deelusions from afar

It's too early for mine... it depends on what Max does. But if Max stays captain next season and Disco keeps us this form (I get the sense he is well liked and has natural leadership qualities) then he should definitely be in the frame.

The main criticism in the media about SG's sacking seems to be the timing. To me, the timing isn't that odd. They all seem to think we did it because we wanted to get ahead of Carlton. I think it's more about having enough time to properly go through the process to choose the coach well before players head away and the trade period commences?

While I agree, they're no 1 pick last year Jagger Smith (touted to be the no1 pick overall) has been injured all year and some of their kids eg Moir showed quite a bit against us!

GIven we don't have a first round draft pick and we look to have a father son and possible NGA... Jason Taylor might have less to do this time of year. Can we put him on the coaching selection panel? (only half joking)

Unless you actually know, I don't think you should be posting this type of thing

I don't know if that's right. Last year's draft was very strong and this year's is not only weak but further diluted with the large number of father sons and academy players. Yes it would be nice to have a first round pick this year... but I don't think we would get a better player than Lindsay? Despite an injury interrupted pre-season has played most games and been a solid contributor - good kick, calm under pressure, outside player that has shown ability and toughness to play inside in the future.

It was interesting to hear Josh Mahoney acknowledged by SG along with Peter Jackson and Todd Viney in setting the ground work for our premiership. Obviously have no idea but from what I do know, he seemed to not get enough recognition after we did win the flag. Would love to see what would have happened had Josh Mahoney got the CEO role rather than Pert.

Goody was loved by the players - so it's not a surprise. But that may have been part of the problem.

A decent summary. I know Whately and others in the media are trying to show the inconsistency in expectations in terms of whether this team can make finals. Yes Brad did say that... but I think because it was more polite to say than the truth. Goody has done incredibly well for Melbourne. But recent years has accumulated baggage - much of it is not his doing. But some of it is. His close connection to the players has been an asset but more recently has been his achilles heel as (it appears from the outside) he has been unable to ensure there is discipline and consistency in treatment of players. The primary reason Green gave was "we need a new voice". Goody might be right about the team being able to bounce back up... but with what has gone on the last 4 years, there needs to be a clean slate. How can we do that if he is still there. He's been unlucky in so many ways... but he's also had 9 years. I don't think anyone who follows / watches Melbourne closely would expect a different trajectory next year without significant change. I don't think (or at least hope) Green and the coaching selection panel are going to simply appoint who thinks we have a finals list - it sounds like from other reports they did not agree with Goody's assessment that we were a chance for the flag next year (At least if he was coaching). Surely it's about who has a sense of where the game is going, who gets the best out of people, knows how to maximise our strengths and knows how to fix our weaknesses. As much as most supporters hate it (as it was Goody's mantra) it's not so much about the result - its getting the process right (so the result looks after itself). I still think the untried coach is the best option. Ideally they can bring in their choice of people. I'd be wanting to know about the process and criteria that the pies and GWS used when selecting their coach.

I'd want to go for assistants that have been involved in teams that have performed above expectations with their list. I hate Geelong with a passion more than any other team... but they looked completely cooked in 2021. They went through a process of starting fresh and designing a game plan that suited the strengths they had. They had a couple of good kids but looked like they were going to fall off a cliff... when in fact they have evoled and now we look more likely to fall off a cliff. Obviously it's a lot to do with recruiting (and what they offer out of contract players etc) but it's more than that to stay up for so long.

How many recent examples are there of experienced coaches achieving the ultimate success? I'd rather go for an experienced assistant how has been involved with multiple successful teams. It also might mean we have more $$ to put towards a better coaching group.

I'm not saying we don't need change (clearly we do) - but I think so many of us think that change = better. In many cases it won't. Most of us have very little idea about who is responsible for what and because we're not happy with the output everyone's name gets thrown up. As an example, Selwyn Griffiths is our "high performance manager" which despite the title is really in charge of managing injuries and fitness. Early in the season we were struggling to win last quarters - perhaps we were not fit enough. Mid season that seemed to be less of an issue with many strong performances in last quarters. Does that mean its the fitness, or is it coaching, tactics, rotation management, or psychology? Who really knows? What I do know, is that we have actually had a pretty good season in terms of management of injuries. Is that because without playing finals, we had a longer pre-season and so players with niggles could rest more? Or is it because Selwyn and his team actually know what they're doing? I have no idea - but I would hate to see us weild the axe here to placate the angry members, sponsors etc and find a replacement that is similar to what essendon / carlton have had in recent times. Because the reality is, there's a pretty small pool of ppl that can actually do this type of job. Remember what it was like before we got Burgo?

All duck and no dinner?

I think it would be partly because we will struggle to attract talent that is in demand due to how we have gone the last few seasons on and off field. Secondly just because someone can't get a game in one side doesn't mean they can't be an asset in another. They're not superstars but Toby Bedford wasn't a regular when GWS picked him up from Melbourne (we wanted to keep him and were blindsided) and has become a much better player. Even Jordon at Sydney - they didn't win the flag but he was in their grand final team in a very deep midfield after being on the outer at Melbourne.

Agree 100% - there's not much to say right now. Decisions have to be made, but they can't be made without the new president / CEO in place and it would make us look like we're panicking off field in the same way we did on field in the last quarter (and particularly the last 8 seconds). So maybe it's better to say nothing? But then we have supporters / media saying we're hearing crickets from the president / the club and that obviously means they're ok with this result. It's a no win position for Brad and the board. At a minimum he's saying the performance is not up to scratch (duh) and setting the foundations for change. Whereas last year a trade of Oliver / Trac was off the table... it seems like those sorts of things won't be this time round. (Maybe Goody too... but who knows) We're all p!ssed off right now - but a knee [censored] reaction / statement will make us even less attractive for prospective players, coaches, other staff who WE NEED to attract to get better.