Red and Blue Flame

I make it that we have 33 on the list now - with Tomlinson and Joel Smith (who everyone seems to have forgotten about) probably going...so could leave 31-32. So with only 2 picks, seems we would upgrade two of our rookies (McVee and AMW?) as minimum on senior list is 36. Unless we are doing some more deals today to get in more picks...

I do. Because Brisbane don't have a top 5 pick. Thus our pick 5 becomes pick 6 if someone in first 5 bids on him (which they will). I'm not sure you really get whats happening...

Not a chance that someone doesn't bid on Ashcroft. He is the best player in the draft

Please remember this is likely pick 6 and 10 after Levi Ashcroft gets to Brisbane, and possible other academies could push pick 10 out as well.

today's presser? where?

@Moonshadow hits the nail on the head. Couldn't help but think about this yet again last night. And before I get shot down, please don't talk about 'effort'. The club's "we fought to the end" social media post at FT just about sums us up. It's picking and choosing - that isn't sustained or consistent, 4 qtrs of effort, as that would suggest we fought the whole game. We didn't. Time to actually get serious - which I give the club credit for doing in their pursuit of May and Lever. Hibberd was also a fine recruit. Melksham has also turned out to be excellent - but apart from that, we have been devoid of any astute recruiting. It's time to make the hard calls. Not up to it: - Schache - McAdam - Billings - Laurie Hasn't come on: - Bowey (some injuries, yes) - Sparrow (too one dimensional) - Chandler (signs a new deal and then shows flashes/hasn't played well since). Trade potential: - Salem (thanks for your wonderful service and a flag, but injuries and health have taken over) - Fritsch (rarely applies pressure - all the talent in the world, but hollywood) Oliver is a must keep. Absolute generational mid who had no pre-season, all the off field issues, broke his hand when he shouldn't have been playing, kept playing when he shouldn't have. Positives: - McVee and Rivers have kept going and will be super - Woewodin has shown enough to get some more game time (stunted as the super sub too often) - Windsor and Tholstrupp - JVR only his 2nd year (people assume he's a 4th/5th year player) - Oliver and Trac still under 30. - Moniz-Wakefield looks hungry and ready Gawn and May are now 32. Viney nearly 30. Time to get serious.

Never a truer post posted... Honestly. When will this club wake up and realise that the last few years have been abject failures?!?!?! The recruiting has been nothing short of disgraceful. You could also argue that the Bowey/Laurie draft has not delivered. So other than some good drafting, we have been woeful. This list deserved better management

Anyone spotted Jed Adams at pre season training?? Yet to see him/hear about him - even last week when it was just 1- year players

Also, if Melksham is moved onto a rookie contract, frees up another spot

Hasn't gone through yet?

OUT: Hibberd, Dunstan, Jordon, Harmes, Grundy, Smith (Rookie) IN: Fullarton, McAdam Draft picks currently: x 3 (One could be used to upgrade McVee) So we have 3 senior spots left

who was it?

agreed. Port have copped it in the past, and rightly so. 21 is a long way away now. rear view stuff. Reality is we choked hard. End of. Be better, get more ruthless and get back to attracting blokes like May and Lever to the club and be aggressive with list

This club needs to be more ruthless. It got credit for targeting Lever and May and broke the stereotype of safe recruiting/drafting. Those moves proved to be masterstrokes that basically got us the flag in '21 along with some decent drafting. Unfortunately, we are yet to nail a FWD. With the picks we currently have + what we will get for: Grundy, Harmes, Jordon, we must be aggressive. Gawn is 31. Yes Petty looks good, and yes JVR will hopefully come on/Jefferson might get exposure, but injuries happen - as we've seen the last two years and therefore we need depth. We need a FWD for the next 2-4 years while JVR and Jefferson learn their craft. It is no good throwing JVR to the wolves getting the best defender each week as a 20 yo.

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Nearly at 1k signatures. If everyone could share the petition in their social networks, amongst football fans. We are really only going to make a difference if we are 100k+ https://www.change.org/p/free-jacob-van-rooyen?redirect=false Thanks to all who have signed so far :)

yeah got it on fb - hoping thru word of mouth everyone will also spread to their dees mates and general footy fans

Petition @ 88 sigs...need to get all supporters, members and general footy supporters to sign this! reckon there were 1,000s of people commenting on social media. Get behind this and share https://www.change.org/p/free-jacob-van-rooyen

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Let's get this to 100k

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hmmmmm

Then we play hard and say that Kozzie is also a required player.

If Kozzie goes, the equation is quite simple. We will demand Zak Butters. Butters is from Victoria.