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A bit bigger build already though, will be interested to see how he goes this year.

Yeah, I know. I was looking forward to the footy for once this season and now it looks like I'm going to be hanging out for the under 18's carnival then the draft/trade week again.

Goddard and McCartin for me and trade another pick. Pick up one of the rucks in WA from Freo or WC.

Freeman's not playing, Sheed was dropped, Dunstan's going ok and Salem will be better than all of them. He has grunt.

I think Dom is the find and will be an A grader, the steal of the draft is likely to be Hunt. A pick from out of nowhere but a lot to offer, will see in a few years.

Just repeating my post from a few days ago. With the news on Mitch we will need to target one of the key position players in this years draft. McCartin or maybe Goddard for me.

They will be very appealing to us, if we're in that position this year we take them. If we lose Frawley and I'm not convinced we will it will mean apart from Hogan we have no top class KPP's

Lets not go through this again...

Jaksch is not up to it from what I've seen, might eventually settle as a defender but not convinced. If Clark is up and running he will be the 3rd tall forward/ruck option or first ruck option. Dawes is looking more like the Shane Watson option to me.

If we do, we need to keep them for ourselves. We're not strong in the forward department at the moment. I like the look of McCartin, with Hogan it would be like having Carey and Plugger in the same forward line. A lot of defenders wouldn't be comfortable with these 2 running around.

We won't agree on this one 'Machsy', but I think he was an excellent kick, just didn't get enough of it. In one of the coaches reports last year it was said on a particularly windy day Taggert was the only one who handled the conditions by foot. He's gone and I hope for him it was the kick up ... that he needed. Good luck to the kid.

I've not doubt they played the biggest part but even the AFL were surprised at the emails, letters and calls received from members...as I said in some small part. Members vote with their feet 'Sat', they renew or don't, go to games or don't, support or don't. Very few go to AGM's and as you note most don't like to talk but they all have an opinion.

You are 100% correct but we have no influence over how the game is played, selection etc. yet all have an opinion which is why we use the forum. We also are a club and these lessons need to be understood by members if and when board elections come up, that's where we may have some influence. Pressure from members to the AFL helped in some small way to get them on board and bring Jackson in. We have continually made the same mistakes and it is a good thing if the members of the club understand or at least discuss them so we as members can at least vote with our feet. Nothing wrong with that. ...and as 'old dee' points out above, winning is what will heal the wounds or at least paint over them for a time.

He was an excellent kick, good decision maker and pretty good overhead. Biggest problem was his focus, he would drift in and out of the game too much. Injury in his first season didn't help things plus coming into the club during the last few years was not a bonus either. Playing in SA this year and I hope he works hard enough to get another crack at it down the track.

I know what he means but 193cm is hardly tall these days and you would expect him to be a good kick. This should not be the exception.

Very odd comment, at 193cm he is almost at midfield height these days and he better be an excellent kick if he wants a long term future in the game.

Neil Craig?

He hasn't shown that he can 'Adam' and it's hardly a wake up call when he is being shopped around by his manager for more cash.

Small forward are a waste of time, he's no good to us unless he can run through the middle. LeCras kicking has also bee off a bit this year 'stuie', but he is still streets ahead of Betts as a player. Much more flexibility.

I agree with this thought, a true small forward is worth jack... Apart from your back 3, pretty much everyone else is a mid these days. The Milne/Betts type small forward offers nothing.

What a great innings from Agar, I know it's not football but what a sporting moment for a 19yo (for anyone really). Well done kid you just might have turned the Ashes series on it's head. Let's hope so. ...wonder if he can play midfield.

Neither have been able to go through the midfiled and it's part reason why they are playing in the 2's. As I said to a Richmond mate, they will never win a flag with Nahas and King in the side, like their endevour but they are just not good enough. Do we need to select any more players who don't add real value.

Betts type - No, Milne type - No, Ballintyne type - Yes

Maybe, maybe not but I think we both agree that they need more than one trick. I would love someone like the 3 you mentioned with us and just noticed 'Nashers' post above on Watts, I think he does have the ability to crumb the ball forward as he's shown before. A 196cm small forward would create some problems, he has the speed, skill and awareness.

This is exactly what I'm getting at, the 3 you've mentioned plus Ballantine, Wingard and the like, that's what we need. It's the Carlton and St Kilda type we don't need...whether it's the player or the club development but players like Betts and Garlett, Saad, they don't give enough and when they are covered they don't have a plan b.