Jesse Christ

At this point in time he is just as likely as the rest by the sounds of it

A bit elaborate putting Lyon through all this just to be a smoke screen for MM LOL has Lyon agreed to be used in this manner? Far fetched, next! You are drawing long bows all round

Sycophant ;P

I'm not too sure what you're alluding to there.. Are you trying to say Malthouse is an M&M?

I'm wondering, if we have done a deal with Mick and are keeping it hush-hush, why would we still be chasing Lyon? I can't make any sense of it. Unless we want St.Kilda to pay more for Lyon. But what's the point of that? Then there is no confirmation with Lyon re-signing, just yet, and Mick insinuating that we could make finals next year "depending on the coach" (with a wry smile and a very cheeky grin and wink I have to add) So much up in the air! I just want answers, this whole season has just been one long wait!

Wow! I know Malthouse can be quite ambiguous when he speaks, but that raised my eye brows. If I didn't know any better I'd say Mick was definitely trying to intimate something is going on.. Then again it is Mick lol..

Jordie McKenzie, Jones, Trengove, Frawley, Rivers, Moloney, Jamar and Stef Martin earns a call up. They are the ones who put in more often than not- hence they deserve to be in the limelight. They are the ones I want to greet me to the Demonland experience!

Is it possible MM has already flagged his intentions to us? We might not have to wait until Collingwood are done and dusted, we may just have to appear to be. Malthouse just has to play the Sully card- ie come to an agreement with us, and then lie to all and sundry about it.

Its called a totalitarian regime. That is why the youtube clip portraying the fat Greek as Hitler is so apt.

Not happy about this. Junior should have been playing this year, for us. Obviously that didn't happen and nothing can be done about that. Now, after taking a year off he is pulling on the boots again- for what will be the most hated teams in the competitions history. Along side money hungry mercenaries, getting smashed, week in week out. GWS will ruin my fond memories of James. We can only blame ourselves though. That's probably the bit that hurts the most

Both. It depends on where the graffiti is, and the context. A simple tag or scribble is definitely vandalism, but some of the graffiti around Melbourne and LA and the rest of the world are works of art. Dynamic and inspiring. And graffiti is a part of Melbourne culture. It brings otherwise gritty and dull lane ways and empty spaces to life.

Jeezus!

I've been looking and I can't find it, but I bet they're out there and we should try to find one. Either way I'm not industrious enough to keep my argument going. Just kind of over chasing extreme youth most of the time. We will get smashed in a final IF we make the 8 next year

I don't know how to find the OOC players, I am looking on the net. I'll get back to you.

Yeah but the problem is if you don't pay your top players top coin someone else will. And I'm sure many clubs have 3rd party deals going to keep the lower paid stars happy too. Perhaps the players on the lower pay checks deserve them because they are [censored]. Once your out on the field you play to the best of your abilities- becuase it doesn't matter what pay grade you're on- if you don't, you won't have to worry what the stars are on anymore- you'll be getting $540 a fortnight from centrelink.

LOL! I don't know how I missed that before- but these pretty MFC lips won't be going anywhere near GWS' disco stick!

From my understanding we will have to use our first round pick on him- then we will get the next pick (first round compo) and mid round pic (first pick after bottom 9 pick) correct?

We've already lost 2 years (I know it's only 31 games) without any delists, and Sully represented on field leadership beyond his years. We'll know for sure after we announce our delists. I know most of our delists won't exactly be regulars in the starting 22, but at the end of the day it's still out with the old, in with the young.

Hypothetical- we draft another 17 year old, and in a few years time when he blossoms into a star, someone takes him from us. Now that's another couple of years of development with limited output down the gurgler. I know it's unfair painting everyone with the Sully brush, I just don't see how getting a ready made gun is any worse than taking a kid who may/may not be a star, and is basically unproven. As it is we are one of the youngest lists already. I think some of you guys place too much emphasis on youth. It's not the be all and end all.

They have to trade these 17 year olds. Being a winning bidder would ensure that we gave them one of the best deals. thus giving them a "leg up" It may seem petty- but I believe this could be the first step in getting tougher; you shaft us and you're on your own!

I really don't think I want to draft another 17 year old in this point in time. How long can we keep losing experience and topping up with juniors? I'd look for a club that is DESPERATE for one of these babies (maybe they're in rebuild stage) and ask for their best deal on a star that they might be able to cover from excess stock. He would be between 24-26 years old. Im not too sure who this star could be, but we have enough carrots to dangle now. No more 17 year olds, and no GWS deals.

It's the principle of it. No trades with the GWS. There are 16 other clubs out there, we can do a deal with them. Hell I'd rather do a trade with GC. O'meara Oshmeara... one 17 year old. We need much more than that anyway. Mate!

NO TRADES WITH GWS! We don't negotiate with these bastards. EVER. It's us Vs them from now on. I don't care if we can't land one of these 17 year olds, and I don't want to be taking kids all the time- so some new club in the future can rip them out from under our noses too? Please! We trade with others as GWS have already drawn the battle lines. I don't want to give them a priority pick that will give them an even better position next year.

That was brilliant. True words- well apart from the tanking. We didn't tank, we tried different positions etc etc, ask the fat Greek boy about that one. I know it's not his fault, but he really did use us as his cum rag, didn't he?!