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This one is pretty even 'Pennant', if we take Brayshaw I think he will be a good player for us. Laverde interests me but I haven't seen enough to stick my neck out on him, McCartin has had a bit of an off year with injury and I could see him doing a Jack Darling.

You're only hoping, I thought they would too but it is looking more likely they will take Petracca or trade pick one to GWS who will take him.

I think that's true, I share a similar opinion to 'Machsy' on him so not going to slash my wrists if we miss. Laverde looks interesting but he worries me that he can run himself into trouble on the little I've seen of him. Murdoch tonight again brought this home to me, good pace, big kick but no football brain.

I'm not sure that he can go in the PSD, it might depend a lot on the settlement agreement with him and also the AFL's somewhat flexible rules.

I agree with this. I don't think Petracca is going to be make of break for us, there are a few pretty handy players in the projected top 10 or so.

If only it were that easy...

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Don't know where you get the idea that McCartin is a Pedersen clone, he's nothing like him.

That's why the trade proposition is probably not going to happen. The Dogs are in desperate need of a key forward, we have the keys to either Wright or maybe McCartin. We are not going to give that up for Hrovat, if they want, they have to trade and it would have to be Griffen, Stringer or McRae plus a pick...and they haven't got the balls to make that happen. They have nothing else of interest really, maybe Libba... Same with GWS as 'Pennant' has just said above, they will need to give up something really good if they are desperate for Petracca. The Saints have first shot at it but for us we would want one of their guns plus their first pick. How desperate are they? probably not that desperate but who knows. Collingwood? do they have what we want...maybe Beams or Sidebottom but I would want more. If they can manufacture something like a pick inside the top 8 as well. Can't see them putting their money where their mouths are. So where does this magical trade come from. Well the Tyson one was from left field so lets wait and see.

If they would trade Stringer I would do it in a heartbeat, would be a gun mid/forward for us.

The other side of this is apparently 'Patty Dangers' disposal wasn't so hot as a junior, and he hasn't turned out too badly. This is where the recruiters really earn their money.

Wouldn't be disappointed with Laverde.

Have to agree with you here, it will be a very interesting off season to see how we address some of this. As you say it's not a quick fix. We are coming from a long way back.

The jury is still out here 'steve', no runs on the board yet although the Tyson/Salem deal looks promising.

Could be the pick that everyone wonders why he went that late, then again he might not. Hope our recruiters are all over him.

They talk everyone up. Have you seen a comment that says a player is no good and not a chance to make it in AFL footy.

I actually hope we get McCartin unless we have something else up our sleeves i.e: Cameron, Reid or Mitch Clark. We have one potential decent KPP in Hogan.

From what I've seen of him he's not overly physical just big. Jesse is an angry young man on the field, McCartin is as well, they would put the fear up a few defences.

Laverde is one that really interests me 'Bob', the only downside is that he runs himself into trouble at times trying to do a bit too much. Gore as a 3rd round pick maybe with some picks we might get from trades. It seems he is not rated at all by the draft gurus but looked good to me.

Cheers, I reckon he's watched a bit more of it. Interesting he sees Petracca as no.1. I would be happy with McCartin.

Nothing is for sure, it's always a risk and how many under 18 games has Mike watched this year...

They tagged Tyson after the first Q, his impact on the game was greater and is why we were still in the game.

I think it was.

...and Tyson carved them up in the clearances early in the game. He will either win or come runner up in our B&F, I don't think we made a mistake here. Kelly really got going when the game was done and dusted.

Tyson has already turned the tide of games, I wouldn't be too worried about him. What is x factor, I would think it's someone like Jurrah, the ability to do the extraordinary. Kelly will be a very good footballer, so will Tyson, that's the least of our problems. Salem had serious health problems in pre season that gives him some let out plus he is a first year player, but he really does need to get involved in the game a lot more, can't argue that.