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Might have been better if we did.

Agree with you both on the winning thing, stuff the processes. The only KPI that really matters is the scoreboard, after Sydney lost most of the stats in last years GF they have tried to make more stats to prove out why they did win. Theory is often just an explanation of of what happened anyway. Tonight, yep agree with you on that one to...but going on the record of the last few years when the chips have been down I'm not sure they have it in them to turn things around anyway.

I was not happy when Cameron Schwab was brought back into the club. When he left last time the club was in a state of turmoil, we were fined and copped the loss of draft picks. Whether or not he was at fault, part at fault or no fault at all (just wrong place wrong time) I don't really know and don't want to debate it here now. But I do think that anyone involved at that time has a cloud hanging over them, enough to say thank you but no thanks. The position we are in today can in part be traced back to that time, the lost picks could have been the senior players we have been crying out for to help our younger recruits. Anyway...Cameron came back into the club and with Jim in time it looked like maybe things were heading in the right direction. Cameron had me convinced in his run of media interviews that in Dean Bailey we had the man to take us back to the top. He was asked if Bailey was just a teaching coach until we were positioned to get a real coach. Cam convinced us that Bailey was the real deal. At the end of 2010 I thought now we are on for next year, 2011 is the year we make a move on the 8 and then it's only up from there. We were ahead of Richmond and on a par with North but with a much more talented list, or so we were being told by the club and media experts. I was telling my Richmond mates they were bottoming out at the wrong time with the 2 new clubs coming into the competition and we were luckily on the way up, had our club and list sorted. Then came 2011, the pre season games didn't look promising but of course that was only preseason (another one of those excuses we trot out). Mixed results in the season proper, the WC debacle culminating in the Geelong disgrace. What had gone wrong, surely we should have been entrenched in the 8. Schwab gets sacked and reinstated, Bailey gets sacked, Jim's health is ailing and the club is in turmoil again. Jim was right, both had to go, there was a turf war going on in the club and the only way to end it was to get rid of both parties responsible for creating the turmoil involved. 2012, more turmoil at the club. You couldn't expect any less after what had taken place in 2011, 2013 seems to be going the same way. So...I don't care what anyone says but after what happened in 2011 I can't forgive CS for his part in it and I think I was right in my concern to bring him back into the club in the first place. Maybe he is just unfortunate but it seems to be too much of a coincidence that turmoil seems to follow him, it can't be that he is just plain unlucky. Schwab must go. As for the board the only thing I really have fault with is that they have expended his contract, it is an unbelievable decision to offer him an extension of 3 years when under his administration the club has failed on ground and had just copped a 500K fine from the AFL. It seems that in trying to show support for their man to the AFL they have cut off their combined noses. What do we do from here, I notice that someone has brought up the idea of AFL intervention and it is along the lines of something I floated last year. At a minimum we need to involve the AFL in the search for the right CEO and as part of this process to get a delayed payment plan on the fine, it will cost us to move on from here with him and probably anything we have offered CC as well. If performances on the ground don't improve then we would need to be working behind the scenes to get a priority pick at the end of this year and anyone tarred with the tanking brush will not have a hope in hell of being able to represent us in something so sensitive.

That just about covers it 'Macca'.

From what I've heard they are not very complimentary but who really knows the truth of it.

In the case of Cook I doubt it, he just didn't have a competitive bone in his body. Nice skills, good decision making when he had the ball but the mental toughness wasn't there.

If we have to have something it might as well be this.

Agree with you 'Return', I would rather see Taggert get a taste of AFL (has the size and skill to play the level, he's not a skinny kid) as soon as he gets a couple of good games under his belt. Casey two's is not the spot for that. Kent is another that will be better for an AFL run, another not a skinny kid.

Can only hope they are playing it safe after his injury interrupted season last year. The kid can play and has a seriously good kick on him, something a lot of his mates don't. So lets see how the year pans out.

Agree with most of what you say 'rpfc', but I think a lot of the heat is being felt on the Dawes trade. I sure hope it works out.

I hope that is right and would explain the selection I guess.

Don't like the look of that either mate.

Looks a short side if Strauss & Kent are holding down the CHF & CHB positions. Although at another look I guess Davis and Pederson can take the key roles, but still looks a bit unbalanced around the ground.

Not particularly funny mate, no matter how you try and dress it. There are many words and phrases that were in common usage that are no longer because of the offence they cause others, I would suggest this is one.

This may seem like a really clever thing to say, and you can bring out all the definitions you want mate and talk about it being an accepted turn of phrase but its not acceptable to me and in fact shouldn't be to any self respecting person, so you don't start this BS with me.

...and so you think the players would confide in Neil after they were screwed last time?

Happy to see you can spell your own name Brendan.

Good to see you can read Brendon. I would have thought it was his responsibility to be fronting the club through the whole tanking debacle and to explain how we could have been fined $500k. Any CEO worth his salt would have held a press conference at a bare minimum, it's not the President or Chairmans job. You are right, it is up to the coach to talk about match day issues, but it is up to the CEO to take care of any other issues effecting the club, particularly issues he had a role in.

The scoreboard is the final judge on performance in football and it doesn't look good, there is no more logical and deserved criticism than that.

You can't keep someone on just because of his payout. If he is not the right man for the job and the ultimate reckoner on this, wins & loses says he is not then it is better to move now than to keep flogging a dead horse. As far as debt goes we are already $500k back because of some inept performance on our behalf.

I thought he was pretty good to 'old dee', he could of hammered us but didn't. ...and unfortunately a lot of things he has been saying may well be on the mark.

The sentence before the one you highlighted Brendon.

Read.

Yes those incredibly stupid Soviet, Libyan and South African sheep have a lot to answer for resorting to people power.

No, he's not all to blame but he must carry a good portion of it being the head of the organisation. It is explained simply in the sentence explaining his limited duties.