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They have played and won two of the double up games (GCS and Carlton). Even if we count Lions games as losses that leaves eight very winnable games giving them a total of 13 wins at EOS. They will most likely win a few others especially when their better players return and they are yet to play the Eagles. Agree they will be nudging top 4. As an side, I'm not fond of the Saints but they are far from my most disliked team. If we don't win the premiership I'm ok if they do.

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I had the same reaction. The metric system came in in 1966. Not sure where daisy has been for nearly 50 years...🤔 or he has an odd definition of 'woke'.

Rance's MO was a running leap with knees into the back of players - didn't he take Spencer out a few years ago? I don't think there is a 'safe' place for Max. He will be targetted anywhere and everywhere on the field and anywhere on his body; even by small players. The best we can do is to manage him from non-critical games in his later years.

Sydney's GF team was a relatively young side and are probably feeling the affects of a short off season. Add the injury list to that young side and it will be difficult to back up each week. So far Sydney is a replica of our 2018/2019 seasons. We had a young team in the 2018 prelim team, followed by short off season (only one week extra than Syd) followed by injuries in 2019 and we slid down the ladder. Geelong are a hardened team and even they started slowly.

Maybe they are allowed to do non-contact training after a week of rest.

OOC this year. If he leaves Port WCE would be the most likely. He is from WA and WCE tried to get him as part of the first Rioli deal but was in contract and Port wouldn't trade him.

Given the emergencies, I reckon Oliver is right to play. If he was doubtful, Harmes would be a better bet than Dunstan, as the most likely of the emergencies, to replace Oliver. I know Harmes wasn't named in the squad but neither was Schache. Today's Casey game should give a good indication as to who the sub will be.

Good to see Jordon in the 22. An interesting group to choose a new sub from: Laurie, Schache, Dunstan, D. Turner...

Geelong??😉

Unlikely, of the remaining 18 games they have only 6 against current bottom 7 sides. 2 * GCS 1 * GWS 1 * Rich 1 * Hawks 1 * WCE And they have already played Hawks and WCE; two of their double up teams. Other double ups: Ess, Saints, GCS. With the rise of Ess and Saints (to play them twice) what looked like an easyish draw now looks much more challenging.

Easier said than done. Our contract with MCC is for 9 Home MCG games. I believe Collingwood and Richmond have a higher number of Home games at the G. We get a 10th at the G to offset the loss of Alice for members. We get a couple of 'extras' at the G by playing 'Away' games vs other MCG tennants: 2 'extra' in 2023 If we bring Alice back home we lose the offset game. To play more games in Victoria would mean playing more at Marvel. By my reckoning the sum of these is why we play at the Cattery each year. To play those interstate games at the G means mediocre crowds at best. We aren't going to get more than one maybe two repeat games at the G against the big clubs. Very tricky for the club to balance all these. Anytime, anyone, anywhere!

And we got Jefferson.

And we have our 2024 first and second (altho there are some limitations to using both).

Round 6: Prelimanry 'What they are saying at Freo' Summed up by this post: So...umm...where is this "list" that is supposedly good enough? Seems like we need another draft or two to set us up in the long run. Whoops, we spent it on a jack of all trades: Competent in none. Oh but sure, we can trade forwards in from other clubs.....except we're not a destination and have to pay a premium tax as a non-destination club with no prime time slots and we have no [censored]ing capital to trade. And who the [censored] thought Pearce was a captain?!? He's struggling to hold his spot in the side. F.R.O. It's just an endless cycle of abuse. /rant Other Notable comments: Just imagine the melts when Melbourne walk away with our #3 draft pick. I stand by the Hogan trade ruined the rebuild. Thank christ. After a 6 year rebuild I was really worried we would play finals 2 seasons in a row. It’s ok we are the number one handball team in the league though. 🤯 …the players are ******* confused and doing whatever with no leadership Everything was going swimmingly until we named our new Captain and it's been ******* nothing but s**t ever since!!! You could realistically say every single player we brought in is worse than the 1 who left I'm going to enjoy the ride. Another dockery story to tell my grandkids. The time we got ahead of ourselves and gave away all our draft picks for a unicorn. Heading to Brissie next week, can’t wait ☹️ It’s confirmed. We’re just making up the numbers Bring back Chris conoly .. at least we used to kick multiple goals in a row. I cannot tell you how irrationally mad I am about giving away our first pick this year. Why the * did we sell Lobb, Logue, Acres, Meek and ultimately replace them with an overage midfielder and a second ruckman. How the hell does that work? Bell is gone. Dale Alcock is a crock and would gladly for him to go. Garlick. Meh. List management will always be the kypronite of this club. My Favourite: 4ft no neck Bell who stands there with no friends but his ego, you are cancer: OUT

Yes! At this stage bottom 4 appear to be: North, Eagles, Hawks and GCS. North and Eagles both traded down last year. GCS might have an Academy player in the top 5 so may want to ditch their first pick. GWS hold their own and Richmond's first pick. At this stage both look like being top 10 picks. GCS and GWS have shown willingness to be flexible in trading top picks, sometimes accepting 'unders'. Plenty of scope to package our available 3 first round and 3 second round picks. Too many machinations to guess how we might get to a player we want.

Every reason not to. Not the least of which is the wrath from fans and pile on from the media.

The train is coming into the station! The only team below Freo that is likely to rise above them is Richmond. The only team above them that is likely to fall below them is GWS. Result: pick 5, 6 or 7 for the Dees We need an elite midfielder which we have tried to get in the last two seasons. Plenty of currency to work with to climb further up the draft if need be.

Of course, we all do! But won't happen.

I'm not sure the number of interstate games is the major issue. The question is can mfc do the preparation and recovery better. In the past week: we caught the red eye back and flew out again a few days later for the Gather round Freo stayed in Adelaide before the Gather round Bulldogs went from Adelaide to Perth for last nights game Freo and Bulldogs effectively cut out an interstate trip. We chose to fly back and take the red eye. A lot to learn form those experiences. And it is our choice to invest in and play in Alice.

My mfcss says they will make us play it in Darwiin: longer flights, hotter more humid weather and longer recovery time.😬 For a full blown mfcss they will probably schedule it as a day game and give us a 6 day break afterwards. 🙄

It could be a red herring but in today's press conf Goodwin hinted that Brown might play on Monday night. He was lamenting the need to produce the squad 4-5 days prior to game time. Brown wasn't in the squad but given the time gap changes could be made, I guess. Do we have until tomorrow night to submit our final 22?

To rest Max out of only the North game would achieve little, imv However, 'managing' Max out of the North game makes sense if we 'manage' him out of the next one or two games vs GCS and/or Hawks as well. No disrespect shown - just sensible player management at his age and the physical battering he takes. There will be few opportunities to give him a 3 weeks break after that stretch of games. It is what Geelong did with Ottens and to some extent mothballed him ready for finals and won premierships with him. They did similar last year with Selwood and Dangerfield.

To my eye the Grundy incident was deliberate with intent to injure. But lets agree to disagree on that. imv Draper's run and jump on TMc was thuggish. I didn't say 'sinister'. It will be interesting to see how often his tactics result in injury.

Yes, I have. Eyes on the ball doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is doing. Peripheral vision. In the last few weeks two of Geelong's ruckman have been injured by counterparts kneeing them in the ribs while eyes were on the ball. Last year Cox had his eyes on the ball when he kneed Max in the back causing him a season long term injury. Cox didn't come close to marking the ball.