Ted Lasso

Just a rumour, it started because he's selling his house up there and naturally people thought maybe that's because he wanted to move back to VIC, which he has since cleared up however Sydney won't have cap room to offer him the sort of money he's worth, he's got a good connection with Roosy and Sydney may be tempted by a high pick rather than losing him as a free agent if they can't match the offers so it's worth making an offer i think.

it's pretty black and white, they rejected ASADA's evidence but.. they have multiple player statements saying they saw bottles labeled thymosin, or had officials say they were getting thymosin, the tribunal ruled out thymomodulin, so it was TB4 or something else totally, all other types of thymosin are banned. to me that's comfortable satisfaction right there.

Would be hesitant because of the drug stuff but Jake Carlisle is a quality player and out of contract at the end of the year

I'm so over this " think of the players " [censored]. they are accused of cheating.. until the Essendon football clubs prove me and i'm guessing most of the sporting community wrong, in the eyes of the public they are cheaters, that's a reality they are going to have to face.

I would have thought it could potentially be a dangerous ploy by Hird, i'm sure Robson would have some information WADA wouldn't mind getting their hands on

they aren't missing at all WYL, we know where they are, shredded and burned after the league CEO tipped the club off about the investigation

It's embarrassing but the toigs mate, should have seen the place after we beat them hahaha

if someone who has some knowledge of psychology has seen the AFL 360 segment, they can potentially confirm this as i have a very basic knowledge but i noticed a few mannerisms from James Hird that made me believe he was lying, the biggest one was when he said the players hadn't taken anything illegal

I work for an AFL footy club at the moment and this sort of thing is hilarious, would happen a couple of times a week i reckon, when someone starts a rumour that a bloke has done an injury or wants to leave or something and then you see them out on the track training or in the office and everyone just has a good laugh.

Don't get the sense wada would have any interest in doing anything other than destroying them bb Anyone heard from sanity prevails??

Funniest thing is had ASADA won the case, Essendon would have appealed, now they're acting like wada are out of line for doing the same thing

I can't believe James Hird accused ASADA of destroying evidence of the use of thymomodulin. This bloke seriously thinks he's the centre of the universe and everyone else is out to get him

Some good names in next years free agency pool to try the whole accept the trade now for better value than any compo pick trick

the fact that it is part of some premium deal deeply upsets me, one of the most poorly written articles i have read, he basically blames every other party involved in the situation for the WADA appeal, saying the appeal isn't about new evidence, more about the corruption and there is no way they could trust the AFL tribunal to make the decision

i have mates who follow the TAC cup really closely, and the general opinion was that Salem and Kelly were about neck in neck as the best mids they saw, they thought Freeman had some Dangerfield-like qualities but the other two were silky complete mids, pick 9 i think will prove to be a steal

Ash i am curious, i've never actually had an Essendon supporter who can mount an argument that actually makes me think maybe they have a point, i think alot of demonland and opposition supporters feel the same, it seems to be a lot of suggestions of a conspiracy or believing everything they read in articles what are your thoughts on appealing the joint investigations validity when show cause notices were offered? ( for me the club had said for a long period of time they wanted the truth to come out, answering the show cause notices was that opportunity and they seemed to be desperate to avoid that at all costs, have evidence thrown out on a technicality to avoid having to actually go that far into the process) A club that ran such a significant injections program seemingly having no records or no concrete understanding of what was injected ( to me this just makes them look guilty, there is no way they didn't know/had no records ) the way they have got the media painting WADA/ASADA as the big bad wolf and pushing the pro essendon agenda. i'm really curious to see if you have or have heard a well thought out argument from a bombers supporter

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/wada-appeal-why-would-world-anti-doping-authority-trust-anyone-involved-with-essendon-investigation-writes-mark-robinson/story-fnp04d70-1227351711986?utm_content=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=EditorialSF&utm_source=HeraldSun&utm_medium=Twitter

I know elements of ASADA's argument were based on the symptoms and results being consistent with TB4 and not with Thymomodulin, i think that in itself is a pretty powerful argument

That is hands down the most bias, ridiculous article i have read in a long time, " some people will argue that insufficient evidence does not mean it didn't happen, this is the argument of the desperate " no mark, that's just fact, ASADA not being able to prove they did it, does not mean for a second that they didn't, ASADA lost the battle but Essendon didn't win, hense the appeal.

I think the players association have a lot to answer for, regardless of the potential use of TB4 in my opinion they have a responsibility to know intimate details of an injection program on the scale of this one. In my opinion they should have been provided updates, detailed records and been kept very much in the loop so they could keep an eye out for the players they either, simply did not know about it, in which case they shouldn't now be slamming WADA for persuing the issue futher or they did know about it, and were given records vindicating the EFC, which clearly did not happen or ASADA would have them or they were flat out lied to by the EFC, they know that's the case and the AFL have told them to keep their mouths shut so players aren't suspended

A world authority determined to get this club should show the players association that maybe there is something pretty serious to this.

Being found innocent would imply Essendon proved they didn't take drugs, imo they have simply not been found guilty

Surely they can't have thought they had gotten away with it?

I wonder if young master Goodwin may feel the need to give evidence to secure his new coaching career if this turns bad?

few AFL officials might be in the firing line if it comes out under oath that anyone was tipped off or told to destroy/tamper with evidence as rumours would suggest.