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Read what P Man wrote as well, we were two rotations down and it was 30 deg, it was pre season, Neeld didn't give a flying about the result that's why he sat Garland down I agree with another poster on here, some of the posts on here border on the pathetic, all about themselves, support the team or stay home......rather that than go to the game, be miserable and then come on here and whinge I take [censored] from no one, desk in work is covered in Red and Blue.....some posters must be pretty poor at standing up for themselves.....it doesn't matter to me MFC is my team and always will be

P_Man, it's not me getting upset, it seems to be you....don't answer it if it is stupid....who gave you the title I didn't

Nutbean, totally agree with your writing, put my opinion above, Grimes I think watching the games, and not to let BH think I am analysing, gets too far ahead of himself sometimes and rushes the kicks, as he gains more and more experience I think this will change, most other posters tend to forget he had a miserable time with injury for the first couple of years, when he was drafted he was a midfielder, but found himself in defence once fit, a defence that was under constant bombardment, he has made mistakes but as you said he is certainly not on his own......I am looking for him to improve his kicking this year

I just like having a bit of fun with the 'keyboard heroes', You mean his point was sticking out? Terrible sin kicking out on the full, I bet there is only a handful of AFL players who have ever done that

That is the point I was trying to make Nutbean, forgot you need to spell it out.......Grimes is still, because of injury, early in his career, as he gets more used to the pressure the kicking will improve....I certainly don't regard him as an elite kick at the moment, but then again he doesn't butcher every kick that others claim

It is quite a simple question, when I played I will happily admit that under pressure my kicks got a bit scrappy..even put a few out on the full...assume the pressure at AFL level is 100 times more.........either your kicking efficiency if and when you played was 100% or it wasn't......just so I know where the mark is you are taking Jack Grimes' kicking from......... Jnrmac you are entitled to your opinion....but thought your post was pretty much the same

Just a point on Sylvia...what we wanted to see was an uninterrupted pre season and to get through the NAB Cup unscathed....now if he gets picked for Round 1....who knows? As for the 22 on opening day...no idea...just at the minute there are too many variables

I didn't say you were, but the question still stands

I assume when you play, you never miss a target, is that correct?

Can I ask why he is a liability, having played the grand total of 2 games? He was the leading goalkicker at Casey last season Are you another one of those posters that just picks a player and away you go venting your spleen He is a fwd/ruckman by the way, not just ruck, obviously you can't have watched him too many times to not know that Boosdog must be right

Can everyone take a deep breath and save all the wailing till the game is over and we have ALL the info post just whining clog up the topic....let Bailin post

Bailin, why all the scoring at one end?

So the wind up there is called GAblett

Read all the reports, most scoring at one end....so there must be a wind....sigh

Of course they do, there are only about 9 or 10 consistently negative posters on this board, 26000 members, most are optimistic that is why they have signed on again......most people are glass half full What is step up....you mean they haven't reached the lofty standards that RR wants them to....that is what is laughable...

Two reasons - 99% of Melbourne supporters know that the team will lift the bar this year, they have to The post was the usual same tired old cliches......been posted a number of times before, nothing new It just brought to the surface the usual collection of naysayers

A lot of the film is allegorical, similar to most of the posts on this board

I like to answer most of the points raised but as the psychiatrist said in that wonderful episode of Fawlty Towers . "there is enough for a whole conference there"........it's always the same group of posters who are down on everything MFC...as I have said before why do you bother, you seem to either hate everything about MFC or think everything is crap...... I am hoping that we will progress this season as a team, I trust from what I have seen or heard that Mark Neeld will accept no passengers in his side, and if you don't have a crack then you won't be in the team I said to BH yesterday this is just footy, you go along and watch it, nobody dies if we lose, sometime in the near future I hope I will be able to go along and watch MFC play in finals I have never seen the point of criticising constructive or otherwise, bagging of players, they don't read the board, and being professional sportsmen they know exactly what their failings are and they also know that if they don't improve they won't be at the Club If you look at some of the other clubs supporters boards, you will see them doing the same to players who we would supposedly drool over, Bryce Gibbs anyone "I'm thinking you went to one of those schools which had an 'it's okay to lose' ethos. You know the ones, where excellence is discouraged in favour of 'everyone getting a fair go'. That about right?" er no, I went to a school in Liverpool, England where you either stood up or fell down, I just find it interesting to suggest that maybe some people, if you want to do a bit of amateur psychoanalysis, live vicariously through the footy players and feel that at the moment they are only adding to the overwhelming feeling of inadequacy that they have Satryicon is from the Fellini flim, read the critique on the Rotten Tomatoes website and you will see why I chose it I'll happily discuss footy, I thought last week the whole team didn't have a crack for the last 10 minutes of the 2nd qtr and it is something that has to be eradicated

Lunchtime....looking for a laugh and here it is......Stuie I am with you.......just a couple more of the hairshirters to pop in their posts and the topic will be complete... I often wonder if the players sit in AAMi park and think Christ I wish some of the supporters would lilft their game and stop bagging us By the way the 'criticism' is not constructive,it is the same old trotted out again...... I find it strange that the Footy Dept thinks four of them are so terrible they have them in the Leadership Group.... First mention of Nik Nat by RR for the season...didn't take long....you may have to wait till at least round 5 to see him in action this year Rangey...that's if the groin injury hasn't cruelled his jumping

Binman, not so much as float my boat, as a more senior citiizen, wasn't really into the social media thingy until I discovered this site and twitter a couple of years ago. Being a Melbourne supporter it gives me an outlet, not like some to make me feel important or to vent some spleen, but to discuss in a sensible manner the Footy Club. As you can see from my posts not really into the 'bagging' of players, we all watch the games and we have all seen the performances of the last couple of years, bit pointless in my view to either keep rehashing or assuming we are going to see more of the same before a real ball has been kicked in anger This topic is about a player who as another poster says, non MFC supporters rate and the MFC Footy Dept must as well as they have made him co-captain, the sometimes rather spiteful way some posters opinions are expressed can annoy me, they are entitled to that but also to have my 'opinion' given as well If a poster like BH, who seems to think the rest of us are beneath him, makes a post asserting what he thinks to be a totally correct assessment of Jack Grimes, then other posters are allowed to disagree I actually have to listen to similar during the games, from so called supporters who in between going to bar to refuel with the overpriced and watered down alcohol at the G, spend 2 hrs shouting abuse at "their" team......I sometimes wonder if it is to cover their own percieved inadequacies

What and miss out on your posts, no not really, bit rich coming from you OD, like I get told, don't read it........just trying to defend one of the captains of MFC....shield at the ready

Binman......I might be one of the usual suspects...but I enjoy the sport of it...

Gee BH insulting you, you must be very thin skinned although you don't mind handing out do you...'brain dead' 'fool' just a couple of examples., you are allowed your opinion ,the same as we are allowed to question it, my 'opnion' was you were wrong in your 'opinion' of Jack Grimes....having seen some of the diatribes you have launched against other players, I assumed this was just another one as I said in another post it must terrible for you being so alone atop your lofty pedestal whilst us mere mortals can only worship at your feet when you decide to impart some wisdom Ruthless business...this is footy, nobody dies....eeekkk heaven forbid .I am not compromising anything, especially the Club... I don't work/play/coach etc at the club so I cannot influence anything, apart from maybe those so called journalists at the Age who read this board looking for non stories...(Hi! Caroline) I support all the players whilst they are on the list, it is pretty pointless criticising them on this board, coz they don't read it so they are oblivious to the criticism, so it will have none of the influence you hope it will

No BH I read every word you write, gives me the full picture I can then pick holes in......a considered opinion that would nearly be a first for you BH, you need to go back and reread your posts, most are diatribes against particular players/administrators/other posters, it gets tiresome to some of us, but this board is a democracy so you can do it I am not the only one to point this out to you, I try and put forward my viewpoint, as it is not an opinion, see below to explain why I watch footy to watch it, I don't sit there for hours analysing like you obviously do, it is meant for enjoyment........if they have a crack that will do me Gee and you have it in for the left as well.....were you picked on at school or something? You certainly don't like people disagreeing with you. Grimes is just a Melbourne player for me, if he comes out each game and gives it the best he can, that's fine by me, if his best is eventually good enough to make him in others eyes an 'A' grade midfielder then that is cool as well That is my 'opinion' of the team as well, I am only 'disappointed' when in my 'opinion' we didn't have a crack, ie last 10 minutes of the second qtr against St KIlda last weekend, same as Mark Neeld....hopefully we won't see that too often this coming season

Wow, BH judging a guy on a practice game in 35 deg heat and masses of interchanges, you get better and better don't you, been reading all the negative posts on the board today.....gee we have a lot of posters really looking forward to the season and an MFC failure so they will feel vindicated for their pessimism, that's really good support