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Pretty sure he is going up the highway to Brisbane on a big payday.

His kicking is one of the things that worries me, he's sometimes way too casual and misses targets. Interesting you mention Watts, but I think Yarran is very outside and very much picks and chooses. As I say if we are making a play for pace I would rather us throw some cash at Motlop.

I'm not really a fan 'steve', I don't see him as a great player but he can be damaging. Not reliable enough for mine though. If we were going for pace and I think we do need to look at it then I would look at Motlop.

I think it's important that we pick up a couple of the best kids out of this draft and then look at trading in some bargain picks. It seems the drafts may well have less and less talent going forward with the best kids now starting to move to soccer . We need to build the list around Hogan, Brayshaw, Viney and co now and looking to be a top 4 team in 4 years. If we can get a good deal for Howe who looks like he has interest from GWS then I would take it. It would need to be for a player not much older than 22 so he fits our profile. It will depend how much they want him but I would be playing hard for someone like Tomlinson or even Coniglio with a trade of picks.

Tend to agree 'Moon', we need to get more quality across the board. I understand 'stuie's' point but think that White is progressing well at the moment. Probably a bit early to make a call on him and doesn't he get a 2 year contract as a rookie anyway?

As for Dangerfield... I really dislike his condescending attitude to the fans. I understand it is a profession for him but calling it a hobby for fans is a real put down, for true fans/supporters it is much more than a hobby and some times to our detriment. Happy that he won't be coming here.

We thought the same at Sydney with Buddy but it hasn't really happened. The Pies have lost Beams and have Swan in his later years so may make some sense to have a go at Danger. I think Pendles would have to be up on similar money though.

Winning games and moving up the ladder is the only way to show this 'Wunders'.

I thought he kept us in the game yesterday.

Coniglio would be the one for me...

He's been disappointing so far this year 'Yossarian', he had a good preseason and was set up to go. The only excuses I could give are maybe injury and that he is being targeted more by the oppo, but I think this was happening last year anyway. Roos seems to be on his back about taking first option so maybe his confidence is down a bit. I expect he will bounce back but would be concerned about the bandage that seems to be a regular companion on his knee. Evan though his production has been way down on last year I think he still gives us a lot more than most and at worst he takes some focus off Jones, the oppo have to put serious work into him.

I think Tyson is stronger in the contest than both Jones & Viney. The other 2 are more manic but Tyson can stand up a and release in the tackle better (when he decides) than the other 2, he is physically bigger and stronger. I think your list is pretty much on the money 'stuie' but I would add Tyson.

Despite the mental scars Garland stood up against Port. I hope we hold him.

He's done it before.

I think he had talent but always lacked in an area that would hold him back and it wasn't just attitude, he had no idea of what was going on around him. If the play unfolds in front of him he's a world beater, if it's not he's a waist of space. Reckon he will be lucky if he plays a game next year.

'Webber', I always thought the big issue Silvia had was his awareness and peripheral vision. He certainly had the basics of runnin', jumpin' and kickin' down pat, but the lack of these other traits always put him at a disadvantage and meant he would never be an 'A' grade AFL player. Being a good basketballer means Petracca should have the vision and awareness however I've seen nothing in his highlight package that really shows this. The only full game I've seen him in is the game against SA at Geelong and he showed that he was strong overhead and could use his strength to advantage. When he was contesting the stoppages though he was beaten by Gore who is very good in close. So...I hope our recruiting people make the right choice and have covered every angle. If we take Petracca I hope he isn't Silvia II.

I'm thinking it may be Lever... Petracca is not over the line yet by the way. Probably Ox's 90 something % but not a total lock.

Think about it P-man, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing on Petracca but everyone whose opinion is worth more than a pinch of muck rated Tom Scully as a number 1 pick and his kicking is pretty ordinary.

A great line that one, I just hope our recruiting team haven't gone about interviewing players under the same influence that Jock did.

Not playing anyone unless he has a good reason and they deserve their spot. Not sure what you're meaning here 'rpfc' but if they went head to head McCartin wouldn't be a play thing, that bit I can guarantee you.

Maybe apart from Hogan, he is better. Gawn is a ruck, Pedersen & Fitzpatrick depth. Now for one thing we might not even have McCartin and if we do I wouldn't be ruling a line through him just yet. I wouldn't be gifting games to Pedersen, Gawn or Fitzpatrick because they've been around a while. I am sick of gifting games to players who don't deserve it be they kids or experienced campaigners. That's right, he doesn't expect them to be saviours but he doesn't rule them out of developing at senior level either. Roos has been quoted as saying a lot of things and then it's 'Demonland' law that Roos does this or Roos does that. I judge him more on his actions. Roos does play first year players, first game in the AFL. It doesn't mean McCartin will or McCartin won't. If we go on 'Demonland' law we won't take McCartin and at least 3 of our picks will be used for senior players not kids.

Why do you say this, Roos actions don't necessarily show that to be right. JKH played the first game last year. If we take McCartin and he shows plenty in preseason then there is no reason he won't play first game.

Of course you can but the really good ones make an impact early in their careers. Brown, Brereton, Lockett for example made an impact early. The good thing about Hogan and McCartin is they are hard at it competitors (mongrels), a thing they share in common with the above players. I reckon it's these types that make it early. Jeremy Cameron is another that made an early impact but I wouldn't put him in the mongrel category although he is no shrinking violet when it comes to standing his ground.

I would think more if we pick him up. McCartin is already better in the air and his leading patterns are better than Dawes. Dawes has a mature AFL body but it does seem to let him down a bit.

...but he was playing better footy without injury last year against the older kids 'Bob' so I don't think it will be a problem for him.