Bluey's Dad

The big question mark from me is his hair. He clearly uses a lot of conditioner. I'm very worried he'll end up taking a hair modelling contract and leaving us in the lurch.

Sounds very similar to comments made by Viney in his draft year.

I thought Rex Hunt retired.

They hardly have the same level of evidence against them and none of them are currently being taken to CAS by WADA. Pretty big difference I would have thought. Hardly apples and apples, Gonzo. But yes, if any of our players were to receive infraction notices or have similar action taken against them, I would call them drug cheats too.

Firstly, I doubt the lack of support of a random forum user who mostly posts in gifs is going to keep Jake awake at night. Secondly, I will support him if CAS clears him. If CAS does not clear him, he will gain my support after his punishment (whatever that is) is completed. Reasonable?

Honestly I think Essendon as a club needs a huge penalty as well. I never said anything to the contrary, I'm not sure why you bring that up. Guilty until innocent? Yeah, I've judged based on what I've read and heavily suspect they are guilty. It's perfectly fine for a member of society to do that. My opinion will not alter CAS's verdict. I'm not a member of the judiciary and am not bound by their code of ethics. People make judgements all the time based on the evidence they have at hand. If CAS clears them, I'll change my stance. Until then I'm pretty sure they cheated and am unhappy one of them is now at our club. I don't think my stance of labelling 34 athletes who took drugs to give them a competitive edge, with or without their knowledge, as drug cheats is unreasonable. I don't follow cycling, in fact I don't follow any other sports, so I don't see why my stance is outrageous. I care about AFL and to me Essendon's actions (and the players' inactions) are detrimental to it. I am highly dubious regarding Zaharakis's fear of needles. Honestly I think it's a smokescreen. I think he saw what was happening and chose not to be involved, but didn't want to out his team mates and so came up with this needles thing as a way of excluding himself without having to report them or get them in trouble. I am also happy for there to be one final consequence as a result of the CAS hearing. I'm not sure what I said that made you infer that I believed they should carry any additional burden? You are reading a lot into a post were I simply said "no, he is a drug cheat" in response to "get around him". I think you're lumping me in with the 'baying for blood' group when all I did was apply a 'drug cheat' label to players whom I think it aptly applies to. I will offer Melksham no support until I am sure that he is not in fact a drug cheat.

Sorry RPFC, I can't agree. Kavanagh and Zaharakis managed to see this for what it is and get out. He's an elite athlete and responsible for what goes into his body. I don't buy the 'players were duped' argument. There were too many shady goings on for a reasonable person to not have sincere doubts. Hiding behind a veil of feigned ignorance doesn't change the fact that he was involved in the regime. To let him get away with this sort of behaviour provides others with a template for future cheating. So no, I won't give it a rest. I'm extremely unhappy that he is on our list. The only way I'll be happy that he's wearing red and blue is if CAS clears him and provides a damn good reason for it. From the current information at hand, I judge him to be a drug cheat. If new information comes to light clearing him, I will change my stance.

No. He is a drug cheat.

I for one am pretty unhappy. He took drugs. If Kavanagh and Zaharakis were smart enough not to get involved, there is no excuse for the other 34.

I actually don't mind this. I think it's a really efficient use of a pick. Plus you get to play the numbers games. Odds are that at least one of these two will benefit us more than the single draft pick.

Still not buying it. Now if you read it on Facebook, THAT'S a different story.

Biff is not a reliable source of information. Ranks just above a HH rumour.

Why not? Does BBO only pay you in "trade"?

Indeed. I'd rather a leader like Viney who leads on the field but stumbles occasionally in interviews, than one like Dawes who seems the opposite.

You know I looked at this and thought, of all the comics I've read, surely there's one where Batman got some sort of flying power. I can think of at least two, but they're non-canonical. Not that canon means much to DC these days. So.... That Jack Viney. That's some tackler there.

Bruce Wayne is Jack Viney's alter ego.

That's what he WANTS you to think.

That was an awesome tackle! Also the look on Viney's face when he was singing the song was gold, that kid loves the club so damn much.

I think demonology normally post links to youtube uploads on their videos page.

They'd make us keep paying his contract. Shop him around to Bomberblitz instead?

Tom Boyd did it after one year.

lol, very nice. There's nothing wrong with anticipating one thing and hoping for the other. In fact as Melbourne supporters, I'd guess that we're all pretty familiar with this particular mindset.

Bumping this thread in the hopes that there will be additions to it after the Lions game.

Ordinarily I would agree with you, but the current recruiting team's ability to execute favourable trading manoeuvres recently gives me hope.

Yeah with like 3 hours to go before deadline. I still have no idea what that was all about. They clearly knew we didn't have time to evaluate the offer. Maybe the wanted to inflate Howe's ego? Shake him loose for a trade the next season? I dunno.