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99.9% sure its 100 games. Perhaps there are also exceptions for Captains and which may see Trengove with his name on the locker. From what I've read here it sounds like these are the following numbers. Jackson 6 Langdon 15 Tomlinson 20? Rivers 24 Picket 36 Is that accurate?

Was hoping for him or Sharp to fall through to us so pretty happy with this pick. Hopefully we can bring Sharp across in the future, would sit nicely on a wing for us.

I think it was Fifty-5 had a theory that Pick 8 may have been acquired from North with the intention of using it on Jackson. Could you ask if this was the case and we then subsequently had to use pick 3 on him as we became aware of other clubs interests and that he wouldn't make it to 8? Another question of interest for me is, if he likes certain players that we miss out on in a particularly draft, how much dialogue is kept with said player or manager in the hopes of planting seeds for a trade further down the track? I suspect this goes on a bit with an example possibly being Langdon who we were reportedly keen on in his draft year.

We can trade one of our future 4th picks as we have two of those. We currently have 74 which may come into about 67 post Hawthorn and Port matching bids. I doubt we can make anything meaningful out of those picks though.

Hey @Pennant St Dee, what are your thoughts on both Sharp and Rivers? Both seem like great prospects and fill a need nicely for us in my opinion. Sharp I've heard is great outside runner with neat skills, Rivers gets good wraps as a solid all-rounder but mainly in defence. I could see him fitting in as a long-term replacement for Hibberd or Nev. Do you have a favourite or any other insights into these guys?

And by moving from pick 8 to 10, if the phantom drafts are to be believed, we have essentially said thanks but no thanks to Young, Serong and Stephens. Interesting though that multiple phantom drafts have Robertson and Kemp sliding out to 15+. Perhaps if we do another split we could see one of those brought in with Pickett if we are confident he gets past Port, Hawthorn & the Doggies. Unlikely perhaps, but no one a week ago had Pickett at 10 and Day at 12. There are still so many variables to play out.

No idea. Your guess is as good as mine.

Twomey just mentioned Melbourne still potentially looking at a further split and, while nothing certain, suggested a deal could be 10 and 28 for Ports 12 and 18. Sounded more like we were canvassing our options and a deal probably unlikely at this stage.

Jackson Pickett (think it's too early but hard to ignore the smoke) Sharp (I think he will go earlier but will fit our outside run well if still on the board) My ideal scenario would be Green Stephens Rivers (or best available small forward)

It would be fitting for any player to start their career here with a 4-6 injury. If that's accurate its probably better than I was expecting.

It does in a sense, from 2pm today Twomey, Beveridge and Cleary will be doing a live stream panel discussion including interviews with draftee prospects and club officials. Here's the line up if anyone is interested in watching. Tuesday's line-up: 2.20pm - Sam Walsh (Carlton) 2.45pm - Hamish Ogilvie (Adelaide) 3.10pm - Adrian Caruso (Greater Western Sydney) 3.30pm - Cody Weightman 4pm - Kinnear Beatson (Sydney) 4.15pm - Caleb Serong and Sam Flanders 4.30pm - Stuart Dew (Gold Coast)

Interesting that he thinks a bid for Green won't come until our second pick. Edit: No Sharp in the top 30 and states Rivers is a chance to slide to our pick. Would be very happy with either of those two.

Yes that's fair.

I'll preface this by saying i'm no draft watcher/expert. Perhaps Pickett will prove to be an inspired pick, but I just can't get excited about using a top 10 pick on a small forward who averaged 7 touches/games and a goal every two games at senior SANFL level, and only 2 goals in three games at the national champs. Richmond, sans Rioli, found most of their small pressure forwards either late in the draft or in the rookie draft, and there are plenty of options in this draft for small forwards that will be their for pick 28. If Pickett slides then sure, happy to take a punt. But rolling our future first, 26 and 50 to = Pickett and whoever is left over at 28 (30-32) just doesn't feel right. It's also interesting that aside from GC with picks 1 and 2, we seem to be the only other club that is being reported as "locked in" with our picks several days out from the draft. Something doesn't smell right. Are we playing games? Are other clubs feeding false information trying to make us "reach" for a player early? Perhaps reporters are just putting 2 + 2 together and coming up with 5... Taking Pickett will most likely mean saying no to one of Serong, Kemp, Stephens, Young. I'll wait to see how the draft unfolds but I hope we know what we're doing as it feels we are prioritising needs over best available.

Pick 10 will most likely end up as pick 12 on draft night after academy bids. Likewise 28 will push out to at least 30, possibly 31 or 32 depending on bids on Maginness and Mead. A theoretical trade with Geelong will see 12 and 30 become 16 and 19 (possibly 20 for Maginness). 12, 30-32 vs 16, 19-20 Not sure which one I like best to be honest.

Bergman?

Would be pretty happy with Stephens. Knightmares latest update on his thread on Bigfooty suggests that Carlton are pretty keen on Weightman at 9. The 1st round in this draft is more fluid than any other i can remember. One of Kemp, Stephens, Young, Serong could possibly get through to our pick it seems.

That's my gut instinct as well, glad I'm not deciding and get to watch on with interest on draft night.

My only concern is that if we decide to not bid on Green and a bid for Henry doesn't come in before 7, then the top 10 is diluted with GWS and Freo getting to pick an extra two players before our pick comes around. I'm sure the club has factored this into their equation and have some certainty of what players will be available at "10". That being said its; 3, 8 and 97 or 3, 10, 28. We have improved our position significantly. Another way to look at it is we started our draft position with 3, 22, 40. That has since moved to 3, 10, 28, + Langdon. While we've lost Frost, and a Future first plus later picks we were never going to use at the draft. Essentially a 6 spot downgrade for Langdon, then a future 1st and 40 for pick 10. We only plan to use 3 picks this draft so we've done ok to improve our position.

I'm going to have a stab at the 1st round, including possible pick swaps. This is highly uneducated and largely guess work with some help from reading various phantom drafts and tidbits about who clubs are looking at. Pick swapping adds a whole new dimension and difficulty to predicting how this will unfold. Some points that affect my phantom draft order Nil bid on Green by Melbourne at 3 allowing GWS to have a selection before he gets bid on. Melbourne trading pick 9 to port for Pick 13 and 19. Carlton Bidding on Henry at pick 10 Matt Rowell (GC) Noah Anderson (GC) Luke Jackson (MELB) Lachie Ash (GWS) Tom Green (GWS - matching Sydney bid) Hayden Young (SYD) Fischer McAsey (ADE) Sam Flanders (FRE) Dylan Stephens (PORT) Liam Henry (FRE - matching Carlton bid) Caleb Serong (CAR) Deven Robertson (HAW) Brodie Kemp (MELB) Miles Bergam (WB) Josh Worrell (GEEL) Trent Bianco (GC) Will Day (PORT) Jay Rantall (GEEL) Cody Weightman (MELB) Trent Rivers (RICH)

Fair enough re delisted free agency and Bennell (although Geelong were apparently red hot on him), but facts remain that if we have the view to rookie listing both Brown and Bennell then we need to leave two spots open. If we select someone in the rookie draft prior to them training with us, then we won't have the spot for both of them and it will come down to a 50/50 between those two. I can't see that happening but who knows. I think we'll leave two spots open personally, and if one doesn't work out then we have a carry over selection for the supplemental pick either at the start of next year or mid year draft.

Perhaps, but since they've forgone the National, Rookie and Pre-season draft to train with us I doubt that's the way we would operate. Not to say we've given them guarantees of a position on the list, but if they only had a 50/50 shot I'm sure they would rather take their chances at the draft to improve the likelihood of a 2nd/3rd chance somewhere else.

Leaving rookie spots open for Bennell and Brown confirms we''ll be taking a maximum of 3 picks to the draft to make a senior list of 38 players.

If MFC have their heart set on Jackson then we're not going risk him just to keep GWS honest. It sucks they may get two top 5 picks but we're not going to compromise or alter our draft approach just to upset them.

Interesting thought. Have a gentleman's agreement to not bid on Green to allow them to have two top 5 players on the proviso they trade us a player on the cheap next year. I like it, surely they have a surplus of mids if they take Green as well.