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For those not so enamoured with getting Lever...think Josh Gibson, who would have guessed he would be the player he became. Yet this guy is a no brainer, at worst he's going to be a very good player. We're cherry picking to build a team people. We either sit on our hands or do something proactive. The football department have marked KPD as a weakness from last season, this hasn't changed. I like the approach, we need some class down back.

Yep, win win. We swap our VFL level player for their WAFL level player...

Is this a trick question 'Red'? I think it's pretty obvious who the 18 coaches would select, they like giving him (Oliver) votes and the other 17 coaches for some reason that seems to escape the AA selectors like to tag him. Obviously a waste of time for someone who doesn't do any damage with ball in hand. Maybe they should watch the games and not just go by the metres gained and handball stat sheet.

Will need pick 10 for Lever anyway 'steve'...

I also think he has a way to go 'Diamond' but to say he is not damaging enough is not correct if you take in the view of the coaches. He's the only player we have that is consistently tagged and I've heard the Richmond FD in particular say that their defensive planning revolved around stopping Oliver. Stop Oliver and we are in some trouble, Collingwood worked him over and it worked early on but he got out and with Trac was responsible for our comeback...they couldn't do it on their own. This is also backed up by how he has poled in the Coaches award. My own view to back this up is that when he gets his kicking & outside game together, and he is a very good kick, he will go to the elite level. He's already there with his inside and handball game, there is no doubt in my mind that he's now the most damaging player with hands in the competition.

Ah yes I forgot the plural... Kornes Family - a tribe of irrelevant F...Wit's

Kane Kornes - definition; Irrelevant F....Wit

It's not about the match ups 'Fat Tony', it's about the skill level. We can't afford the 3 with kicking/decision making deficiencies along with Hunt in the same backline.

Failed forward/ruck...doesn't have the football smarts to play anywhere else but as a defender. An athlete, not footballer.

I think we're better off putting our work into getting him as a free agent in a couple of years (if we don't already have someone else in our sights)...he is likely to sign a 2 year deal with GWS.

I think Smith & Laird would could be considered as take the game on defenders. Happy for them to take Frost if they want him as part of the Lever deal. We definitely need to add class to our back 6...Lever with Hibberd balances out the team nicely.

Frost is depth, he would only be a big loss if we were competing in the footy olympics. He's never going to tidy his disposal at AFL level because it's his decision making that's the problem and it's hard to fix. If he's a part of getting Lever over the line then it's a no brainer...

Totally different players...same type of build that is all. Track has amazing awareness (peripheral vision), Col had none and that's what really held him back.

Maybe Littlefinger will be done in next episode and Arya will use his face to find out who he's been scheming with... Somethings brewing back in the North so that's my take.

He's also made a few mistakes tonight... Would love him with Oscar and Tom down back though. One of the missing pieces.

Can't wait for Arya v The Mountain...I think we got a taste with the sparring recently. Then maybe she will finish her list with Cersie

@Macca, just noticed that Chuck Loeb passed away recently... A bit of a shock really, was looking for something else and a piece in memory came up...

Yes, he would be more than handy. Understatement... I can't see Frost being in the future plans apart from being a depth player or maybe trade value. O-Mac does have some upside though.

According to the logic of some on here it should have been Selwood or Hawkins...

He polled 2 votes in his first AFL game...I think they see him and he gets votes.

Just a habit from when I started on the site 'Skuit'... Not all in the world in sinister or evil and I know many look for hidden meaning. Real name, unreal name or somewhere in between. In this case just accept it for what it is. My little foible,

A classic case of being an athlete, not a footballer.

800k will be about right for a quality KPD like Lever. He will stay or go, but money won't be the driver. It will be part of the story. If he goes I would think we are in a good position, he knows we wanted him at draft time and he knows we have a future. Interesting at draft time there was also talk of Lever being a tall mid...he did a bit of work with his TAC cup team working with the mids to round out his game as he missed the year with a knee. Also his kicking was supposed to be his weakness. Seems to have fixed that.

800k will be about right for a quality KPD like Lever. He will stay or go, but money won't be the driver. It will be part of the story. If he goes I would think we are in a good position, he knows we wanted him at draft time and he knows we have a future.

...a bit like Buddy.