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That definitely doesn't help, but the manner in which we just give up is the most embarrassing thing. Teams who roll over like don't win flags.

Again, I think its disingenuous to be commenting on his skills and ability given the circumstances. Lever has hardly had the opportunity to demonstrate his wares at this club in his current tenure. Posters on here seem to have a very short memory as I recall him starting to hit some pretty good form prior to his knee injury against the dogs. It's no secret that a player's skills will suffer when they are running around the ground stuffed from a lack of fitness and game time. He definitely is not on his own here. EDIT: Also worth pointing out that Lever played one VFL game before returning from injury and injured himself again. In my honest opinion, they should have delayed hsi return by another month. I'm not Dave Misson though...

Are we seriously potting a bloke who has: Just come off a year long break from an ACL injury; Hasn't completed a pre-season; Has played less than 20 games for the club; and Is playing in a backline that has been both putrid and had a load of pressure put on them from a one way midfield, not to mention the revolving door of VFL players. I'll reserve judgement for when we have at least have half the list fit and he has had a decent run at it. Young and smart intercepting defenders with leadership qualities don't grow on trees. Apologies if someone else has already pointed this out, I haven't read all the posts in this thread.

Thank you. Not sure how easy this is to fix, but if we can somehow in the off season address it, maybe there is hope?

Does any one have the scores from turnovers stat?

Is misson going scorched earth before leaving?

Our complete inability to change game plans and respond to a team changing tactics on show here. A few players have been very average, but no attempt to change things up. Move trac into the middle for [censored] sake.

Tough on Joel Smith. I honestly believe he is going to be a very good player. Looked like he was about to tear the game apart before injury in the pre season.

How I feel watching a certain player.

There is a serious lack of belief out there. We all know our players can hit a Target and can pick up the ball. We watched it for a season.

We are playing like a team trying not to get flogged, not one trying to win.

Wrapped to see Hunt in the votes. You get the feeling he is the sort of player that thrives on confidence. Hoping he kicks on this week.

It's funny how a win completely changes people's perspective on here. If we had lost in a closer battle (which it could have been if Swans had taken earlier chances) some players on here getting praise would be under the blow torch. Oscar has to go in my opinion. I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a while as I have always thought people (particularly on the facebook groups) rate him lower than he actually is, but he has been downright awful this year. He is far too slow and has no physical presence. The commentators were creaming themselves when Heeney took that mark on a "2 on 1". Let's not kid ourselves, that was 1.2 on 1 with me being generous. Oscar's heels barely left the turf. Jones was lucky he nailed those 3 goals because if we had lost and those were behinds, the pitchforks would be well and truly out again. He continuously butchers the pill from dangerous positions. I'm not saying Jones needs to be dropped, but if he really is going to lead from the front, he should start by not hoofing it 50m into a packed forward line every time he gets the ball. Fumbles....What the hell is with the fumbles? Numerous times we looked to be clean out of the middle or defence only for one of our mids (Harmes and Trac probably the biggest offenders) to fumble it and turn it over. I am putting this down to confidence issues as it was much more evident when we were getting towelled up in the first half. I thought Trac was pretty good tonight, but you still feel like he is stuck in 2nd gear. Just needs to find a way to get more involved. I firmly believe he can be our De Goey and possibly even better. Not sure if its a work rate issue or just learning the game. Would love to see him lead for the ball better. He actually looked really good one out in forward line last week. The forward line suits Hunt, but he still needs to learn how to side-step. If he can somehow add some evasiveness to his game he could have kicked 4 or 5 last night. I know this sounds like I'm having a major dig at a good performance and win, but I still fear against some more efficient teams this game would have been all over by half time like it was against the cats. It was however nice to see us improve our efficiency inside 50. Something that had me baffled though was how we played in the last quarter when we were protecting our lead. Inside of winning it out of the middle or defensive 50 and rushing it to the other end only to bomb it, we slowed it down and picked out players and leads. We looked composed and polished. When the ball rebounded, we won it back and didn't panic. Why can't we balance this style of play with our manic pressure? It just seems our gameplan is far too favoured towards playing the territory game at the sacrifice of possession. We have demonstrated so many times that winning i50s does not equal more scoring and in more cases causes more scores against. Our mids gets far too committed to pushing into the attack and when it goes over there heads, it leaves our backs exposed with forwards getting goal side. In my opinion, this has to change if we are to make any challenge this season. I honestly don't believe the addition of May or Lever would make a difference. Most defenders don't do well running towards their defensive goal. We really need to [censored] the saints next week and make a statement.

Been using this all Summer for the cricket. Just an FYI for anyone with the old Chromecast, you will need to upgrade to the new one. Kayo was horrendous on my old Chromecast, but on the new one it has been almost flawless. Only issues have been around streams randomly disconnecting or starting from the beginning of the stream rather than the live part.

We got 8 tickets in M5 in Row 5. Absolutely stoked!

Really like the look of Baker. Moves well.

Tyson is way too good for this. His kicking has been quality too.

Did anyone see him take a mark across halfback on Saturday and try the hollywood pass into the corridor (sorry you're not Melksham, Tmac) only to turn it over to the dogs in a dangerous position? I thought I was having a flashback from the Neeld days.

Thanks heaps Petrac. The degree of difficulty certainly looked a lot tougher from where we were sitting, but taking nothing away from Melk, that is a beautiful piece of play. Brayshaw didn't have to move!

Yeah saw that one too. Not quite as penetrating but almost as damaging! He has been worth every cent.

Did anyone see Jake Melksham's absolute dagger of a pass in the third quarter to Brayshaw? I was sitting on the back flank on the upper level and had the perfect view of it and it was one of the best passes I have ever seen. The pass absoIutely sliced open the dogs and resulted in a goal. I actually muttered "holy [censored]" and was gob smacked. The bloke has an absolute leg on him. Rarely wastes a kick. Can anyone gif the replay?

Has player ever been dropped after kicking four goals?

Jaguar Landrover would be the obvious choice.

My colleague worked in finance at FCA (Fiat Chrysler Auto) which owns Jeep and said their partnership with Richmond was worth its weight in gold. It generated more return than most of their other advertising.

I'm really hoping this falls over and we have to keep him.