TGR

My thoughts exactly. If Paul Roos was here, he would be saying " the stuff that the players do at the clubs across-the-board varies slightly. The big discrepancy is what the players do in their huge time away from the club". From my end, nothing really changes until the decision-maker(s) (regarding players getting sent back out after injury onset) changes. Brukner for example is great at what he does, but that becomes insignificant if you have: (a) a desperate coaching box ordering injured players back on the park. (b) a head-strong player (Viney) wagging the dog and insisting that he comes back early from foot surgery; or that he gets back on with his stack-induced-AC when the game was over.

Little do you know. We offered a level 4 coach a 3 year deal; which included kicking as a part of the brief. He could make a footy talk....drawing, fading...you name it. He thought long and hard, but ended up saying no. While Lewy is our 2nd choice, I welcome it. Should have happened years ago. Is he our discipline coach too? pTGR

On the contrary. This appointment is 2 years overdue.

History repeats? Journo is critical of the MFC. MFC supporters and the club go ape-droppings, shoot the messenger, and basically ridicule the journo. MFC invariably fail and end up a laughing stock. Journo invariably proven correct...again. 20 Goto 10

These guys have got to be given a licence to let their hair down FFS. The thing that surprises me though, if you are pro footballer, on 200-600k per year, surely you can afford something better than dominos pizza and the worst drink on earth.

Said it for 20+ years. Training and injury management is about getting the basics right first. In the last 3 years we have been so far from basics it aint funny. Why worry about the 1 percenters, when you are going negative 40% by putting May, Joel Smith, Viney back on the park with clear sodt tissue injury in a dead rubber or a game-over situation.

What about the neural adhesions? Can you add that in your prayer too? If not we will probably retrain him to walk and run backwards, with Babo's help. Then we might get him over the line.

I see what your saying, and am not disagreeing at all. Our predicament (building a slow list) has forced us to look where others fear to tread; and we have no choice but to gamble. What I would add is that there are many 'finger-pointers' with good reputations that I think don't necessarily add to culture either. Lewis, and Melksham were serial offenders. Clarry's go at Fritsch may have been isolated, but he learnt from the best. Roos' no-DH policy might have won him a flag at Sydney, but it might of cost Melbourne Toby Green for a "packet of chips". Culture just isn't about getting guys in that are good solid citizens. Did Lewis really buy into the red and blue? I doubt it. It was Hawthorn, Roughy, Buddy, daylight, then Melbourne. With Melky, it is Melky, Melky, Melky, daylight, then Melbourne. With Frost, I saw a guy bleed for the jumper. Just reading it from afar; but that is my perception.

So tell me which other club, professional or amateur, allowed players with diagnosed soft tissue pathology to return on the field, when the game was either a dead rubber or over. Joel Smith...May...Viney Elliott has the dicky hammys over a long period. Same with Ben Reid. Elliott went to Germany 12 months ago, and little wonder he didn’t come here. It is not the high tech placebo stuff that I prefer with Collingwood; it is the basics that we didn’t get right; starting with Viney’s foot years ago. Like a bricklayer who can’t even get the mortar right.

Agree with Cornes 98%, who like Lloyd, sticks his head out and takes no prisoners. I am for Harmes 5 year deal though. Come 2024, this will be viewed as a bargain. About to become elite, and Bucky will eat his words. As for head scratching decisions about players brought in at a cost, and some players let go, and the sub-par performance in relation to our soft-tissue management....no wonder we are 17th in the comp.

We were more of a chance in the PF 2018 to be honest. That forward line looks incapable of putting any defensive pressure. Slow and reactive. If we don't mark the pill, the oppo defenders will waltz out. Not many here talk about Jetta now as a liability since the league cracked down on defensive grappling. Check his free kick against in relation to one-on-one contests involved in during his last 5-7 games. Frostless, where is the rebound run? Harmes is decent in the air, and might add to the back half. Our first 2-3 games dictate the season next year. Simple as that.

Great signing.

Didn't Howe want 50k more to stay? We ended up paying 350k more for Lever.

Many on here said the same thing about Howe, then we go and pay the world for an inferior replacement in Lever.

Frost stopped a fast-play I50 for a certain score. The turnover resulted in a slow-play I50 whereby a decent defence would be semi-ready. You lot lap this up, but the reality is you are psuedo-clapping the Melbourne footballer with inferior speed/workrate to actually get a to a Petruccelle contest. We have heaps of them. So I guess the psuedo clapping is on in earnest. Clarkson and Hawthorn will have clear instructions for him and a superior work-rate up the field. I would also add that the get-out dump kick, could be better secured with aerialists in Sicily, O'Brien and co. Frost will smash it at Hawthorn. Clarkson has got a beauty for next to nothing. When 'all is said and done' and Frost proves his worth, and the stupidity of the decision, the sycophants will yell "move on, that was history". Jordan Lewis targetting for me was the snowflake of a decision that started an avalanche. Most here have blind faith in our decision-makers and medical staff. I don't, not for a minute.

This year's pick 8 might be a top 4 pick next year. The only speed we have brought in, assuming Bennell comes in, is really just a bit of a gamble. Frost out, and gamble in.... I can't see how our outside speed is going to be transformed as a result....unless pick 3 and 8 are jets that are ready to go....which I doubt. Plain miserable I must be. As for the others, hey, we are MFC supporters. We over-celebrate/congratulate mediocrity; dismiss/excuse failure; reflect on brief success as halcyon days.....

1. Strong Bennell > Murray consideration. 2. You say yourself that one more average year = essentially goodbye. Surely you can do your own maths.

No wonder Goody is going all in on Bennell and Murray. We have negligently overlooked speed and outside run for years; and the penny finally dropped for the so-called brains trust. Now the over-reach and massive gambling.

Crows 2020 does not equal tough game surely. Frosty's mob? That's another matter entirely.

He's good the sundance kid. Not only does he have a potential customer-base of 18 in the AFL, now he has suddenly got another 18 internationally. Defensive and boring is great; but lack of speed kills I say; particularly when the AFL have been driven to speed up the game in the past 7-8 years with additional rules and stricter interpretations. Sydney 2005 would get smashed in the current environment, yet his mentality is just the same. Sydney got away with lack-of-speed because they could create stoppage after stoppage. The game has changed. No wonder Malthouse and Lyon couldn't sustain it and/or had to re-invent. He did well Roosy, and I enjoyed the veil of positivity he brought. Don't know if he has ever been accountable for the Kelly for Salem/Tyson trade and allowing leadership (Howe and Dunn) to walk out. The other thing is that 'what he created' needs to be sustainable. Either it was the current lot stuffed it up; or what he created wasn't.

You probably said the same when a few posters thought that the Neeld appointments was a mistake.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=land+down+under+video This guy in the music clip is Dangerfield with a blonde wig. 1.10 to 1.17. The handball gives it away.

I hear you sister. What team trades their fastest speedster? You'd think it would be a quickish team with several line breakers. That ain't us. A putrid decision by a panicked FD that have one hail mary at their disposal.

You can only hope.

He is a good get. Read Brukner and Khan when you get a chance. It makes more sense than the current diatribe (pilates, core-glute strengthening, non-specific back pain bulltish). The handling of many players, from Viney's foot to Joel Smith's soft-tissues has been overtly appalling. Sending players (May, Smith, Viney Shoulder) back on the park with soft-tissue injuries in games that have been decided or don't matter, defies logic. In fact it is laughable. For a so-called professional outfit, it was easy to see the amateur hour that reigned.