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Come on Martin. its concussion related. That issue seriously affects and can in some cases really ruin lives. Stkilda are no better with McCartin. We should never have picked him up thats the error ...not how many weeks his out for. Has to be delisted. I say put him on the long term injury list in time for the mid season draft...at least we get back an active player on our list.

I didn’t get to attend that many games last year but this was one of them. imo it was perhaps the best they played all year. They were just so tough and fast. It was reported After the game that a number of GWS players said we were the best side they’d played all year. We played two good finals after this but even so I don’t reckon we touched this place again as a team. And, as last week, we are missing no less than 10 players from that 22.

100% agree mr leg. The further I get from the gut wrenching disappointment of losing a critical game we should have won, the more I reflect on what an insanely good effort that was. And you can add to that list of difficulties that we were 3 rotations down for much of the last. Also agree about trac. You can see it written in his face. Personally I think he’s developing into a real weapon....but man, that kicking. Hopefully as u said he’s getting help. Failing that perhaps we play him further up the ground? I first started barracking in 71 when a young Greg Parke was really dominant in the air up fwd. He just took so many marks in the 20-30 metre range, and I remember down heartedly and busily notching many strokes in the behind column ....and wondering what could have been. He had that v same look that I see on tracks face.... like he knew he was going to miss b4 he kicked it. Parke ended up at the doggies, who played him at CHF instead of FF and he was way more effective there fr the team.

I saw enough on Friday night from a terribly undermanned side, playing back to back interstate , off a 6 day break , 3 rotations down in the last qtr, against the reigning premiers to still retain hope that 2019= 1987. The more I consider all those things the better I think it was. It was US who threw that game away ....even given ALL of the above. Plus crappy home biased umpiring! Beat GWS on the weekend and I’m Bk on the hopium fr 2019!

its fu@ked up isnt it. I think it really is a curse or just terrible luck or its conditioning and player management ....or a mix of all three. Knees and concussions you cant do anything about ( 3 in one frikn game points to the curse part) but I suspect we've fallen behind the comp again in terms of fitness and conditioning. Hogan looks like a different build , slimmer and more defined, than when he was with us.

As captain?

Either that or he gets really influenced by the crowd. A terrible few minutes fr him. Cost us the game.

He cops too much crap here imo. Truth is He’s excellent and terrrible both. Missed two sitters one from a set shot and another a snap from 5 metres under little pressure. He also dropped an uncontested mark 25 meters out... and so from the critical angle that’s three goals and we win the game. All costly and wasteful of the good work that got the ball to him. But he also kicked two, set up a couple more and imo is a constant threat around the ball. He’ll be super important fr us going forward just taking him a long time to really mature. I just about threw my glass at him thru the tv last night... but im still a fan.

I think u may be on the money BBP. I hope that jack isn’t made sole captain and that is a solution of kinds. If he’s always offset by someone else it could still work. It terms of his form, I agree with others he still warrants his place but it’s hard to watch him playing so far under what his potential used to be. May be as good as he gets now.

Pains me to say it but they kicked beautifully tonight the eagles. Looked so relaxed and powerful in their approaches. We look the opposite ie Tense and tentative. Tmac was a dead eye last year, it seems like he doesn’t trust himself now. The only player I feel genuine confidence in re shooting a set shot fr goal is Melksham.. and Jeffy ( But not in general play anymore) . Hopefully it’s coachable but seems like a very elusive skill at afl level for many. Maybe you just got it or u don’t.

To state the obvious, he’s a heart and soul player clearly playing injured. Whether those injuries are of the long term ,perhaps career long, foot or something else I don’t know. But whatever the cause his kicking has become a real liability. He gets neither penetration nor accuracy on his left anymore and let’s face it, he’s never really had a right. If he gets the ball in space the best he’s doing is sending it high to a 50/50. It almost nullifies how good he is on the inside. Also, when I see him giving interviews it’s like he gives nothing of his real self. Perhaps protecting himself and towing the party line steadfastly. When I watch him I do wonder, when Jones steps back eventually, if viney will be the type of leader that inspires . No one could ever question his commitment nor his guts , and I’m probably going to roasted fr saying this, but I’m starting to question his skill set as a future solo captain.

Best we’ve looked all year I reckon. Tmac is back!!! Umpires truly truly frikn atrocious.., like our goal kicking. ww need Jeffry and Brayshaw in the game.

One thing fr sure is we won’t let max get bullied off the ball this time. Expect fireworks if they try that.

If it changes to 4-6 then it’s the season.

Positives. liking the gradual return to form of Tmac, Trac, Frost and Hunt. Hannan, Oliver, Gawn and Salem really good as per normal. I thought we were physically hard at it the whole game. Won most stats and deserved the win. Should have won by a lot more than a point! Negatives. Critical fumbles, slipping over, missing easy shots on goal, ball bouncing off hands. Brayshaws loss of form, Garlett looking lost again, Viney all heart but v limited ability to impact by hand or foot. Not sure Keilty is ready ( sorry Drukn) Cant wait to get lever back into this team.

Epic! We’re a Loyal resilient lot aren’t we , albeit a bit weather beaten and angry. 50 k Is a big achievement. . Hoping this is just the start of big things on the field and off it. A flag, a new home base and up into the 60-70 k plus members. A win on the weekend would also keep a hint of hope for this season . if we can keep that window open , get players bk and start knocking over some big teams in then maybe 53-5 k this year?

I doubt it. It’s one the issues that has consistently plagued us and, imo, kept us at the bottom since we left the mcg. Why would “mr 70k” have any more luck dealing w the realities of our situation than previous others? The fact he went so public on Yarra park , when it actually was so tenuous has made me doubt his capacity. In these times, when players pick and choose their destinations it’s growing in importance by the day. I’m afraid it’s going to cripple us ( again) before too long if a solution isn’t found asap.

“Weideman is sore and we’re looking to give him a rest this week?” The way goody put it made me think that weids body is quite ready fr week in, week out AFL. Understandable, it takes more time fr some than others. And I like player management. But don’t put a 650k price in ur head when yr still on trainer wheels!

Excellent. I think he’s almost my fav player when he’s on. Brings so much to the team. I’d love u to ask him about how it was for him and what reasons were given for his fall out of the team last year. 2017 he was almost AA imo. Also about his back injury. It Kept him a long time on the sidelines when he first arrived at the club. Does it still trouble him?

Me too. Misso has made some really big blunders. Trengove and Viney the biggest ...but how big are they! Too many Players were not prepared fr the start of this season and, operations or no, he’s got a case to answer. Joel Smith is just further proof here. u don’t need a sports science degree to have seen Joel smith should never have come bk on. No wonder Shaun is [censored], it’s his sons career on the line here.

Is it the same feeling u get after buying a Tatts ticket?

Strange timing . before the game on live to air tonight, boak was interviewed and he’s doing the same or a v similar thing. Even Has a pool at his house he does it in, and all the commentators were praising him re his commitment to getting the max out of his body. Sounds like trac pushed it too far..but seems like the practice is wide spread.

Brilliant news. Thoroughly deserves his shot at it. And yes... let’s hope he bags a few, creates a good contest and helps us win the game!

Hawks: no change. Business as usual... little ups and downs... injured recruits become stars...top 4 aspirations as per normal. Ho hum. Dees: 6 changes! OUTS. Passion, semblance of game plan, healthy “stars” who get injured, capacity to score, morale, Hogan or watts as fall guy. INS: business as usual; Fumbles, loss of spark, players looking lost all over the ground, reliable losers, bottom 4 , omac or Petracca as fall guy.

Lol. Yep... and add in some xmas’ past . Schwartz, Charles, jakovich, Tingay. I would add tho that Salem’s batteries were def included.