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Makes a lot of sense. Henderson's ball use is far superior. He was made the scape goat after our 0-5 start. He wasn't given a mid role at Casey, where he predominantly played at Werribee with HB which saw him get drafted. He was starved as a high HF then had groin issues the 2nd half of the year. Cheap and easy option to keep as a rookie.

I posted this in December of last year. As it stands, things have not changed. There have been plenty of to-ings and fro-ings, and people claiming they have spoken to Judd and that he is staying. There has been a contract put to him which he has refused to sign. Make of that what you will. Also - this is not me saying "I hope he goes". I never want to lose players with potential or players that have played well. I hope we keep him, but he seems an obvious one to trade should we be trying to get back into the draft.

I'll agree with you on one thing - we had spud fowards

I have. And he will not be adding anything to our team or list. There is a reason he has not played a game at GWS in nearly 4 years

@Dannyz any update on who the 6 that include Buckley are?

Yes - and he does not enthuse me at all. Could almost say that about (insert name here) - and give you a long list of blokes that might go ok at VFL level but aren't up to AFL. Jack Billings.

What is the club's obsession with this bloke? We've already got JVR and Jefferson. The bloke has shown nothing Tim Lamb must have photos. I cannot for the life of me see how he stays if the new CEO is about accountability.

For one, I would hope that had we inflicted that level of pain onto Geelong that our players would walk taller/many of our supporters wouldn't blink if Gawn or Oliver did something like that in jest. Having said this, no one knows the context of what Kelly was actually doing - it could have been a joke within part of the playing group, it could have been him joking that winning was getting boring - it certainly did not seem like a dig at Melbourne. This would have ZERO bearing on the coaching selection process.

absolutely spot on. Ridiculous some of the commentary here

agree - but regardless, Richardson has to go. He and Tim Lamb are the final pieces of the messy puzzle

Appreciate that mate. One thing I would say about Kelly, is that he has seen a successful environment at Geelong as a player and as a coach. Living down here and knowing a few of their staff through my workplace/working in football, they have very clear but different philosophies on how to get the best out of footballers. I would be very happy with him...

Mark Neeld was a good choice according to Mick Malthouse... Fagan saying Daly is excellent means nothing IMO. Has has been mentioned, think David Noble as well. It's hit and miss.

Quick one - you don't have King on this list. So out of Gia and Montgomery for the 6th spot if we take a combo of Dannyz and news stories...? Well done though :)

Doesn't bode well then for the supposed 'leaks' if Dannyz finds out

How do you know that this is the 6?

Appreciate this then. I am not sold on Skipwroth but would be happy with any of Buckley, Enright, Lade or Kelly. Not sure about Daly either - reeks of David Noble.

Source? Or this is gut?

Bit would have to go wrong as in - he's gone?

No Dees in that speaks volumes about our over estimation of the list and supposed 'young talent' when we have bang average players like JVR, Jefferson, Adams, Woewodin, Howes....all taken in those 21/22 drafts that you're seeing players. Windsor might end up ok, jury out on Kolt. Langford and Lindsay too early to tell. Hoyney spoke about this last night on SEN re champion data ratings - we only have Gawn, Trac, Oliver, Rivers in the top 100 in comp. Premiership sides normally have 8,9, or 10.

And yet my criticism of Green on this forum has often been hosed down. I loved Greeny as a player, and I love the fact that he has wanted to help out the club he loves just as much as us, but he has been a significant problem this year, and continues to be

Not sure why there is so much Caro hate on this forum. She is, unusually(!), most often right and has an incredible network of connections within the industry she has developed over a long period of time. FWIW, a lot of her friends are Melbourne supporters and people well-connected to the club. Is it her fault if people are leaking to her/other journos? I'd be looking within more and asking why this sort of information gets out so easily. I think her reporting is always balanced and she has hit the nail on the head here: why have we not an update from the Board/Green about the Presidency?? There should be instant change, and I am worried that perhaps Smith has re-negged and happy to be on the Board but doesn't want the top gig. Green has displayed his incompetency (and yes, thanks for stepping in etc.) from his weak and pathetic open letters throughout the year.

Carlton will not move on Voss this season - despite the noise and rhetoric, Rob Priestly will not do that. He doesn't operate like that. Graham Wright has been given the license to get creative and regenerate the list, but Voss will be backed to see out his contract. This is a positive for us, because anyone wanting a gig now/not having to wait for tassie gets to go through the process

Laughable if you think Taylor recruits players from other clubs

He drafts them mate. Lamb does the recruiting of players

Appreciate that - ratings do take into consideration all metrics including with and without the footy, but it's based on similar players and positions as well as the player's historical form and ratings. I don't disagree with who replaces them and we are likely 'stuck' for want of a better word given contract size and length. However, I want to see Windsor, Langford, Lindsay all go through with Pickett and play Trac more fwd/maybe even rotate Oliver through the fwd line more to give exposure to these players. General list demographic as has been stated is quite alarming given no real swathe of talent between 23-28 yo. Some tough decisions ala Hawthorn 2016 need to be made.