6. J.McDonald - Very hard worker.

5. M.Bate - Stepped it up.

4. CJ - Consistent all day.

3. Buckley - Great first 3.

2. Sylvia - Some positive signs.

1. Maric - Some good touches. Couple of goals. Progressing well.

6. Bate

5. Morton

4. C.J.

3. Sylvia

2. Buckley

1. Garland

6. Bate

5. McDonald

4. Green

3. Sylvia

2. Garland

1. Dunn(Jobe was a non factor)

6 - Sylvia

5 - Bate

4 - Morton

3 - Jamar

2 - Dunn

1 - McDonald

6 Bate

5 Morton

4 CJ

3 Green

2 Mcdonald

1 Valenti, i thought he worked hard all day

I would give one to Dunn, but i'm just not sure about the negating role. I know it's necessary, but i don't really like it when players hold other people's arms way off the ball. Whelan 16 touches at 100% i thought was pretty good.

Sylvia needs to learn to think, somehow. 23 touches, found it well, 47% efficiency not good enough

6. J.McDonald - Very hard worker.

5. M.Bate - Stepped it up.

4. CJ - Consistent all day.

3. Buckley - Great first 3.

2. Sylvia - Some positive signs.

1. Maric - Some good touches. Couple of goals. Progressing well.

No Morton, surely this can't be voted towards player of the year, if you're going to make the thread at least know the best players.

6. Bate

5. Morton

4. Dunn

3. Sylvia

2. Jamar

1. Martin

No Morton, surely this can't be voted towards player of the year, if you're going to make the thread at least know the best players.

I gave my opinion. I didnt believe Morton deserved a vote today.

I will be taking two sets of votes from the above votes and one set from Scoop Junior who is doing the match report this week.

Weighting for this game is .8709.

6 Bate

5 Morton

4 CJ

3 Green

2 Mcdonald

1 Valenti, i thought he worked hard all day

I would give one to Dunn, but i'm just not sure about the negating role. I know it's necessary, but i don't really like it when players hold other people's arms way off the ball. Whelan 16 touches at 100% i thought was pretty good.

Sylvia needs to learn to think, somehow. 23 touches, found it well, 47% efficiency not good enough

You may not like it, but if Brock is going to have it happen to him every time he plays, we need to be doing it to the other teams best midfielders. No point being unaccountable and going head to head and getting murdered by oppostion midfielders.

As i said, it is necessary, pretty unnecessary post that.

And in terms of footy smarts, Jamar has to be one of the dumbest players this decade

As i said, it is necessary, pretty unnecessary post that.

And in terms of footy smarts, Jamar has to be one of the dumbest players this decade

There really is no love for Jamar on Demonland, is there.

Seriously, he was the best ruckman on the ground today by a fair margin. He did stuff up in the goal square, but he works hard and IMO has a very good understanding of where to tap the ball, and how to help out his midfielders. We had a lot more tap-outs to advantage than Essendon did, and it was all thanks to Jamar.

He definitely deserves at least 2 votes. I respect players who are not naturally gifted but work their backside off to help out the team. Jamar has really grown since White was sent to Sandy, and that's a credit to him.

Was it twice he handballed from a free kick he had to a stationary player who then got tackled, one i certainly remember that resulted in an Essendon goal.

I'm not saying he hasn't improved his rucking, so i don't know why you went into that, but i'm saying often when he gets it he is subject to the same "brain fades" that litter Colin Sylvia's game

Was it twice he handballed from a free kick he had to a stationary player who then got tackled, one i certainly remember that resulted in an Essendon goal.

I'm not saying he hasn't improved his rucking, so i don't know why you went into that, but i'm saying often when he gets it he is subject to the same "brain fades" that litter Colin Sylvia's game

Yeah, because he's the only players in the team that handballs to stationary players. Have you met our captain?

Look Jamar is an ordinary player, but he makes the most of what he has. He plays within his limitations, he certainly uses his body well and at the moment he is significantly helping our midfield win the clearances, which is a ruckman's first and most important job. That he stuffed up a couple of handballs is hardly a massive issue. Morton's disposal wasn't great either, but people are still giving him votes.

Are you being serious?

Where did Bruce come in? When did i say he has awesome disposal...

I didn't give Jamar votes, as i don't really like "encouragement award" votes when we've had a competitive match, and instead commented on what he does when he has the ball.

Are you saying it's not stupid to handball to stationary players because other players do it? As you said, he's a pretty ordinary player who makes stupid decision with the ball. That he's improved his ruckwork is pretty irrelevant to that argument

Are you being serious?

Where did Bruce come in? When did i say he has awesome disposal...

I didn't give Jamar votes, as i don't really like "encouragement award" votes when we've had a competitive match, and instead commented on what he does when he has the ball.

Are you saying it's not stupid to handball to stationary players because other players do it? As you said, he's a pretty ordinary player who makes stupid decision with the ball. That he's improved his ruckwork is pretty irrelevant to that argument

I just think that calling someone who is clearly working hard and improving "one of the dumbest players this decade" is completely unnecessary.

And I never ever said that handballing to stationary players is not stupid, I was just pointing out that this is an issue with a lot of our players (probably as they are still adapting to Bailey's game plan), and we shouldn't hang some for it but not others.

There really is no love for Jamar on Demonland, is there.

Seriously, he was the best ruckman on the ground today by a fair margin.

2nd best. Thoguht Hille was the player that stepped up for Essendon when they needed it. We only dominated when Laycock was in the ruck

I'll have a go at anyone who does it consistently, and perhaps was overly harsh in my initial assessment, but i'll stand by not having a go at someone like Morton for it because i don't think he makes stupid decisions.

Jamar consistently does and it is a flaw. It would be a frustrating forum if everytime we have something to say about one player, we then have to trail through the other 43 players on our list comparing them all

I gave my opinion. I didnt believe Morton deserved a vote today.

Morton was almost BOG what game were you at?

6: C. Morton - his best game yet and deserving of a rising star nomination.

5: J. McDonald - last week lousy, this week very good.

4: S. Valenti - four votes for a short bloke who has real brains.

3: M. Bate - and his old school won the opener as well.

2: M. Whelan - an old, steady head down back.

1: C. Garland - continues to improve, continues to give his all.

And Sylvia wasn't too bad either.

Prob with Jamar Jaded is he did 2 bad hand balls and missed 3 goals, all getable, and there were players who did not make the same mistakes he did, yes he did well, but there were more who were better, I was trying to fit Dunn and Wheels in both who I thought were good as well.

6. Junior

5. Garland

4. Bruce

3. Morton

2. Jamar

1. Morton

Green was OK. Maric was OK. CJ is playing well. Sylvia seemed to really work when he had the ball but slackened off when he didn't have the ball. Whelan, Wheatley OK at times. The effort was there but not the execution.

Two Mortons??

1. Bartram

Whelan, Wheatley OK at times. The effort was there but not the execution.

These guys combined for 32 possessions, 29 effective, for a combined total of 91%. Don't know how much execution you want.

Morton and Sylvia were our best

These guys combined for 32 possessions, 29 effective, for a combined total of 91%. Don't know how much execution you want.

If you've got to rely on statistics you're not watching the game. Pointless chip passes to maintain possession are a blight on the game. With Wheatley and Whelan, it's what they didn't do, more than what they did. Have another lok at your stats sheet and tell me how many times they didn't get the ball or how many times their opponents had effective possessions etc. etc. stat. stat....