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Buckenara rates Collins at pick 3. He has 6 talls in his top 10 because they are so hard to get. Rates his footy smarts. I would not be surprised to see GC pick him at 6. They could do with another KPB. If we took Weideman at 3 I would also not be surprised to see the Dons take Curnow (KPF/3rd tall/mId) and Collins as a KPB. They have lost Fletcher and Carlisle and they know they will be down again next year in a good mids draft. If Weideman and Collins are picked up in the top 6 then one of Parish, Curnow or Francis will likely slip to 7.

Callum Twomey on AFL radio during the trade period said that he genuinely believes that if not for his injury Weideman would be ranked No 2 in this draft. He is a big wrap for him. Most BF phantom drafts have him a fair bit lower. Watch for Callum's final Phantom update on the AFL website close to draft day. He usually gets close to the mark. I guess he gets a bit of information etc from clubs. So I am not surprised by Redlegs comments regarding his information. Backs up Callum's 'big' statement. on trade radio. If Weideman is that good then we would have to take him at pick 3, play him at FF and let Hogan slaughter the opposition as a higher CHF.

I thought Parish but when we look at the list we one gun KFP, Dawes who is frequently injured and inconsistent and 28? next year, Pederson was was just given a one year deal - we all know what the next deal is!! No young KPF's coming through. I'm thinking maybe Curnow who can play 3rd tall forward and run through the midfield now and then.

We have loaded up big on mids and have Trengove returning. Melksham can play the line breaking outside role as well as inside as can Salem. Stretch is the quick outside player. I now think we will go best available at 3 which will be either Francis or Curnow. Francis is very competitive and will be a gun 3rd tall back who can swing forward and mid. Aaron Francis (10/8/1997 191cm, 81kg. West Adelaide) Tall defender/forward/midfielder AFL biography: Tall forward/defender with good athleticism and game sense. Knows when to come off his opponent and impact the contest. Makes smart decisions with his disposal and consistently breaks down opposition attacks by winning the ball back in the air. Also a dangerous forward, he kicked four goals against Western Australian in an outstanding performance. Averaged 15.7 possessions and 5.7 marks across six games at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships winning All-Australian U18 honours. Member of the NAB AFL Academy. "He's an interesting player. His game against Vic Metro at AAMI Stadium this year was clearly the best game of football at this level I've seen. He caught every ball that went inside defensive 50 and just dominated the game. I think he'll end up at playing at either end of the ground, as a third defender or someone who could go forward and kick some goals. He'll go into the midfield at some points, but he needs to get his running capacity up a bit more. He has the speed and the agility and the power, but his endurance will need some time and some work. He's a very quiet kid, he doesn't say a lot, but he's a different person when he's out on the ground. I had our runner come back to me a few times and tell me Aaron was running the show out there." Brenton Phillips, SA talent manager. ​ Charlie Curnow (3/2/1991 191cm, 95kg. Geelong Falcons) Tall forward/midfielder AFL biography: Powerful tall forward/midfielder who is extremely athletic, strong overhead and dangerous near goals. Showed potential for the NAB AFL Academy against VFL opposition earlier this year before a dislocated knee kept him out of the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Returned to TAC Cup football with Geelong Falcons in the last four matches, kicking 13 goals and showcasing his potential as a marking forward. Brother of Carlton's Ed. "When the AFL clubs came around at the start of the year - without knowing what was coming ahead - I said Charlie could potentially be the No. 1 pick. He won't be, because he missed the national championships and there are some fantastic kids around - but I haven't changed my mind that much. He's the youngest of five kids and a bit of a free spirit. He goes to uni and loves his surfing, but he has massive upside. He's a fantastic athlete - he has some unbelievable times under his belt on the athletics track and he's a good high jumper, but he's still learning how to use it on the footy field. We've had him play full-back, centre half-back, centre half-forward and full-forward for us, but at the start of the year when he was really fit we had him playing as a ruck rover. He's carrying a bit of puppy fat and freaks the clubs out a bit, but keep saying hang on, he's an 18-year-old kid. Once he gets to a club he'll knuckle down and work hard. He's got massive upside." Michael Turner, Geelong Falcons talent manager

As players drop off in Freo they will likely make a big offer. We need to sign him long term over the summer. Also we need a tall back up such as Curnow or Weideman put extra pressure on oppo backlines and cover for injury etc.

A from me. Its now up to the List management/recruitment team to make the right selctions with 3 and 7. No doubt the player they target will be there at 3. Lets hope 7 works out. They would have one or two players in mind they think will slip/fall to 7..

Its going to be a tough call for the MFC recruiters!!!!!!

Is Curnow a bigger version of Petracca. Big bodies, big tanks, strong marks. Petracca at TAC level performed way better than Curnow as a forward (and that was Petracca's 1st TAC year) and also proved himself as a gun TAC mid in his 2nd year - Curnow unproved as a mid. The difference is Petracca is described as a special player whereas the talk is that Curnow COULD be a special player - big difference in risk level for a high pick - still very tempting.

Is Petarcca a smaller version of Curnow. Both big bodies, big tanks, both good on the lead a strong marks up forward. At TAC level Petracca actually performed better - way better as a forward in his first year than Curnow in either of his years. In his second year Petracca smashed it as a mid. Curnow is unproved as a mid. I think there is little or no doubt that Petracca will be special whereas the experts say Curnow COULD be a special player.

With the sub out and reduced rotations Curnow with a mid type tank looks tempting as a run them into the ground forward who is a strong mark. Emma says he is a natural footballer which i think is way better than the athlete first then footballer type. Doubt whether he will last to pick 7. Parish is a gun outside player described as a game changer and we lack gun outsiders. Usually outsiders do not go this early in the draft - but we need his type. Again probably will not slip to 7. Weideman would be a great foil for Hogan and Callum Twoomey said on trade radio that he believed if it was not for injury the Weed would rate at pick 2. Milera as an outside player will probably be available at 7. He has been playing well in SANFL with one 5 goal game. Can't wait for it to all unfold. Callum will produce another AFL Website draft rating closer to the real thing. He usually gets it fairly accurately.

Word on trade radio we have upgraded our pick 20 to pick 7. Not sure whether Bugg involved.

We have loaded up on mids the last few drafts (including rookies) and this trading period. Next years draft is tipped as a 'mids' draft in which we have already given up our first rounder. This draft is a good draft early for quality talls. We have delisted 2 talls - Jamar and Fitzy. Appears to me we will load up on talls with 3 and 10. I think at 3 either Curnow or Weideman. Viney spent time at the Hawks with Buckenara who put the Hawks list together. Buckenara's view is take the talls when you can as they are so hard to get and expensive to trade for.

Given we have loaded up on mids the last few drafts and this trading period looks like we may go for talls with 3 and 10. Giving up our 2016 pick which is touted as a mids draft further indicates this. With Jamar and Fitzy delisted we need a couple more talls. Maybe a crash and bash Weideman? Callum Twoomey on AFL radio today suggests Weideman or Parish who is a game changer. I think we need a back up for Hogan - so I tip a KPF.

His Under 18 form was really good and he slippred in his draft year. I suspect that he will play a similar type role to Dean Kent who has been very injury prone. We really missed Dean Kent's pace, run, defensive pressure etc most of last season. Ben Kennedy should be a good performer and will be good insurance for Dean should he have further issues with his hamstrings or other injuries. Lets hope they can both be in top form and play in the same team!!!!

For a change we need some luck with injuries. If Kent can stay fit i think he will have a breakout season for us and provide some good run and carry speed plus defensive work. I think we are ok for defensive KP's but we should recruit a KPF in the draft. I see Callum Twoomey AFL website has both Weideman and Curnow around our pick 6.

Hmmmm, the Lions got pick 17 for Redden!!!!! I think Howe has more value, he certainly is way more versatile. Interesting to see what we get. We need to hope he nominates the GC - they will be knee deep in picks before this trade period finishes!!!!!

I would take him. Bigs are hard to get. If you trade for one you up big. So take one when you can. Mids are easier to get through the draft, trade and FA!!!! Hopefully Trengove recovers and gets back to best++. Petracca to come in, Kent back. Maybe Melksham and Kennedy. We have plenty of mids developing.

Conversion is a big issue for us as a team. See the Hawks kicking for goal today!!! Bail had a massive issue with conversion - missed to many gettable shots for goal. Can't afford that with limited touches. If Kennedy is better at conversion, ball use and accumulation then pick him up and give him a go.

Gary Buckenara on the AFL draft as talked has 6 'bigs' in his top 10. His reasoning is that they are hard to come by and this year they are good. He said Weideman has a bit of Pavlich about him but that clubs would want to make sure his injury is ok. Said Curnow could surprise. Rated Collins at 3 - said clubs would work on his agility. I would like us to pick up either Weideman or Curnow.

Well done Crossy!!! Looks like he will be kept on at the club in a development capacity next year.

I think he showed enough to suggest he will LIKELY BE A GOOD PLAYER. The coaches would have been happy and he should get another game next week. For list management purposes it was important to see what he and others such as Harmes, ANB can offer. It has a bearing on the types we may look to recruit during the happy season.

Salem's been ok this quarter

It takes some players 4 or 5 years for the penny to drop. The Toump must be one of them. Coaches obviously think he will turn out a good player - lets hope they are right!!

We certainly need some luck with injury. Lets hope Petracca, Frost and Trengove play really good footy next year. Kent has the breakout year we have been waiting for and we get some overall improvement from the 22. Salem, Brayshaw, Viney, Hogan have loads of room for improvement.

Put N Jones, Bail, ANB, Mitchie, Harmes and Brayshaw (he looks knackered) in the Hawks team and I bet they will drop off a heap - reality!!!!List wise we are a mile behind the bulldogs at the moment. Over the last few years they have scored big time with the draft and father/son. Our guys are young and hopefully will develop ok. The work Macca did at the bulldogs is underrated and hopefully he can help develop the kids to play at a high level. Probably should make a play for FA Stanton to shore up the midfield and give the young mids a bit more time to develop - will also allow us to use our 1st rounder in the draft. Getting hold of an experienced mid was really highlighted yesterday.