Tolstoys Nudge

In my opinion, this is the best deal we may ever have done besides Farmer for Phil Gilbert! Up there with Tyson/Salem deal too.. Who's hating on Mahoney now???

Well unless that's what he read but he did heard not read and I'm assuming it's been reported elsewhere also then! Mahoney is a sound bloke to head such a coup - never mind that!

Don't shoot the messenger champ - not one of mine! I don't post anything I hear first hand anymore remember, fear of angry Mob syndrome etc.. Mate text me this saying he heard this in Melb and that were pitching to his Mgmt I assumed it was out there already! Clearly not - But we are Brisbane's preferred option apparently.

Coincidentally I just attended Cubs Mets G1 @ Citifield the other night lol But no, I'm referring to our pitching skills @ MFC.. Late mail that were talking with him Now-ish in a last minute steal attempt. Can't see us pulling it but who knows

Fingers crossed we pull off a miracle with Aish.. All depends on the pitching skills from here!

Apologies for actually attempting to explain the reasoning behind my position. I guess I should just cave and become a sniper like most of you cool cats.. It's just so easy it seems lazy, anyone can one line snipe without having any sort of huspa of their own to put forward. Wish I could spot you types out in the members, oh that's right - I can.. You're the ones who keep yelling out "kick the bloody thing" & "MAN UP DEES".. lol Sorry I feel dirty after just one mini snipe, your right - hibernation time indeed!

Apologies. But I was transfixed on the neg energy prior to your query mate, that's all! I have no thoughts on it - it's merely something the club has openly spoken about with GCS without avail it appears! Wouldn't wanna offer thoughts - it'd be treated as gospel!

Well I'm not trying to say anything other than how bad this site has become in terms of negativity.. It's pathetic! You really just affirmed my whole point which I admit is fairly arbitrary.. But be that as it may, you my friend - are the exact type of dribbling vermin that turns ppl away from this type of a community.. Just exactly why such hostility and whom are you so angry at? I suggest your answer lies quite close to the loin of your cloth.. LittleMan

Bahahaha!!! You have ZERO football understanding do you? Just how many teams have landed that type of talent without it being known weeks prior or Judd, Tippett, Buddy, Dangerfield, Etc landing a big fish just isn't done, the point is we are having a real crack and have much in the works i.e. Prestia, Gaff whereby it's on the cards at least! So so ignorant to make a statement like that.. How Many of Hawthorn's flags have come from landing big fish? How about Collngwood who've been trying to land one since 1985 and still haven't (Buckley was a kid it doesn't count, Lockett, Carey, Campbell, Rooey) or let's go back to 1994 pre season.. Dees had 2 miserable years and were viewed as an aging talent less list, so we go after a big BIG fish with 4X more money than his current club offered. For weeks it was a DONE deal, he's ours, wow.. The Majestic Peter Matera.. UNREAL! We have hope, finally! However, due to his family receiving threats and threats in his life by fans as well as cultural ties and responsibility, he jerks at last Minute and Dees are left STUNNED & holding the bucket.. DOOMED now, that's all I heard.. GONE! We are TOAST.. Instead we recruited "muppets" like Some "Pike" Bloke, some Doyle & a hack named Hilton who looks like a poor mans fat Stinger (Tingay), oh and a reluctant SA creepy poindexter lookin' bloke named "PRYMKE".. We're such idiots! The rest is history, and had it not been for a poor travel experience to WA and a raging angry WCE - many blv we would have stolen a flag from a shaky Cats whom we had matched up well on.. So my point is - well.. JUST SHHHHH!!! Cheers Go Dees!!!

True - and it's merely a reiteration of the aforementioned strategy and meant to be an optimistic view of coming years, not a trade prediction, LOL.. So as for "relying" on in of them i.e. Prestia being true, I couldn't give a horses which it is or none, Im just glad it's the club's goal and what they're pursuing.. And that the players are actually willing to listen now, unlike with previous regime - where'd we'd be laughed out of the room. Crikwy it's become even worse now than I thought.. Wow! I wasn't making a prediction or showing any sort of insight apart from the one small half one re Didon, as yes sure we're poking around i.e. When we sat with GCS it's come up but I'm sure it has for many clubs, again - it's merely a bit of tongue in cheek optimism folks.. I'm not hoping for a correct premonition hahaha I'm hoping we start winning games, and as I said, we'll do that more with our kids than any trades.. I don't care if it comes from no trades, I just want to smile again and enjoy us having a crack at September.. Boy oh boy.. Even reverberating my view on Bastinac and how it looks less likely now is taking pot shots, what on gods earth is wrong with some of you ppl??? Go Dees

Great call, jet lag get me again. Salem may be the best of the lot n terms of importance to the structure - best decision disposal eff guy we have!!! We just need 3-4 more lol but White may just be one, maybe Petracca too!

I'm not or using anything, other than optimism and public knowledge! Or close to it. Josh M would quite that if asked, Prestia etc being targets and has re Parker and Dion already. We have a need i.e. a grade decision making accumulating mid, so any who isn't totally locked up 100%, we will inquire about, big DEAL! Does that mean we will get any or all? heck NO!!! I gave up sharing data years ago due to ppl such as yourself not having the intellectual capacity to understand how his crazy insane and often joke of a period works, and how many players and deals get spoken about during this 3-4 week period. 18 teams, 40 odd players - 720 players total. I'd say at least 10-12 players per club are lairs as trades me when the first round of sit downs are done, maybe 15 even depending on the club and whom they're talking too as there's a lot of political savvy involved i.e. Melbourne hate dealing with Richmond going back years, Bombers won't deal with pies etc etc. anyways my point is, most of you can't seem to understand how this works. Each club sits with each other club or via Skype, and all have a list of assets broken down into sectors i.e. Tradeable, untouchable etc as well as list of needs i.e. "Outside speed, "grunt", "Decision maker", "Def Fwd", "Line breaker" blah blah.. They also have these lists for each other club and their own assessment of that list. When they talk initially it's all about needs so froth and each club learns agenda of each other club, then.. Flood gates open and names thrown about left right and center.. Of these hundreds of names linked or spoken about with 3-4 clubs each, so that's already 400 possibilities - about 10-12% will get any further than "spit ball" phase. Even then, only 2-3% will ever come to fruition. Not to mention the 50 deals that go right to the line and still don't get done.. It's incredible! So thus, mentioning them on such a forum instead of "cool info" it's treated as bloody gospel and your held that these "deals" actually happening which the odds of, are literally slim to none so it's dead mans game if ppl wanna hold you to every little word spoken by the footy dept's.. So anyway, I digress - I truly do blv our football club is in great hands and love the vision, which INCLUDES: Prestia, Parker, Gaff targeting etc.. Sure I can mention 15 players were inquiring about right now or this morning anyways, but why??? Despite always row facing with the same caution i.e. Don't expect many if any to come to fruition, ppl still want to make themselves feel good by shooting down information that I'm passing on that I thought as a demon supporter was pretty neat and handy to know what direction the club. Looking other than the PR given to the mass media. As through my business and line of work I'm privy to some by mere opportunity rather than exclusivity! Again, even though many years I'd post something and next day it'd be in mass media, but, because it didn't eventuate, that's MY Fault & ergo l, I am a [censored] talker wasting MY OWN TIME TYPING RANDOM CRAP JUST FOR KICKS! So bugger you and all of you negative, poor self image folks who want to ruin it for all. Such a sad state our culture has become, if it's not something we come up with do from our own hand, it must be shat on, just cus! Nasty. But, GO DEES!!!

Yes, play on words re baby and bath water but if a liberal puss take but perhaps it's too slick.. Haha! Take a stab? Well considering the club has those players in its sights isn't a stab as such, just a scope of the players were talking to. I'd say Gaff or Prestia most likely, and Parker not Hannebury my mistake - jet lag issue there I'm afraid, I'll edit if can be bothered, it's 5pm here in NYC & I'm feeling "meh".. The negativity is tiring, I hate the whole "wow is me, I'm the only suffering dees supporter, Wah Wah bloody WAH"... This current administration and footy dept hasn't done a thing poorly just yet so I'm not willing to smash them for past people's mistakes.. PJ, Goody, Roosy, McCartney, Mahoney - I like the vision and happen to blv in them with a high level of trust! Bartlett is a schrude operator too, trust me. Demons supporters, it's the rainy days and long winters that make the sunshine such a powerful, emotive experience - so enjoy the climb back - may be sooner than you think, or it may take 3-4 years.. Ask a dogs supporter this time last year how they FELT about the direction, total disarray this exact day last year - id list the amount of reasons but can't be bothered.. But that's footy! Hogan will re sign, have a crack at the JC with 60+ Goals, We'll share another 2-3 great players all of whom will be best 22 and have a role to play, Tyson will finish top 10 brownlow, Petracca will win the NAB RS or go close, kick 30 goals.. And who knows - we may even pull off Prestia & Pick 3 for Howe, first rounder next year and pick 6 But I didn't say that.. Lol (it's far more likely to be Howe & 6 for Dion only.. ☺️) I'm out.

OH MY GOD! Enough negativity.. Well AFL.COM writing team used here demon sliding doors prediction as "some believe demons paid overs for a melksham, we think that in 12 months - Melksham for 25 will look real good for the Dees." I'm para-phrasing slightly but the half back plan works for me and trade period is barely underway, just wait! There'll be 50+ deals done this period, or close to it. Trust in the men paid to and passionate about returning this club to the top end, I do. Our new star is already there, 95% of "stars" are drafted, not traded for. Vines, Hogan, Brashaw, Petracca (better than any kid in this years draft and would be most obv #1 pick in history if drafted this year), Gawn, Tyson (basically used middle of season as his pre season last year, guy is a STUD - well ahead of Treloar In ceiling), Alex NB, Frost, Mcdonald inc Oscar, White will be a gun, King may be ready to play 2nd fiddle late this year, Stretch is so underrated here it's not funny & so forth.. Hogan,Petracca, Brayshaw are stars of future starting now, Viney may go down as our toughest and most beloved player of all time, mark my words - Tyson could be Hodge like with some luck.. Gawn is best young Ruxk in game. Let's calm down peeps! Plus - Bugg will get done, Rosa or Stanton are being considered for Cross like role, Bastinac was in frame maybe not now but one of Prestia/Gaff/Parker/Rockliff will be a demon 17' perhaps - so let's not throw the bath out with baby water just yet folks! Don't be shocked if Dixon comes into play, were sniffing about I know that much. GO DEES!!! Cheers

All the Melksham bashing is fair enough as your ALL entitled to your opinion, however I feel you may be eating your words.. And gladly so! Melksham is a player that not only fills a need (disposal, decision making, Kicks goals) but he was an extremely elite junior that is just about ready to blossom, a new environment could be an even bigger kick starter.. Why do you think people such as Ross, Goodwin, McCartney are so big on him? MacCallum and Goody both worke with him one on one and both say he just needs an opportunity - as the bombers midfield was locked in most weeks leaving Jake as a Flanker who jumped in for 2-3 min spells each quarter. Just trust a little guys - bombers were extremely keen to keep him, not supporters - I'm saying the inner sanctum. Even if he doesn't turn into a mega star, we can't have a team of all mega stars, more important is a team we that's filled by players who have a specific role and Jake at vry least, is just that! Dom will be our super star recruit and Viney is absolutely elite already. As for Bastinac, but slow but goes in hard and would be great depth! However I'm not sure we're into him!

I'll go again!

Many around Mitch and the club hold genuine hopes of a return. Mitch retired to ensure the media scrutiny on himself and the club would be dissolved for a considerable time period to enable Mitch the best possible hope of a full recovery, as if he did not retire the spotlight would have only grown weekly - a brave and brilliant move orchestrated by the club. All going well, There is absolutely no donut that should Mitch feel his body is right and his mind is in a better place - that Mitch Clark will be wearing number 11 in the red & blue in 2015 - and likelihood of this has only grown by the day with the positive beginning to Mitch's recovery.. I'm expecting to see Mitch return to spearhead the Attack next year, but the fragility of this horrible affliction means that no one, including Mitch - can be resoundingly certain! So let's just wish Mitch the best as many of you have, and hope that his position is strong enough come September to enable him to return! September being the true deadline - to enable the Dees to ensure Mitch returns to the active list in 2015. If you contact the club - I'm sure they will happily explain that if such a circumstance "somehow" came to fruition, the Club could re-instate Mitch on the list with no risk of him falling elsewhere what so ever! But don't expect them to even admit its a remote chance, as they absolutely would not compromise Mitch's recovery by adding unnecessary media scrutiny.

Id guess that there would be plenty looking at Weller! Patrick also will end up rookie listed imo. But I heard a few weeks ago - that depending on how his knee is recovering, Horsley will be a potential target for the Demons and Blues. Dont rate Wilkinson at all - but who knows!

Hi level humor there boys, loving your insightful contributions! You forgot to mention random tweets by searching"demons trade", my very favorite resource! Feel free not to read anytime I don't know how many times I need to clarify that all I do is type the things I hear in my workplace, using a min 2 source rule as the only filter. It seems while many appreciate the info, (of which many were never mentioned in any media before here & have afterwards mind you, not that I really concern myself with that but its accurate) & have the adequate IQ to both understand how to take it, whilst also being fully aware of just how many deals/swaps/players/picks etc get mooted about by AFL clubs, Managers, players etc at this time of year - thus knowing that at best, 1-2% of all discussed deals will ever get past mild discussion, let alone actually be submitted - thats just how it is! So that'll do from me, as I said when I returned this year - I wanted to give some info to those who would enjoy it & being a mad Demons man, I know how much I like hearing all the random football scuttlebutt from people in the business. So, Iam done reading snide remarks from members of this board (albeit few) & wasting my time responding - so Its time I bid farewell! cheers

The 3 way deal is done Announcement within 2-3 hours just a few details to iron out such as Dawes signing contract alteration etc Well done Dees, a nice deal indeed imho

Neeld loves his pace & rebound from defensive 50, may be added as the final piece instead of the late pick GWS has been asked to add to complete the deal. Will know by midday tomorrow we hope!

CONFIRMED

Pick 13 is gone & is now Pick 20. Dees expect another top 25 pick to come their way via other deals in coming days also! Draft wise, Dees confident of Toumpas @ 4 with Wines & Macrae rumored to be GWS pref choice at 3 & even Grundy has come into contenion at that pick if they lose Giles. If GC had #2 Toumpas would be gone, but now they dont, dees have a shot!

Most likely to draft Jimmy Toumpas with big man Grundy our 2nd choice.. close but Toumpas will likely be our man! Bennell, Cook & Morton habe been nibbled on, but no sale yet.. far from it I hear! Morton will find a home I suspect..

I am only guessing, however I beleive the intent would be Pederson as a utility to replace MArtin & extra cover for Rivers shoiuld be leave. Also, Dees may target 15 KPP players, but obviously they are not going to sign them all, should they get lucky enough to lure mutiple, I assume they would simply choose by their ranking/priority list.