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Cadman is meant to be physical yet there wasn’t a lot of footage of him taking contested marks. Look at the Hawks when they had Rough, Bruest and Gunston, none of them overly physical yet won 4 flags. Attacking the ball is a form of physicality. Out of interest, how many young KPF kicking bags of goals most week paid a lot of attention to the defensive side of their game.

Nick Riewoldt is listed as 193 cm, I always thought he was 196cm. Jefferson is 194cm.

The top two things for me that a KPD should have as part of their game is contested marking and goal kicking. After watching the two highlights packages of both Cadman and Jefferson several times IMO Jefferson has Cadman covered in both those areas. I’m then asking myself why is Cadman rated so far ahead of Jefferson phantom drafts. Cadman kicked 34 in 12 games this year which is a great achievement, Jefferson only played the six games (I’m guessing he was injured) for 14 goals. Cadman is more imposing at under 18’s at 88kg, 12kg’s heavier than Jefferson. Aaron Cadman National Championships, 2022 Victoria Country (National Talent Database) National Talent Database Player 4Games Played 2Best Player 10Total Goals VICTORIA COUNTRY U18 BOYS GP BP G TOTAL 4 2 10 NAB AFL National Championships 4 2 10 VS Victoria Metro U18 BoysRound 7, 22 Sep 2022 1 1 3 VS Western Australia U18 BoysRound 5, 17 Jul 2022 1 1 3 VS Allies BoysRound 3, 03 Jul 2022 1 - 2 VS South Australia U18 BoysRound 2, 26 Jun 2022 1 - 2 Mathew Jefferson : National Championships, 2022 Victoria Metro (National Talent Database) National Talent Database Player 4Games Played 3Best Player 14Total Goals VICTORIA METRO U18 BOYS GP BP G TOTAL 4 3 14 NAB AFL National Championships 4 3 14 VS Victoria Country U18 BoysRound 7, 22 Sep 2022 1 1 2 VS South Australia U18 BoysRound 4, 17 Jul 2022 1 - 3 VS Western Australia U18 BoysRound 3, 02 Jul 2022 1 1 7 VS Allies BoysRound 2, 25 Jun 2022 1 1 2 Aaron Cadman : NAB League, 2022 Greater Western Victoria Rebels (NAB League) NAB League 12Games Played 8Best Player 34Total Goals GREATER WESTERN VICTORIA REBELS BOYS GP BP G TOTAL 12 8 34 NAB League Boys 12 8 34 VS Northern Knights BoysFinals Round 1, 27 Aug 2022 1 1 2 VS Geelong Falcons BoysRound 16, 21 Aug 2022 1 1 4 VS Gippsland Power BoysRound 15, 07 Aug 2022 1 1 3 VS Eastern Ranges BoysRound 14, 30 Jul 2022 1 - 2 VS Western Jets BoysRound 13, 23 Jul 2022 1 1 5 VS Oakleigh Chargers BoysRound 10, 18 Jun 2022 1 1 4 VS Dandenong Stingrays BoysRound 9, 04 Jun 2022 1 - 1 VS Western Jets BoysRound 8, 28 May 2022 1 1 5 VS Murray Bushrangers BoysRound 5, 01 May 2022 1 1 1 VS Sydney Swans (NAB League) BoysRound 4, 24 Apr 2022 1 - 3 VS Geelong Falcons BoysRound 3, 14 Apr 2022 1 - 0 VS Bendigo Pioneers BoysRound 1, 02 Apr 2022 1 1 4 Mathew Jefferson : NAB League, 2022 Oakleigh Chargers (NAB League) NAB League Player 6Games Played 4Best Player 14Total Goals OAKLEIGH CHARGERS BOYS GP BP G TOTAL 6 4 14 NAB League Boys 6 4 14 VS Bendigo Pioneers BoysFinals Round 1, 28 Aug 2022 1 - 3 VS Sandringham Dragons BoysRound 16, 20 Aug 2022 1 1 4 VS Calder Cannons BoysRound 4, 23 Apr 2022 1 1 3 VS Eastern Ranges BoysRound 3, 16 Apr 2022 1 1 0 VS Northern Knights BoysRound 2, 10 Apr 2022 1 1 3 VS Sandringham Dragons BoysRound 1, 03 Apr 2022 1 - 1 I’m thinking the National Championship is the biggest stage these kids have played on so their respective highlights for these games should be regarded higher than their TAC games. I would not be disappointed if we selected Jefferson with our first pick.

That’s massive, awesome effort. Next year will be my 19th consecutive. What gets me is when the club has promotions for members to renew their membership “now” to enter a certain draw or for new members to be entered into something else, yet those on auto renew aren’t included. I don’t expect to ever win but it’s the principal.

Just checked, Cripps kicked 3.1 and had 32 possessions that game.

Been stuck in an airport so just rewatched his highlights against WA and VIC Metro. He misses a lot of set shots, takes plenty of marks out in space but not so much contested. Attacks the ball / contest which is good but at times makes the wrong decision. Will watch his career with interest.

What have I missed, in that highlights package he looks good. I read earlier in the thread he avoids the contest but he seems to take plenty of contested marks, also kicking them from various angles.

Hannebery at the start of 2019. Dan Butler was the other one I was thinking off.

Ratten was coach when Saints traded for Hannebery, Zak Jones, Hill, Ryder and Dougal Howard? He made his play and it didn’t work out, footy is cutthroat and unforgiving, the current list is in terrible shape.

I agree with your point but Nik Nat was injured when Eagles won in 2018.

People that want to pot this thread, how would Tassie go retaining players?

This year alone LJ (pick 3) gone home after 3 years. JHF (pick 1) gone home after 1 year. Izak Rankine (pick 3) gone home after 4 years. Taranto (pick 2) gone home after 6 seasons. Not as good as an example as the last 3.

And this is why I honestly thought before trade week started we were a chance of pick 2. The Eagles clearly don’t rate LJ as others do.

So GWS lose another quality player and possibly Hopper as well. Between that and what’s going on at North I’m not sure how anyone can think 19 teams is sustainable in this competition.

I remember looking at highlight packages of Hayden Young 3 years ago, all be it a different position but his disposal by foot was elite.

I get the whole if you have 30 + possessions a few with wayward kicks / turnovers but the two highlight packages in this thread are less than impressive for someone touted as a top 3-5 pick. Have you been following his junior career closely or are you able to post some more highlights that showcase the class people speak off?

I got a 90 seconds in and was thinking exactly the same thing. Not sure how he’s ranked so highly, I’ll keep watching….

What’s he like in pack mark / contested marking situations? Of the three highlights packages most of his marks are on the lead and he’s out in space. When going for a contested mark he only really took the one and that was juggled. Long range kicking for goal reasonably accurate with the odd shank. Keeps his feet in the contest.

I think they personally should of told Buddy to retire or change clubs. They can’t play all of Franklin, Reid, McDonald and Amarty.

If North are stupid enough to do that trade they should just fold

I was hoping we’d go after him.

Just had a look at one draft, the top twelve consists of one from SA, two from WA and the rest from Victoria. 8. Jedd Busslinger (Western Australia - East Perth) The leading key defender in this year's draft class, Busslinger is an elite intercept mark with his early read of the ball in flight who attack on the ball aerially plucks the ball out of the air. With ball in hand Busslinger is a composed and reliable ball user while defensively he is competitive and able to curb the influence of his direct opponent. The 197cm key defender averaged 23.8 disposals and eight marks in the WAFL Colts this year and 22 disposals and seven marks in his two Under-18 Championships games before deciding to undergo season ending shoulder surgery. August Ranking: 7 12. Elijah Hewett (Western Australia - Swan Districts) Hewett is a strong contested ball-winning mid whose power when exiting stoppages is notable. With good speed, agility and evasion, Hewett is at his most damaging at speed either winning loose balls one-touch on the move at speed, or receiving on the move. Hewett displays damaging skills by foot whether he is locating and hitting inside 50 targets or finishing around goal himself, particularly when given time and space with ball in hand. He has also shown that he can be an aerial threat, taking some high-flying marks this season. A big game player who routinely stars on the big stage, Hewett was arguably the Swan Districts most influential in their WAFL Colts premiership triumph against Claremont in 2021, and best afield the following week for Western Australia against South Australia. His best performance this year came during the Under-18 Championships for Western Australia against Championships favourite Victoria Metro, with game highs of 29 disposals, 11 inside 50s, five score assists, a team high five clearances and an equal team high of two goals. Spending all but one game this season in the WAFL against League opposition, Hewett has grown in confidence over the course of the season and has kicked one goal in each of his past four matches. August Ranking: 10 Interesting times ahead, how much importance is placed on go home factor. Is pick 2 for Jackson a better option than the two players listed above or a higher ranked Victorian kid who can do to them what Jackson has done to us minus the flag.

Not sure if already mentioned, in terms of phantom drafts where is the no.1 ranked player from WA and what position does he play. I’m looking at this from the Eagles POV, if the top ten ranked juniors are all from Victoria surely that has to be factored in when deciding if pick 2 should be part of a deal for Jackson.

One could always argue “we have to wait and see how we use these picks” but 2 first round picks in the teens just seems like we’re losing out. A top 5 pick should be a must, but I can’t see it happening.