Diamond_Jim

He becomes a Restricted free Agent at the and of 2019. Why would he not wait until then and maximise the bidding war. It's GWS who would benefit from trading at the end of 2018. We need a separate thread on free agency as the pros and cons not to mention the permutations are starting to do my head in. I assume that although clubs are precluded from talking to players there is no restriction on clubs talking to managers. Out of interest when is the player allowed to commit in principle or otherwise.

Nail on the head. Free Agency probably adds 20% to the amount a club will pay for a player as no need for a trade.

Hard to see anyone around that we would not have to trade for. Big decisions to be made

I posted a few days back that the North offer is longer at seven years and is worth almost $2M more. The only way he would come to Melbourne is on the hope that he would be able to make up the difference on his next contract. Not much hope.

Last year he was almost continuously pushed under the ball and lacked leading skills. This year his ability to stand his ground has improved and he has added relief rucking to his repertoire. Definitely improvement but remember the VFL skill level has probably been on the decrease and most of the other back up AFL affiliated clubs are not necessarily full of KPD's. So yes... he's worth a go... Would he have been selected int he absence of injury to Hogan...probably no.

Agree ... he has not shown much more than Sam but the difference is he was payed all last year. Tom Mac playing forward has really made it difficult for Sam. Not sure how it will play out in the 2019/2020 timeframe. Perhaps his relief ruck work will help him but he has to have another few strings to his bow. PS: I see in the Trade Hogan thread mention is made of playing Sam at CHB. A possibility. The jury is still very much out on whether it has worked for Moore.

Interesting point and I probably agree. Out of interest what do you think Moore and McCartin would command on the trade market. Not much more than the Weid perhaps a second round.

Why am I suffering flashbacks to the Juice ? Mind you his form at VFL level was pretty stunning before he got his call up.

I suspect Hogan is on around 600k but is likely to go to 800k next contract renewal if his 2019 form justifies it. Lynch arguable 1.2M. Worth doing the sums but I would want Brayshaw and Freo's first rounder for Hogan. Might work.

I'm not saying trade Hogan because of any problem with his form. In fact I think he has the ability to deliver us a premiership playing at CHF. What I am saying is that we may have a chance of covering Hogan with Weideman, Mc Donald etc while adding significantly to our list through the draft or by trade. Cannot think of another player on our list that we could cover for who has decent trade value. Time to get smart as a football club. We have a decent list and the club would be wanting if the analysis was not done.

why.... we need to talk about how we win a premiership so all things should be able to be discussed.

so would I but no one is going to offer it unless you want to take it over three years. BTW I would want two first rounders in the first 8 before I would think about it.

worth a discussion if you think we can cover his goal scoring ability with Weideman and improved mid field kicking. So what do we get in his place. Two first round picks ... I like the idea but we all know it's a lottery. We also save a lot of money that allows us to go after Gaff. Assuming you go for a trade or an ontrade of the two picks who do you trade for. I'm neutral but I would be disappointed if the list committee wasn't doing the SWOT analysis. You have to look at where we have trade currency and Hogan is where it's at.

$1.9 million on offer from North...okay one more year to earn it. Hard to ignore. Remember it's guaranteed irrespective of form and injury. The unknown is the next TV deal.The last two have delivered big pay rises all round. Hard to crystal ball the next one except that the internet rights may go for a lot more if Foxtel blinks.

An interesting segway from the alternative world of bananas: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/aug/02/evil-monkeys-will-itv2s-bananas-new-show-be-the-next-love-island A show about simians studying humans..... "This morbidly gormless trio are being teased and taunted for our amusement. And finally, it works as simple slapstick – seeing a blindfolded man having bananas thrown at his head by someone in a monkey outfit is just funny. "

You have an interesting take on the dynamics of the modern workplace MS but let's wait and see

It'll be covered by Freo as it's a workplace injury. Whether Freo goes after the Eagles could be interesting.. there would of course be insurers involved and it may well be the same insurer but even then due to reinsurers etc you might still see a case. At 100k though my guess is that it wouldn't really be worth pursuing. Going after Gaff would be highly unusual in a workplace environment.

Have a think guys and gals.... even if he hugs the Brayshaw family I think he will upon further reflection go to a non Brayshaw club just to save everyone the uncomfortable nature of being team mates. The old clean slate theory. North may get their star after all.

Interesting that it was at the low end of the penalty spectrum requested by the AFL. Cynicism prevents me from delving further

you should be on the tribunal MSF?

Trevor Nisbett Achievements: Football manager West Coast Eagles 1989-99; chief executive officer 1999-present; Service Award for 10 years’ service to West Coast 1999; Australian Sports Medal for service to Australian Football 2000; awarded inaugural AFL Graeme Samuel Scholarship 2003; life member West Coast Eagles Football Club 2004; West Coast Eagles board member 2002-present; AFL life member 2013 http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2014-08-09/trevor-nisbett

and did you expect anything else. Young Saad gets done for 18 months for an energy drink on match day that is completely legal the day before and the day after (rules are rules say the media) and yet we have the Bomber victims. Unfortunately it won't change while the media is itself an extension of the good guy footballer club.

Ah the smell of double standards in the morning : "In 2015, Nisbett said any amateur player who engaged in thuggery should be deregistered, coming after an incident in Perth amateur ranks where a player had his jaw broken. Nisbett said the Gaff case was different. "This is probably different circumstances ... because we have a process in place the AFL will deal with it," he said." https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/highest-grading-you-can-get-gaff-sent-straight-to-tribunal-20180806-p4zvua.html Almost Trumpesque ?

being down a player in soccer is an enormous loss as well but they manage for far lesser offences

It would be 18 v 17 on the field