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Not bad for a supposedly Pies supporting family. I've always been in Trac's corner and never thought he would leave us. Now I'm certain he won't.

It helps to have 'rusted on' sponsors who indulge a bit of (extra) nepotism. These days the AFL seems to turn a blind eye to such things.

That is what I meant as your post implied Kozzie to the eagles. Houston left the club in Vict open. Hmm, not sure why it changed thread - I noticed it also but decided to not argue with a computer 🙂 @Demonland could you move the Kozzie discussion back to the other thread please.

Because players get to club of choice. Not sure a small fwd, even as talented as Kozzie, is high on their shopping list just yet. Warner is their top priority this year. It is fair to say that since Bell left Freo seem more amicable traders. If Kozzie goes we will get full value. And given the draft pick landscape of the next few years our best chance of getting full value is 2025. btw that isn't proposing we trade him - just outlining the practicalities.

We need list spot for George but sadly atm it doesn't look likely for 2025.

It may be click bait but not sure we should dismiss this. A poster who is usually well informed (can't remember who) mentioned in a training thread that Goodwin was annoyed last year at a recruiter closely watching a particular player. That club got the player's trade request on a 7yr, multi million $ deal. I guessed his reference was to Kozzie. The club and his manager shut it down pretty quickly. But, I feel it is only a matter of time. If he helps win another flag he's done his job and I'd wish him well - but I wouldn't like it.

Ahh, now we know why @Demonstone gave up authorship of quizzes - he wants to claim the Gold Medal every time ... 😉 Maybe give him a quota of Gold Medals then no longer eligible ... 😁 Thanks for compiling the quiz, Roger M.

Fair enough. One of the rare times we see things a bit differently, kev.

That quote wasn't a media clickbait headline. It wasn't a throw away line by Goodwin at a press conf; he said it at the AGM which isn't a forum for flippancy. imv we need to accept it as correct.

Fans including dee's fans need to move on from using injuires to explain unsatisfactory results. Perhaps valid in 2019 and 2022. But in 2023 we kicked ourselves out of a Prelim and probably a flag. Yes, I know there were some injuries and other factors but we kicked 16.28 in two finals! The second semi was 9.17 with leaders having collective brain fades in the last minute and we lost by two points!!! A waste of a season imv. For 2024 injuries might've contributed to missing finals. But not 14th !!! To summarise our 2024, Goodwin: "... right now we aren't great at any phase of the game which means we haven't got an identity..." Believe him folks !! 14th wasn't injuries !! Anyway, lets move on to 2025 where I'm optimistic of making finals and going deep into Sept.

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A cry for 'Help' @Fanatique Demon ? Allow me to assist. See Blue comments: So realistically… Eleven teams are starting 2025 in front of us. Some have had a better draft result (eg Brisbane). Langford is a pretty good result. Some have players coming back from injury (eg Carlton, Collingwood). Petracca and Oliver say 'hi' Some recruited stars from other clubs (eg Collingwood). Houston? 👎 Some had great years but just fell short (eg GWS, Hawthorn). Give you GWS, Hawks, yeah but nah Some have young guns who are ahead of ours (eg Geelong) Ouch! Windsor, JvR. McVee, Kozzie etc ?? And of those below us… One has a gift-from-heaven 2025 draw (ie, the GC Suns). Our draw isn't too shabby! One failed to meet expectations in 2024 despite a good list, and can be expected to bounce back (ie, Adelaide). Ditto the Dees Hope that cheers you up a little! We have the players. If coaches bring and teach a more effective and versatile method we will be playing finals and imv go deep in Sept.

The comment from Goodwin should end the rationalising on DL that finishing 14th wasn't too bad because ....... fill in whatever excuse people want. The ladder doesn't lie. But that was last year. I am quite confident of top 4 this year and a smokey chance to take out the GF.

🤣 Thereby eliminating a significant part of the DL community 🙄🤷‍♀️ !!!

iirc Roos wouldn't select him for his carelessness delaying his debut game and (I think) Trac played at Casey. Discipline/standards/tough love? It was a bit of a lesson I suspect.