. Davey is one of the few players on our list you can "run the lines". He's wasted as a forward under Bailey's gameplan.
Yencks 8 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 Why are people still doing this? PettErd... It's not even pronounced PettArd... No disrespect or anything, just a small niggle for me... Love your work all the same Nugget... never knew petterd...sounds even worse that pettard to shout out at the footy i suppose its another "meeson" "shwarts" "neits" "wheelan" kind of spelling error
Yencks 8 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 He's wasted as a forward under Bailey's gameplan. im not trying to disagree with you but how? there will still be contests in any game plan where your typical "small forward" is able to crumb...likewise, apply defensive pressure to defenders of the opposition if we play anything like hawthorn or geelong, are cyril and stokes wasted?
e25 5 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 I feel ultimately Grimes will take this position and push Bartram out with ease Grimes will be much better than just a 'run-with' player. That's not to say that Ling & Kirk aren't great, but i just don't see him filling that role. More like an adam simpson type
e25 5 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Why are people still doing this? PettErd... It's not even pronounced PettArd... No disrespect or anything, just a small niggle for me... Love your work all the same Nugget... haha yeah, i get the same thing DD, its drives me nuts. But what can you do?
H_T 3,049 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 FB: Whelan Martin Garland HB: Buckley Warnock Rivers C: Morton Moloney Green HF: Sylvia Miller Davey FF: PJ Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McLean (Capt) Bruce Int: Wonaeamirri McDonald Bate Jones Emergency: Grimes Dunn Petterd
mo64 5,911 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 im not trying to disagree with you but how? there will still be contests in any game plan where your typical "small forward" is able to crumb...likewise, apply defensive pressure to defenders of the opposition if we play anything like hawthorn or geelong, are cyril and stokes wasted? Crumbers are useful if you're prepared to kick to a contest occasionally. When we did, it actually worked with Wona as the crumber. Davey almost played as a lead-up forward this year, usually leading out to the flanks. He had to out of necessity, because we rarely structured our forward line to allow the option of a long kick deep to the hot spot. As for applying defensive pressure, it's not easy when the forwards are faced with a 4 against 7 situation most of the time.
Neita3000 37 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 FB: Whelan Martin Garland HB: Rivers Warnock Green W: Buckley McLean Morton HF:Wonnaeamirri Miller Bruce Davey Robertson Bate FF: Sylvia (one out) R: Johnson Grimes Jones I: Petterd, Maric, McDonald, Jamar
Demons 32 235 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 My best 22 BP: Whelan Warnock Rivers HB: Wheatley Garland Green C: Morton Moloney Buckley HF: Davey Miller Bruce FP: Wona Robbo Sylvia R: Jamar Mclean Jones Inter: Mcdonald, PJ, Bate, Petterd EMG: Martin, Bartram, Grimes
ChannellingHopgoodAgro 4 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 FB: Whelan Martin Garland HB: Buckley Warnock Rivers C: Morton Moloney Green HF: Sylvia Miller Davey FF: PJ Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McLean (Capt) Bruce Int: Wonaeamirri McDonald Bate Jones Emergency: Grimes Dunn Petterd I reckon yours is spot on High Tower... just not enough room for junior unfortunately
gOLLy 401 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 FB: Whelan Martin Garland HB: Buckley Warnock Rivers C: Morton Moloney Green HF: Sylvia Miller Davey FF: PJ Robertson Maric Foll: Jamar McLean (Capt) Bruce Int: Wonaeamirri McDonald Bate Jones Emergency: Grimes Dunn Petterd No Wheatley?
e25 5 Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 No Wheatley? At the expense of.. ? Maybe as a replacement for Whelan if (when) he gets injured...
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