Diamond_Jim

yeah that is when they are supposed to play that but their argument for VFL games was that they had to finish 20 plus minutes before to allow for warm up umpire inspections etc etc So if you allow for Auskick as well the curtain raiser would probably need to start before sunrise

think of the turf OD.. and of course they'd need to finish 30 minutes before the start of the senior game to allow for .... (not sure what)

you need an extra five minutes at a MFC game to find the food stall etc because they close most of them. You're right though it's certainly not stadium driven. Then again it's up to the stadium to provide an atmosphere that gets people there 30 minutes early so they can sell their bad food. Wait I have a solution.... let's ramp up security so everyone gets there early to avoid the long lines. Last year in Russia at the World Cup it needed about an hour before kick off to get through security comfortably. Standing in a long snaking airport like line with Colombian football fans blowing vuvuzelas in your ear can be off putting.

Never realised that the quarter and three quarter time breaks are only 6 minutes. Had always assumed they were ten. https://www.aflonline.com.au/afl-news/how-long-is-an-afl-game/

ok ... we're up

I usually go for a dab of garlic butter but I am very glad to see that all have steered way from the pepper or mushroom sauce which seems to thrive in Australian pubs as a way to cover up what is too often a bad steak. Sometimes I find the American steakhouses oversmoke their steaks by hanging them above the grill for a few days. Come out like a cross between ham and steak. Interesting but not classic flavour. probably would have gone for the bernaise. The other sounds a little spicy. But why not have them in a side dish and you can have both.

okay I'll play Pies v Tigers 2019 first round. Pies played a wonderful tactical game that beat Richmond who were at relative full strength. Cannot remember Goodwin trying anything different all season.

Interesting to consider historically why we have four quarters rather than two halves. European games including those peculiar to the UK such as rugby are two halves. American games however are in the main four quarters. The real problem as many have identified are the AFL rule changes themselves.. each is arguably good for the game blood rule, concussion stoppages, score reviews etc etc but cumulatively they add up. In reality it is however TV... they just lose too may viewers during half time. Bet you I am not alone into switching to a netflix or similar at half time and coming back 40 minutes later to see if the game is worth watching score wise.

well the multi colored seats at use at the Gabba and some other grounds are there to deliberately trick the TV cameras into thinking htere are people there so why not. The thoughts of a CGI roman gladiator like crowd could be a start.

obviously television driven... suspect the ratings show a lot of drop off at half time particularly on night games. Strange decision though ...........out of nowhere One thing is does emphasise is that we are a TV game... no way the stadiums or ground fans would have wanted this

just googled JB Pick 8 and one of the Wikipedia footnotes refers to a Herald Sun article saying MFC were interested (we took scully and Trengove at 1 and 2 and then Gysberts at 11).... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr Mind you most of the 2009 draft didn't turn out that flash. (We did get Maxy at pick 34 though) Originally from Maffra, Victoria, Butcher is a versatile key position prospect with great agility and pace for his size. Butcher is an excellent contested mark and has been noted for his "clean hands".[1] He was extremely impressive at the AFL Draft Camp with his speed (2.99 sec over 20 m) and repeat sprints (24.88 sec) being in the top 28 per cent of all players. He kicked 40 goals for the year for Gippsland Power and Vic Country in 16 games. He was a Vic Country Under 18 representative in both 2008 and 2009, including kicking three goals against Vic Metro in 2009.[2] Butcher is also an AIS-AFL Academy graduate. He was widely tipped to be the first key-position player to be selected in the 2009 draft.[3

The business mantra since around 1980 is that companies should not own real estate as they should stick to their core business. Of course most would have made more money by simply holding onto their real estate but you can see the argument. Is the argument any different for a football club... perhaps

So one year on I am happy with Kayo and even with the occasional non footy season use.. tennis, rugby T 20 etc. I see that Foxtel withdrew from bidding for the new rugby rights. A small crack but I can see a lot of the "fringe sports" being squeezed on their next re negotiation. Cannot see how Foxtel can make Kayo stand up revenue wise in the long term unless they see it simply as a revenue add on model to the Foxtel "box" product which of course uses sport as a loss leader. Let's assume there are 12 M households (10M dwellings at last census) and the take up rate is 50% which would be massive. That's 6M multiplied by $25 x 12 + annual revenue of $1.8 billion. That amount barely pays for the AFL and NRL. So who pays for the other sports not to mention the cost of running the service etc. Cannot see why any of the other big streaming services would take it up as the customer base just isn't there. Of course the unknown is advertising. Read somewhere that Google now controls over 50% of the ad buy so perhaps there is room for getting into that space.

Turns out that 1964 was not as important a year as we all may remember. Sure LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and they caught the Boston Strangler not to mention that Liz Taylor married Richard Burton but otherwise not much. Mind you the Beatles did hold the top five spots on the US charts. Did I ever tell you all how I almost met the Beatles??

Interesting seeing that the boomer generation were the first to live and die by branding... remember the looks you got if you didn't have an acceptable brand of jeans.

same here shows how good we all are at forgetting such a dismal decade Mind you anyone who really knew how many Dawes kicked to win the goal kicking has serious problems ?

aaaaah less money in the bank loss =cash out

Interesting to see that Liverpool's new training facility is costed at much the same as Hawthorn's. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/20/liverpool-hope-50m-kirkby-training-facility-will-inspire-academy-players "Liverpool are on course for next summer’s move to a new £50m training facility in Kirkby that manager Jürgen Klopp believes will inspire the club’s academy prospects in their pursuit of a first team place. "

Lot of truth in that... big failing at the MFC in 2018/19 is that no one really pressed their claim to dislodge Lewis or Jones for that matter. The flip side is that experience at VFL level is increasingly becoming irrelevant as an indicator that a player can make it at AFL level. As a one year contract I cannot see much downside.

Imagine if we stated that as our goal... the scary thing is we know they're not stupid goals for the hawks.

Timely article in today's Age on Hawthorn's new facility at Dingley "After recording another multi-million dollar profit Hawthorn say they are on track to build their elite training, administration and community centre in Dingley by the end of 2022, with close to $29 million already gained via fundraising to pay for the ambitious project. The Hawks have declared the next six months as being critical to realising their vision as they look to secure planning approval and further funding for the initiative which is budgeted to eventually cost the club $110 million. The club says the Kennedy Community Centre project will be transformative by establishing the premier sporting and community precinct in the south-east of Melbourne as they work towards realising their goal of winning 20 premierships by 2050 and two premierships within the next five years."

perhaps but why ? Of course the cop out is see 1 but why if so did we have 4. Interestingly 1964 was the year of the Dragon... which comes around again in 2024. Not sure it's that auspicious as the last year of the Dragon was 2012 and we finished 16th with only the newly admitted GWS and Suns beneath us.

with a "training" camp in New York https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-11-19/international-rules-is-back-ireland-series-locked-in-for-2020 I'm not against these hybrid games but I do question the way that the AFL reserves the market for it alone. Need to build up some base support via lower level leagues etc. The way that the AFLX concept was botched (it should have been grown in the schools like touch rugby and rugby sevens etc) gives little confidence. I hear that the AFL has cancelled the Inter League Cup (not sure what it is called) because clubs have not had the resources to travel. (Nice spin is my take.)

and of course Norm Smith and Jock McHale did it that way too. In those days it was them and the bootstrapper who probably doubled as the liniment rubber. Time and methodologies move on. Perhaps it's time we rethought our ways as well. As someone else posted it does seem that there are some posters (not you Nasher) that pot anyone who dares question our successful club.

As I said... analytics for example... working strategies for and against his team and various grounds. Not as though our gameplan is foolproof. Anyone can push a stopwatch.