Bluey's Dad

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lol last time we went down this road Iv'a, it got pretty heated. Although I agree with what you've stated, I don't trust that there's not some little wink-wink nudge-nudge deals happening to inflate those civil settlement payouts in exchange for the players taking a lower in-cap payment. The AFL has said they will monitor the situation to make sure this doesn't happen, although as you say, it's a different jurisdiction so I don't know how they check it all without being able to see half the equation. Also, I wouldn't trust the AFL to monitor a primary school hallway.

According to this, only 18 have settled: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-supplements-saga-bombers-settle-compensation-with-18-players-20161122-gsupyp.html So they've got 16 left to go. One could infer that these remaining 16 may cost more to settle, since they haven't reached payments already and may be more litigious than the previous 18. I assume Jobe is one of the remaining 16, and his payout would probably be higher than anyone else's because of giving up the Brownlow.

Indeed. It's quite alright to BE stupid and corrupt, but to appear so is the cardinal sin AFL house.

Bah. The fact that this is on the AFL website is telling. They're positioning for a break. The biggest argument 'for' ASADA in that article is that it gets the AFL funding from the government. The AFL isn't some super special snowflake sporting organisation. It doesn't need different rules. What a [censored] joke article.

Titus O'Reily is my spirit animal: http://titusoreily.com/afl-releases-draft-good-bloke-policy/

What do the betting agencies do in situations like this? They're part and parcel of the AFL experience now, according to the ever increasing levels of advertising.

lol, so basically: - Award is for best and fairest - Some people think the drugs means I wasn't fair - I TOTALLY AM FAIR THOUGH, LOOK HOW FAIR I AM I'M HANDING BACK THE MEDAL It's like his statement is worded so that people will think the action of handing the medal back in of itself qualifies him to earn it. Still, glad he did it though, as he should have done. We can finally move on.

I really wish I could find the compilation for you. The search continues.

A while back someone did do a photo compilation showing the differences between one season and the other. I can't remember where I saw it, but if I can track it down I'll post it. I also recall commentators at the time making remarks about the size of his thighs.

They called their draft forums "Essendon is not appealing draft board". I lol'd.

As much as I'd love to get Hibberd for second round next year, he probably is worth 29 this year. If we get him for 29, I think it's a fair deal.

Well, there's the AFL's out. Jobe's suspension was imposed by WADA, not the AFL Tribunal. Jobe therefore technically was never suspended by the AFL Tribunal and thus technically can keep his medal. Sigh.

Indeed. My vomit bag is at the ready.

He'll probably be given some sort of bonus. Will likely take it in stubbies.

Absolutely brilliant! I imagine the last few lines would apply to a variety of AFL topics. Hilarious.

Episode 7 is the best one so far, and I think Episode 3 with his prison flashbacks. The best episodes seem to be the ones set in the past. Jessica Jones is far superior, I'd watch that first.

I haven't seen Twin Peaks, but my number #1 TV show of all time is Babylon 5. JMS (the author/director/producer) planned the entire 5 season run before he began shooting the pilot, from memory I think he wrote or co-wrote every episode except 3 or 4 of them. Quite an achievement for 5 seasons of 20 or so episodes, plus 5 telemovies. The way the plot threads meet up with each other years later is astounding. Season 1 has a time travel episode, which shoots scenes from season 3. Then in season 3, you see the same episode from that point of view. There are plot threads that don't pay off until season 5. At the end of season 4, he was told the show would not be renewed, so he shot the last episode. He was then thrown a lifeline by another network, and continued onto season 5, HAVING ALREADY SHOT THE FINAL EPISODE!! If you watch the show in chronological order, you actually have to stop before the end of season 4, watch season 5, then watch the final episode of season 4 because that's actually the 'last episode'. It's only let down by 2 things - special effects (which were revolutionary at the time, but are now dated), and a few miscast actors. I was a Star Trek kid, so had actually stayed away from Babylon 5 in my teenage years. I watched it in my 20's, and I'm glad I did, the subtleties would been lost on on my younger self. There's no way I would have been able to follow the politics of the various races and governments at the age of 10 or 11. DS9's politics, although interesting, weren't nearly as deep as B5. B5 also has 2 astounding actors in Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas, the latter of which is the only actor who's been talented enough to make me cry while acting through layers and layers of alien latex make-up. Andreas's character, G'Kar, goes through a character arc so extreme, and done so brilliantly, I don't think we'll ever see it done again on TV. It took an author planning ahead 5 years and one of the most talented actors I've ever seen to pull it off. Some of his speeches gave me shivers. @A F I highly recommend Jessica Jones if you get the chance. Krysten Ritter is AMAZING, as is David Tennant. Luke Cage is good, but not on the same level. Someone linked me a story the other day that internet idiots are complaining the Luke Cage (the show, not the character) is too black. It's about a black superhero who lives in Harlem, I'm not sure what people were expecting, and his comic book is rooted in the blacksploitation frenzy of the 70's.

woah woah woah. Are you telling me Phillip K Dick's novel has been made into a TV series? Is it at all loyal or has it just been turned into a crappy 'what if the Nazis won' thing? Also OZ is brilliant. Despite some pretty outlandish storylines, it keeps pretty grounded and the characters are just so well written and acted. I can't say enough good things about it. I think I might pop it back on my re-watch list, after I finally get around to Luke Cage and Stranger Things (both Netflix shows). While I'm on Netflix, I highly recommend Jessica Jones. Some people will be turned off by it being a Marvel property, but it works as a single season run in its own right. I probably am little biased though as David Tennant plays the villain. I watched it right after Dr Who, so it added a lot to the unsettling mood after watching him as the Doctor, then as a sexual abuser. Just on Amazon, if it comes to Australia, do you know how much of the catalogue we'll get access to?

Wow. 'Asked to go with the story', a step further than my own conspiracy theory. Chris Kaias was a great source of clarity during the ongoing media misinformation saga (if that poster is indeed him). Tweet from Andy Maher. Still nothing solid (what bf post is), but very disturbing. Fits the narrative of the players knowing what was going on. Good link, thanks Ted

Or it was a flimsy excuse to get himself out of the regime without pissing everyone off. Or he said no and made up the needles thing when it all came out, to cover for his mates. Like I said before, the players' lack of disclosure on their ASADA testing forms indicates that they were complicit. They knew, they hid it. Otherwise it's a bloody big coincidence that 34 players 'forgot' they were taking 'thymo' when filling out their forms. From there, I infer that Zaharakis knew, didn't get involved, and made some [censored] up about needles so he didn't have to take a moral high ground stance or rat out his friends. Sounds pretty clever to me. But really, who knows, right? The truth is buried at the bottom of a shredder.

Well, this thread certainly has been... educational.

Not true. He had a press conference and did some interviews. Clearly a media [censored].

Agreed. It's further compounded by the text messages between some of them asking if they 'go their thymo' injection yet. Text your teammate to ask if they got their shot, but not write down the shot on the disclosure form? I reckon the players have gotten off very lightly, the media could have gone very hard but didn't.