Tolstoys Nudge

I’m so filthy.. I hair wanna make that clear!!! I’m physically manifesting decades of media wrongdoing and solicitousness to absolutely fundamentally undermine all we do! Barrett, King (sometimes), Russell, Taylor, Hutchy, Sellers, Carey, Wilson, Thomas, Robinson, Connolly, G Healy (pre flag) the list goes on and on.. they undermine all we do and any other club making top (bar Saints maybe) 3yrs running would be glorified beyond all realms but we can’t even get 2 in the AA team, what a crock!!! Thanks the LORD for smart footy peeps like Whelo, Swamp & Hoyne (and even Cornes this year) for seeing our team for what it is, peaking strategically at right time! Have a great time tonight gents, if I’m still filthy later I’ll call in perhaps but can’t wait to on hear your thoughts, you guys have become the new beacon of our demons-week here at home where me and the 3 kids listen religiously! Well done again. I’ve been here at Demonland board since the early days and never imagined the podcast would become this good.. I nearly started my own just cus I used to think there was nothing out there and now here we are, whereby it’s now the definitive podcast for all of footy imho 👏🏻

The Harley deal could mean he is right — it’ll now be likely they take the compo needed to get Liam Henry, still hope but looking less likely than it was 6-12wks ago & even a week ago.

Get ready for the Demon Harley — it’s coming! Would have to be a monumental change of beliefs & player ratings from now to October for it to fall over. Get excited!!! This kid is sheer dynamite & as for ceiling, his is Gar superior to ANY of this or last years draft choices, don’t even begin to argue about it, just ask JT. Personally, I’d of been wrapped with Watson & Sanders but Harley could be anything.

Dominion, Dee-minion 👌🏻

I agree but he is always gonna be linked cus he’s Victorian and at a club not winning for 3-5yrs after already being [censored] for 4

Exactly

Incorrect, esp when multiple clubs in same state — dees are under no obligation to trade yes not uncontracted mate that’s the diff

Exactly — they likely wouldn’t even if we did convince him to move.. but u have to be in it to win it right

They’ll pay if it means getting a higher pick, that’s absolutely certain!!! Just depends on the cash to reward ratio amigo

Hey mate, all I know is that right now it’s just due diligence & having the convo with plyr agents etc — Only one I know for certain they’re even slightly bullish on going back a ways is Allen — I think Georgiadis is one I’ve heard most of that helps!!!

Tommo not surprising at all, in 21’ he lead comp, prior to knee — with 1 lost contest I blv. His issue is speed off mark, that’s it!

It’ll be a bidding war, assuming he will go interstate, if not — I’m telling you we will keep him! that bargaining power alone even if it’s jsut Geelong he nominates, — ergo, no bidding war — that alone should mean we get a 1st rndr esp if we pay a small Amy of salary as that’ll up the currency even more. Staying 65% IMHO. But right. Is, that’s solely opinion based.

Will retire. 💯 I’m told (barring miracle knee swelling dissipation within 3-4wks) Club is already now approaching higher $$$ fwd targets and it’s only reason we’re also considering Grundy move ie free cap for a ‘play now’ Fwd. **DISCLAIMER** Do not read if you’re a troll as you will undoubtedly be triggered. I’m lucky enough to get to talk to many club & AFL folk through my work and regularly ask Q’s for my own excitement (in fact I don’t ask anymore as they now just share cus they know if they tell me not to I won’t) so pls ignore below if you can’t handle the fact that clubs openly talk to agents and players about potential moves in a volume that’s completely obscenely larger than you’d ever imagine, I won’t answer Q’s cus I can’t & wont get specific for no other reason than I’ll be breaking a prof trust (unless I get approval to or it’s form a non direct source ie a media type or club insider not employed by the AFL, a club or player) & I like having solid relationships, simples. My intent as always is to share some fun info to help fellow Demonlanders know some interesting stuff, ie stuff I’d wanna know before I had the lucky happenstance of getting this type of info… Thus, there’s no perniciousness or subversive or egotistical function or form to it whatsoever — Deal with it or DO NOT READ on!!!*** Dreaming (probably) Targets: (chase cus gotta ask to know) Allen, McKay, King, Naughton (hate kicking but like versatility as cover for May of Jeffs/Roo develop as planned), Walker (god he’d be ideal for 12-24m, but no chance), Dixon Genuine Targets: Georgiadis, McLean, L McDonald, Darling, Silvagni, Fullarton, Jones, Day, Hayes, DGB, Koschitzke, Reid, Waterman, Edwards, Coleman-Jones, Treacy, McLaughlin, Derkson, Voss, Burgess Kuek. — Garoni, Keitel, (non-afl listed), Backup Ruck/Fwd Targets: S Hayes, Fullarton, Teakle, Bryan, Edwards, Miller, Ruck Targets (if Grundy does go): S Hayes, Phillips (rumours of coaxing out of retirement), Flynn, Pruess, Goldy, Sweet Clubs pref desired toolkit (as given to player agents): Aggression, Competitive edge, Finishing *Bold denotes heard from multiple sources (2* diff ppl or 1 w/further source named) I’ll share some non-key-fwd names further along as right now it’s pretty sparse.

WHAT?!?! valie has inc CONSIDERABLY, the eye of the be(holder) being awe hold ALL cards. Why we’d trade him for anything less than top 18 pick is beyond me. No salary cover either, 3 teams or more bidding = Dees have the nuts. id prefer to keep him, Max is 3yrs older & I can smell an injury if we do trade Grundy. But if we get good cover, sure trade him but only on OUR terms!!!

Roos coaches will assure that ain’t happening, own benefit is GC jumping Freo I guess but boy I rkn odds of NM winning are $30-1

That’s a false narrative and is solely aimed at NM compensation pick being first rnd if over $800k so bombers will go or that to benefit Roos and manipulate system so that they get Pick 2 now, let’s hope AFL see thru it but unlikely it seems. Deal will then be renegotiated at the real rate ($630k-ish) Ala Daniher deal!!!

King kicked 5 doing this on Andrew’s LW

Twitter account is @AFLlab

Unsure if @Binman or you guys see these ratings but they’re my main POR for all things footy right now alongside Hoyne’s true player ratings, superb insight & measure!

We found him 10m ago, but yes now it’s official! special mention to all my fellow Petty for FF die hard, you Know whom you are.. those that went to sleep picturing those dukes doing exactly what they did Sunday evening & tearing a Defense apart, preying somewhat quietly that he get jsut one more chance to show it ergo he would’ve be Pies if not injured!!!

Sorry boys I know it’s too late but I can’t resist asking if you’re now onboard with my thoughts re pulling trigger late vs Lions and the power of it — do you now see it? Do you now blv? Loved Hoyne (who’s the best in business) also agreeing Lions played some of best footy seen Ala kicking in that Qtr 2-3 being supported statistically & we just had to ride through it. Proud of our coaching group, let’s hope it’s wasn’t pulled too early, the Petty move is one I’ve always been HUGE on & couldn’t be happier to see come to fruition, it’s been staring us in face since Lions game last year, and it’s been clear as day it’s what we needed with HP hands & movement, it not only makes him dangerous but brings our smalls in and most of all his VOICE & Comms is essential and when Fritta comes back boy are we gonna be dangerous. They made the necessary adjustments & Grundy was a HIGE call no matter how you slice it, took BALLS of steel and it’s not necessarily over for him but it is now a 4-1 shot he returns in the scheme of it but things change often & thus it’s not mute by any stretch & I expect him to give Max a rest soon & then maybe be a potential decoy/double bluff option come finals where big bodies with skill MATTER & as a resting big Taking 4th defender for 2-3m a qtr, my WORD he could be handy & that’s how it was meant to work Ala preseason, it personnel changed & meant resting ruck was taking 2nd/3rd best defender instead, entirely diff proposition. Final thought on that — Grundy coming back when Fritta does so he’s resting as 4th tall is now 💯 on, even if 4-1 it’s 4-1 each week for 8wks meaning it’s likely at some stage remember that!!! But the real masterstroke is having a FRESH Max thanks to Brodie being there (never forget that should he not ever play again this year, but he will play next year this is Max’s swan song if he plays solo ruck, he WONT be doing it next year no way in hell) and a fresh CLARRY thanks to circumstance and mgmt! Our balk movement was 💯 put away post r4/5 & was always coming back — strap in fellas it’s gonna be a much tighter ride than 2021 but as a result the potential reward will mean it might feel even better (cus in shootouts, we’re not gonna see blowouts, we’re gonna need to come from behind a lot & have others come to us Ala crows but we might just end up 1-16pts in front & that’s the key. Suddenly ppl outside of Demonland realise Max is so far the best player and immovable object in comp it’s not even close let alone best Ruck, but they have forgotten that a fit Clarry might just be his equal! CANNOT wait — love your work this podcast is building and mainstream media muppets are just starting to cotton on despite what we have to still come back, so pumped!

Edited post for Andy: (Final, pls ignore prev post, I’d delete it if I could but work meant I had to stop & start edit which made it almost unreadable 😞) I just wanted to say my bit to align to Binman’s 2023 rhetoric — which is spot-on!!! Boy, I’m so charged to have a coaching panel that’s being SMARTER in 2023 & fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream-media-bots w/their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having zero idea as to what MFC are building, not to mention the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, that Selwyn has the boys super fit & more-dangerously the point — has them believing in that Aerobic excellence to the point where we sense we can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr!!! Buckley even tried to back over his verbal-faecal-matter LW saying for large part of the game he was right about MFC “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance + some of the best kicking i’ve seen in 35+ years of footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman & I concur — this innate belief throughout the coaching & playing group is coming to the fore now, despite not having 2 of our absolute best & adroit players. That’s what concession can do (expected score has us +26 to expected btw) So I’m interested in each of you opening up on how you sre taking that last 12m & if you see it being let-loose now or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but wow, what a show! DON’T SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Nibs miss, Roo chance at end of qtr & more) & the ONLY Lions goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru). It’ll be intriguing to see if SG locks away this beast-mode or will he now back us to maintain it for 6wks & Finals? My thought is that it’s prob still too early to let cat out of bag, as teams can study it & try to combat it & show other teams a “how-to” guide, risky! Will we go back to 80% beast-mode & only break-glass if needed? May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get apoplectic induced nibbles from tribe) only other combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd, but that’s in-shed atm! Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic & delivered with false temerity that I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games as it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks & shows the hegemony of our Club. Lastly, love to know if you felt THAT coming as I did, ie you were seeing Brisbane’s fear with them locking thing a up & seemingly worried bout our firepwr & fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that perfect OR if — like I would of been 4y ago — were you tossing out bubs with its dirty bath water? @binman How much SHOULD SG let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up? I’m sure you’ll unpack what this beast-mode looked like but to see our normal DNA in there, w/just those small —yet beautiful & largely unseen prior to now —adjustments of: creating more space in the hit-zone (where we either mark or create stoppage) w/some late, smartly held leading patterns that don’t rely on blocks ergo aren’t obvious, added urgency on Ball-carrier to be on move (w/run by bball, Shepard for man coming to contest w/speed etc that’s clearly instructed to BURST once they control loose-ball, break-lines thru halfway to d50 & look for 15-20m hit up thats designed to get deeper entry @speed etc etc — This Is what I’ve been waiting for & we got it in spades. That stuff isn’t instinct, it’s practiced & it verifies loads of pre-season focus, that’s the exciting part —- it means it’s been clearly HELD-BACK!!! Clubs need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… But boy, we’re loaded & ready to explode you can take that to the bank whilst picturing a non-niggle-laden Clarry (which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now as he’s been banged up for 3 years), absolutely flying R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥 This is a special group guys, so strap in!!! Yes I’m super-positive, an antidote to Andy’s MFCSS, but like Binman - it’s for a reason.. The closer I look at data the more I #believeinthedees 2023 Campaign & relish the strategy behind it. Yet not one media-bot outside Kornes (who’d of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle! Mainstream media: Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats. Which I’m certain Mr Poker-Face himself, Goody — is all the more happy with!!!

I’ll edit out anything repeated from My post to make your life easier, how’s that? (Which I’ve now done)

If you wanna work em in, go for — I just didn’t wanna create too much work for you mate! Some new content so both may have a place (re moving fwd & team structure yep. Repeat is more in the vibe than the content I think but I trust you implicitly & this defer 😎

Sorry Andy, I’m fired up this morning & made a meal of the vmail service — 2m thing really threw — might be too late to work into the pod but I just wanted to say my bit to align to Binman’s 2023 rhetoric — which is spot-on!!! Boy, how excited I am to have a coaching panel that’s being SMARTER in 2023 & fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream-media-bots w/their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having zero idea as to what MFC are building, not to mention the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, that Slewyn has the boys super fit & more-dangerously the point — has them believing in that Aerobic excellence to the point where we sense we can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr!!! Buckley even tried to back over his verbal-faecal-matter LW saying for large part of the game he was right about MFC “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance + some of the best kicking i’ve seen in 35+ years of footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman & I concur — this innate belief throughout the coaching & playing group is coming to the fore now, despite not having 2 of our absolute best & adroit players. That’s what concession can do (expected score has us +26 to expected btw) So I’m interested in each of you opening up on how you sre taking that last 12m & if you see it being let-loose now or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but wow, what a show! DON’T SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Nibs miss, Roo chance at end of qtr & more) & the ONLY Lions goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru). It’ll be intriguing to see if SG locks away this beast-mode or will he now back us to maintain it for 6wks & Finals? My thought is that it’s prob still too early to let cat out of bag, as teams can study it & try to combat it & show other teams a “how-to” guide, risky! Will we go back to 80% beast-mode & only break-glass if needed? May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get apoplectic induced nibbles from tribe) only other combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd, but that’s in-shed atm! Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic & delivered with false temerity that I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games as it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks & shows the hegemony of our Club. Lastly, love to know if you felt THAT coming as I did, ie you were seeing Brisbane’s fear with them locking thing a up & seemingly worried bout our firepwr & fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that perfect OR if — like I would of been 4y ago — were you tossing out bubs with its dirty bath water? @binman How much SHOULD SG let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up? Clubs need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… But boy, we’re loaded & ready to explode you can take that to the bank whilst picturing a non-niggle-laden Clarry (which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now as he’s been banged up for 3 years), absolutely flying R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥 This is a special group folks, strap in!!! Yes I’m super-positive, an antidote to Andy’s MFCSS, but like Binman - it’s for a reason.. The closer I look at data the more I #believeinthedees 2023 Campaign & relish the strategy behind it. YET not one media person outside Kornes (who’d of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle! Mainstream media: Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats. Which I’m certain Mr Poker-Face himself, Goody — is all the more happy with!!!