Charlie gardiner, just been delisted by the Saints, in a PSD cupboard that is pretty bare, maybe he is an option.. i personally not a fan of him, but just after thoughts, he is not really the answer, on the oldish side, slow, one dimensional..

Maybe i just answered my own question...

Booted out of two clubs in two years.

We should pick him up, we can make it a hat-trick

No interest whatsoever.

Pass > Charlie Gardiner.

Maybe i just answered my own question...

When you got to this point, maybe you could have decided not to click the 'post' button

HARSH

gets alot of the footy, leads well, works hard, smart, good hands, and is serviceable, bit similar to miller but better!!!

equal too if not better than:

Bartram

Dunn

Bell

Carroll

Frawley

Jamar

Meesen

Newton

gets alot of the footy, leads well, works hard, smart, good hands, and is serviceable, bit similar to miller but better!!!

He isn't better than Miller. He is a first rate hack who has now failed miserably at two clubs. Definite pass here.

63 games over 7 years, with disposal average of 10.

Over their careers, Miller averages one extra mark per game than Gardiner. Hardly "getting a lot of footy" Gardiner has never had 20 touches. Add to al lthat he's farily useless and has been kicked out of two teams in two years, why would we want him? Aside from one of the major drawbacks being that he'll be 26 next year

No interest whatsoever.

Pass > Charlie Gardiner.

Michael Rix has also been delisted.

Interest?

HARSH

gets alot of the footy, leads well, works hard, smart, good hands, and is serviceable, bit similar to miller but better!!!

equal too if not better than: ....

SILLY

Nasher has summed it up. He isn't better than Miller. Gardiner is a 2 Club delist. And comparing him to Bartram is mindless.

If you list the players on the MFC list you clearly dont value I dont see the point in talking Gardiner up. We wont take him if we are serious about improving our list.

Michael Rix has also been delisted.

Interest?

Same bucket.

Same bucket.

Agreed.

Rix reminds me alot like Meesen. ZERO awareness. The only difference is Rix at least could win a game at St Kilda.

Gardiner is a 2 Club delist.

He's not a two club delist Rhino, the Cats traded him to the Saints with Steven King for pick 90

gets alot of the footy, leads well, works hard, smart, good hands, and is serviceable, bit similar to miller but better!!!

Every one of those comments re: Gardiner is wrong. Shows how much you know.

People need to realise that players get delisted for a reason.

He's not a two club delist Rhino, the Cats traded him to the Saints with Steven King for pick 90

I still think Geelong got the better of the deal....by a long way.

63 games over 7 years, with disposal average of 10.

Over their careers, Miller averages one extra mark per game than Gardiner. Hardly "getting a lot of footy" Gardiner has never had 20 touches. Add to al lthat he's farily useless and has been kicked out of two teams in two years, why would we want him? Aside from one of the major drawbacks being that he'll be 26 next year

wrong. if miller was playing for any of the other clubs he would have been delisted too. If Miller was at the cats as Gardiner was then he wouldnt have got past his first contract. After that I honestly dont think another club would have touched him. Gardiner is a hell of a lot better than miller. WIth regards to Miller i've never known a player not being able to mark or even handball properly.

Miller marks per game average: 5.4

Gardiner marks per game average: 4.4

I said "Miller averages one extra mark per game than Gardiner." How is that wrong?

because its flawed logic. what about minutes per game?...also what about dropped marks per game?...amount of times miller runs underneath the ball per game compared to gardiner? number of clangers per game? number of times any of them got scared in a contest and punched it (instead of marking it) straight down to akermanis directly in front of goals losing a game for their team?

wrong. if miller was playing for any of the other clubs he would have been delisted too. If Miller was at the cats as Gardiner was then he wouldnt have got past his first contract. After that I honestly dont think another club would have touched him. Gardiner is a hell of a lot better than miller. WIth regards to Miller i've never known a player not being able to mark or even handball properly.

You inability to show even a modest amount of objectivity in assessing Miller symbolises why so many readers of this site hold your views with as such low estimation and smirk at how you seemingly trumpet your derided and silly views.

because its flawed logic. what about minutes per game?...also what about dropped marks per game?...amount of times miller runs underneath the ball per game compared to gardiner? number of clangers per game? number of times any of them got scared in a contest and punched it (instead of marking it) straight down to akermanis directly in front of goals losing a game for their team?

Not as flawed as your classic comments

"Gardiner is a hell of a lot better than miller." "WIth regards to Miller i've never known a player not being able to mark or even handball properly."

Either way he has averaged more marks than Gardiner. And that takes into account where Miller has played a negating role in defence where stats are low. That stat in itself does little to champion Gardiner. Miller is no star of the game but he isn't the disaster you have ridiculously tried to present.

At least 45Hotgod was able to put up a third party statistical comparison. You perennially post nothing but the limitations of your football knowledge.

you are and always will be a supporter who simply cannot see the big picture. we came last yet you fail to draw on any of the negatives simply because in your mind everything is rosey and all of our players have no flaws.

how is the fact that he has more marks a reflection of him being a better player? it isn't. especially when miller would get significantly more game time than gardiner ever did.

how about you actually have an opinion of your own rhino...its very easy sitting on the fence isn't it

you are and always will be a supporter who simply cannot see the big picture.

What ever I see dwarfs your microscopic outlook its not funny. In fact I cant think of one "big picture" contribution you have made. Though I am sure you will respond to blow your own trumpet

we came last yet you fail to draw on any of the negatives simply because in your mind everything is rosey and all of our players have no flaws.

When did I say that? In fact I have been regularly critical of a number of aspects of MFC list and players.

Making stuff up Freak is the work of simple minds. Yours being in the extreme.

how is the fact that he has more marks a reflection of him being a better player? it isn't. especially when miller would get significantly more game time than gardiner ever did.

It doesn't but it indeed debunks your silly comment "Gardiner is a hell of a lot better than miller". Beyond your self infatuated hot air what indeed have you put up to support? Nothing but your own hyperbole.

how about you actually have an opinion of your own rhino...its very easy sitting on the fence isn't it

Better than wedging your ass on the fence post isnt it?

Freak i agree with you

gardiner is better than alot of our players!!

hahahah i dont reckon miller would have gotten close to playing a final with st kilda this year

his awreness is rubbish he is sp predictable and misses the target with handballs!!!!

miller or gardiner??

gardiner every day of the week...

hahahah i dont reckon miller would have gotten close to playing a final with st kilda this year

(edit) Gardiner played one final out of three, had no influence, and did nothing to stem the Geelong tide.

(edit) Gardiner played one final out of three, had no influence, and did nothing to stem the Geelong tide.

1 more final than miller would have played. i'm glad 'goose' knows his footy, unlike rhino who has no opinion yet slams those who do.

Michael Rix has also been delisted.

Interest?

do who always have try and be intrested in everyone that got delisted? gosh..